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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnetic View Post
    they are both almost identical
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    It is Limited to almost none.The are not big diffrences.
    What is it with you lot and semantics got damn...almost, limited, but the difference is there is it not. The Natufian signal in Wezmeh is absent in Ganj Dareh. You admit there being a minor signal indicating a difference [last time I checked this means they differ ] I didn't ask to what degree they differ but shit whatever gets you off in quarantine. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaYamamoto View Post
    What is it with you lot and semantics got damn...almost, limited, but the difference is there is it not. The Natufian signal in Wezmeh is absent in Ganj Dareh. You admit there being a minor signal indicating a difference [last time I checked this means they differ ] I didn't ask to what degree they differ but shit whatever gets you off in quarantine. Lol.
    Wezmeh is 95% Ganj Dareh like
    A 5% makes it different xD
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    Well done. Lol.
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    they are almost identical
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    Doesn't Iran_N also have some East Asian-like admixture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max_H View Post
    Doesn't Iran_N also have some East Asian-like admixture?
    Iran N seems to be 50% ANE and 50% Dzudzuana like.Some people have mention a more basal eurasian admixture compared to CHG witch seems to be less ANE admixed and more Dzudzuana like..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    Iran N seems to be 50% ANE and 50% Dzudzuana like.Some people have mention a more basal eurasian admixture compared to CHG witch seems to be less ANE admixed and more Dzudzuana like..
    I just recalled Lazaridis' paper that modeled it with BE, Dzudzuana and ANE but also with a 10% Onge-like component and I've seen models here that also give it considerable ENA. I agree with you on CHG btw but I was wondering if anyone else had a model in mind about Iran_N.

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    Iran_N
    Primary component (represented by y-hg IJ) is like 'X' if... X + Ust_Ishim = Kostenki/Sunghir/Vestonice
    About 20% ANE
    Probably 20% or so excess East Eurasian, specifically like 'Y' if Y + Tianyuan = East Asians
    Maybe a little bit of Taforalt-like ancestry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    Iran_N
    Primary component (represented by y-hg IJ) is like 'X' if... X + Ust_Ishim = Kostenki/Sunghir/Vestonice
    About 20% ANE
    Probably 20% or so excess East Eurasian, specifically like 'Y' if Y + Tianyuan = East Asians
    Maybe a little bit of Taforalt-like ancestry.
    Shouldn't Iran_N be represented by Y-Hg J instead of the parent clade IJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    Iran_N
    Primary component (represented by y-hg IJ) is like 'X' if... X + Ust_Ishim = Kostenki/Sunghir/Vestonice
    About 20% ANE
    Probably 20% or so excess East Eurasian, specifically like 'Y' if Y + Tianyuan = East Asians
    Maybe a little bit of Taforalt-like ancestry.
    That is I recall from the AASI thread, just not sure about the Taforalt because Iran_N samples did not really have any haplogroups that one would associate with Taforalt. But more Basal or/and ANA than CHG.

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