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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    are you actually about 2/3 Scandinavian and 1/3 Spanish?
    I don’t have any known Iberian ancestry, although I suspect my French ancestry could have some of that in the mix (weirdly I never get French results, so I’m not sure). Typically I show up as ~ half Scandinavian, so that is also overestimated. Eurogenes does a better job at modeling me overall.

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    Mixed Mode:
    1 72,27% Greek_D + 27,73% Russian_D @ 0,370
    2 72,27% Greek_D + 27,73% Russian_B @ 0,537
    3 72,27% Hungarians + 27,73% Samaritians @ 0,698
    4 69,92% Greek_D + 30,08% Mixed_Slav_D @ 0,781
    5 74,61% Bulgarians_Y + 25,39% C_Italian_D @ 0,889
    6 51,95% Norwegian_D + 48,05% Cypriots @ 0,902
    7 69,14% Greek_D + 30,86% Ukranians_Y @ 0,922
    8 94,14% Bulgarians_Y + 5,86% Saudis @ 0,987
    9 88,67% Bulgarians_Y + 11,33% Morocco_Jews @ 1,004
    10 66,80% Aragon_1KG + 33,20% Chechens_Y @ 1,005
    
    Least-squares method.
    
    Using 1 populations approximation
    1 100% Bulgarian_D  @ 3,850
    2 100% Bulgarians_Y  @ 4,326
    3 100% O_Italian_D  @ 4,869
    4 100% Romanians  @ 5,476
    5 100% Tuscan  @ 6,921
    6 100% TSI30  @ 7,775
    7 100% N_Italian_D  @ 7,956
    8 100% North_Italian  @ 9,830
    9 100% C_Italian_D  @ 12,554
    10 100% Greek_D  @ 13,480
    
    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% Kent_1KG + 33% Sardinian + 33% Chechens_Y  @ 0,898
    2 33% Sardinian + 33% English_D + 33% Chechens_Y  @ 0,932
    3 33% Valencia_1KG + 33% Aragon_1KG + 33% Adygei  @ 0,980
    4 33% Aragon_1KG + 33% Aragon_1KG + 33% Chechens_Y  @ 1,000
    5 33% French_Basque + 33% Mixed_Slav_D + 33% Iraq_Jews  @ 1,005
    6 33% Valencia_1KG + 33% Valencia_1KG + 33% Adygei  @ 1,102
    7 33% Bulgarian_D + 33% Bulgarian_D + 33% Tuscan  @ 1,114
    8 33% Ukranians_Y + 33% French_Basque + 33% Iraq_Jews  @ 1,169
    9 33% Bulgarian_D + 33% Bulgarian_D + 33% TSI30  @ 1,183
    10 33% Pais_Vasco_1KG + 33% Ukranians_Y + 33% Iraq_Jews  @ 1,190
    
    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% Greek_D + 25% Greek_D + 25% Greek_D + 25% Russian_D  @ 0,890
    2 25% Greek_D + 25% Greek_D + 25% Greek_D + 25% Lithuanian_D  @ 0,975
    3 25% Bulgarian_D + 25% Bulgarian_D + 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% C_Italian_D  @ 1,221
    4 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Romanians + 25% Greek_D  @ 1,223
    5 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Greek_D  @ 1,228
    6 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% C_Italian_D  @ 1,288
    7 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Bulgarians_Y + 25% Romanians + 25% C_Italian_D  @ 1,302
    8 25% C_Italian_D + 25% C_Italian_D + 25% Greek_D + 25% Russian_D  @ 1,350
    9 25% Bulgarian_D + 25% Bulgarian_D + 25% O_Italian_D + 25% O_Italian_D  @ 1,355
    10 25% Sephardic_Jews + 25% Sephardic_Jews + 25% Mixed_Slav_D + 25% Mixed_Slav_D  @ 1,387
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    This model gives me a lot of Jewish groups for a secondary set. Something in my background gives this model fits trying to place a secondary group for the oracle, and the south Asian is puzzling to me. my mom is north German and Scottish, my dad is colonial American English and Italian.

     
    Population

    South_Asian 1.40 Pct
    West_Asian 13.08 Pct
    Siberian 0.19 Pct
    African -
    Southern 15.09 Pct
    Atlantic_Baltic 70.01 Pct
    East_Asian 0.22 Pct


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    #

    Primary Population (source)
    Secondary Population (source)
    Distance

    1 66.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 33.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.45

    2 89.8% British (Dodecad) + 10.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.5

    3 89.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.5

    4 89.9% British (Dodecad) + 10.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.54

    5 91.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 8.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.54

    6 66.9% British (Dodecad) + 33.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.57

    7 89.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.58

    8 88.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.6

    9 86.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 13.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.62

    10 90.5% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 9.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.62

    11 87.6% Orcadian (HGDP) + 12.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 0.65

    12 90.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 9.4% Turks (Behar) @ 0.65

    13 92.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.66

    14 92.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.67

    15 69% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 31% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.67

    16 72.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 27.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.67

    17 89.3% British (Dodecad) + 10.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.7

    18 90.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 9.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 0.7

    19 67.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 32.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.72

    20 91.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 8.9% Syrians (Behar) @ 0.72


     
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanian_Dodecad +50% N_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.229429


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cornwall_1000Genomes +25% Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad +25% Romanians_Behar @ 0.750038


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 CEU30_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.688283
    2 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.750038
    3 CEU30_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.753253
    4 British_Isles_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 0.778374
    5 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.803293
    6 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.805356
    7 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.807010
    8 British_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.808513
    9 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.811974
    10 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 0.813910
    11 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.816781
    12 British_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 0.816840
    13 British_Isles_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.819852
    14 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.822105
    15 British_Isles_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 0.824509
    16 British_Isles_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.830286
    17 CEU30_1000Genomes + Orcadian_HGDP + Polish_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 0.832384
    18 C_Italian_Dodecad + English_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.834853
    19 British_Isles_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 0.836179
    20 British_Isles_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + English_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 0.838406



    my 1st cousin.
    Largest Seg 74.6
    Total cM 741.0
    Gen 2.1
    Overlap 199100

    her mom is Scandinavian and Irish, her dad and my dad were brothers. sorry the copy and paste did not copy correctly.

     
    Population

    South_Asian
    0.89 Pct
    West_Asian
    10.39 Pct
    Siberian
    0.34 Pct
    African
    0.13 Pct
    Southern
    17.13 Pct
    Atlantic_Baltic
    70.46 Pct
    East_Asian
    0.66 Pct

    #

    Primary Population (source)
    Secondary Population (source)
    Distance
    1

    69.4%
    British (Dodecad)
    +
    30.6%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    0.94
    2

    54.7%
    Polish (Dodecad)
    +
    45.3%
    Baleares (1000Genomes)
    @
    0.95
    3

    69.9%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    30.1%
    Murcia (1000Genomes)
    @
    0.96
    4

    90.7%
    British (Dodecad)
    +
    9.3%
    Saudis (Behar)
    @
    0.97
    5

    78.9%
    French (Dodecad)
    +
    21.1%
    Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)
    @
    0.98
    6

    68.9%
    British_Isles (Dodecad)
    +
    31.1%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    0.99
    7

    83.2%
    French (Dodecad)
    +
    16.8%
    Russian_B (Behar)
    @
    1
    8

    90.5%
    British_Isles (Dodecad)
    +
    9.5%
    Saudis (Behar)
    @
    1.02
    9

    67.6%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    32.4%
    Galicia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.02
    10

    57.8%
    Polish (Dodecad)
    +
    42.2%
    Murcia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.04
    11

    66.8%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    33.2%
    Extremadura (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.04
    12

    92.2%
    English (Dodecad)
    +
    7.8%
    Saudis (Behar)
    @
    1.05
    13

    67.2%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    32.8%
    Baleares (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.05
    14

    77.8%
    French (Dodecad)
    +
    22.2%
    Ukranians (Yunusbayev)
    @
    1.07
    15

    66.9%
    Orcadian (HGDP)
    +
    33.1%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    1.07
    16

    68.5%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    31.5%
    Andalucia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.07
    17

    56.2%
    Polish (Dodecad)
    +
    43.8%
    Andalucia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.09
    18

    76.3%
    Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)
    +
    23.7%
    Murcia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.1
    19

    65.3%
    Orkney (1000Genomes)
    +
    34.7%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    1.1
    20

    76.4%
    Cornwall (1000Genomes)
    +
    23.6%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    1.1

     
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Baleares_1000Genomes +50% Belorussian_Behar @ 1.148732

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Argyll_1000Genomes +25% Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes +25% Romanians_Behar @ 0.756389


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
    1 CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.703943
    2 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.719976
    3 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.733923
    4 Argyll_1000Genomes + Orcadian_HGDP + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.735344
    5 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.740925
    6 CEU30_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + Galicia_1000Genomes + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.744977
    7 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.748537
    8 Argyll_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.753376
    9 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.756389
    10 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes @ 0.763237
    11 CEU30_1000Genomes + Extremadura_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.775688
    12 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.778567
    13 Dutch_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Galicia_1000Genomes + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.780912
    14 CEU30_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + Galicia_1000Genomes + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.781997
    15 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.782690
    16 CEU30_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 0.783335
    17 British_Dodecad + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.789487
    18 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.789487
    19 Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Dodecad + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.792362
    20 Dutch_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 0.795101



    there is something weird in the way we've inherited whatever we did.
    Last edited by JerryS.; 06-29-2020 at 01:34 PM.

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    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French_HGDP @ 3.278289
    2 French_Dodecad @ 3.537323
    3 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 5.296282
    4 Hungarians_Behar @ 5.350447
    5 Cornwall_1000Genomes @ 5.705825
    6 German_Dodecad @ 6.214775
    7 Kent_1000Genomes @ 6.476738
    8 English_Dodecad @ 6.743179
    9 CEU30_1000Genomes @ 6.764991
    10 Dutch_Dodecad @ 7.502115
    11 British_Dodecad @ 8.325872
    12 British_Isles_Dodecad @ 8.555510
    13 Irish_Dodecad @ 8.864813
    14 Orcadian_HGDP @ 9.406588
    15 Argyll_1000Genomes @ 9.544242
    16 Orkney_1000Genomes @ 10.133431
    17 Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 10.969661
    18 Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 11.796705
    19 Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 12.119406
    20 Polish_Dodecad @ 12.959977

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    Vahaduo version:

    wife:
    1.80396785 Dutch
    1.81760832 CEU30
    2.35365673 Kent
    2.36057196 Argyll
    2.36987341 German
    2.51998016 Irish
    2.64656381 British
    2.64909418 Cornwall
    2.71372438 English
    2.82671187 British_Isles
    2.85406727 Orcadian
    2.87318638 Mixed_Germanic
    3.46324992 Orkney

    MIne:

    3.28207252 Greek
    4.82306956 C_Italian
    7.94545153 Tuscan
    9.17921565 TSI30
    9.24835120 O_Italian
    9.55939329 S_Italian_Sicilian
    10.74471963 Sicilian
    11.91264035 Ashkenazy_Jews
    12.09792957 Ashkenazi
    14.07543960 Bulgarian
    15.08164447 Bulgarians
    16.20154314 Romanians
    16.89266113 N_Italian
    17.47781451 North_Italian
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    The GEDmatch oracle isn't terrible for my mom. My two-way is OK, but the 4-way adds an odd East European component. It also makes my dad bizarrely Eastern Euroepan.

    Dad

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 71.64
    2 Southern 15.27
    3 West_Asian 12.26


    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    7 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungarians_Behar @ 3.515818
    2 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 3.841921
    3 German_Dodecad @ 4.452135
    4 Cornwall_1000Genomes @ 4.853764
    5 French_HGDP @ 5.384268
    6 CEU30_1000Genomes @ 5.556609
    7 Kent_1000Genomes @ 5.588620
    8 Dutch_Dodecad @ 5.735088
    9 French_Dodecad @ 5.880088
    10 English_Dodecad @ 6.036213
    11 British_Dodecad @ 7.550957
    12 British_Isles_Dodecad @ 7.775270
    13 Irish_Dodecad @ 7.847329
    14 Argyll_1000Genomes @ 8.136333
    15 Orcadian_HGDP @ 8.380070
    16 Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 8.616693
    17 Orkney_1000Genomes @ 9.107387
    18 Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 9.625744
    19 Polish_Dodecad @ 11.132335
    20 Norwegian_Dodecad @ 12.003604

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanians_Behar +50% North_Italian_HGDP @ 0.000000


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Dodecad +25% N_Italian_Dodecad +25% Norwegian_Dodecad @ 0.000000


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Argyll_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP @ 0.000000
    2 Argyll_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + Lithuanian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.000000
    3 Argyll_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes + Tuscan_HGDP @ 0.000000
    4 Belorussian_Behar + CEU30_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP @ 0.000000
    5 Belorussian_Behar + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP @ 0.000000
    6 Belorussian_Behar + German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP @ 0.000000
    7 Belorussian_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP @ 0.000000
    8 British_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Hungarians_Behar + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.000000
    9 British_Isles_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Hungarians_Behar + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.000000
    10 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Lithuanians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.000000
    11 CEU30_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Polish_Dodecad @ 0.000000
    12 English_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 0.000000
    13 French_HGDP + Hungarians_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad @ 0.000000
    14 French_HGDP + Hungarians_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.000000
    15 French_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 0.000000
    16 French_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 0.000000
    17 French_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad @ 0.000000
    18 French_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.000000
    19 French_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 0.000000
    20 French_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.000000


    Mom

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Southern 39.41
    2 Atlantic_Baltic 29.33
    3 West_Asian 28.56
    4 African 1.15
    5 East_Asian 1.07


    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    7 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 5.084632
    2 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 5.413800
    3 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 5.560849
    4 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 6.485605
    5 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 7.466621
    6 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 8.065290
    7 Cypriots_Behar @ 13.494664
    8 Greek_Dodecad @ 13.707103
    9 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.525178
    10 Turkish_Dodecad @ 19.726639
    11 Lebanese_Behar @ 20.568583
    12 Turks_Behar @ 20.862545
    13 Tuscan_HGDP @ 22.220102
    14 TSI30_Metspalu @ 22.806887
    15 Syrians_Behar @ 22.837397
    16 Druze_HGDP @ 23.662146
    17 Jordanians_Behar @ 24.095242
    18 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 24.152027
    19 Palestinian_HGDP @ 24.474602
    20 Bedouin_HGDP @ 28.983618

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarians_Yunusbayev +50% Samaritians_Behar @ 1.759525


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Ashkenazi_Dodecad +25% Druze_HGDP +25% Greek_Dodecad @ 0.546876


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Druze_HGDP + Greek_Dodecad @ 0.546876
    2 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Druze_HGDP + Greek_Dodecad @ 0.697555
    3 Murcia_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 0.700070
    4 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Druze_HGDP @ 0.718066
    5 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Sardinian_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.738931
    6 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 0.741854
    7 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + C_Italian_Dodecad + Druze_HGDP @ 0.754978
    8 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + C_Italian_Dodecad + Druze_HGDP @ 0.797242
    9 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 0.797244
    10 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.806365
    11 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 0.826749
    12 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.828259
    13 Murcia_1000Genomes + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 0.833890
    14 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Druze_HGDP + Greek_Dodecad @ 0.850332
    15 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 0.865073
    16 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + French_Basque_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Saudis_Behar @ 0.876183
    17 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 0.877121
    18 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar @ 0.878672
    19 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 0.883755
    20 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Druze_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Spaniards_Behar @ 0.891919


    Me

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 53.79
    2 Southern 26.55
    3 West_Asian 17.79
    4 African 1.13


    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    7 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 3.658761
    2 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 5.518195
    3 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 5.644988
    4 North_Italian_HGDP @ 5.690785
    5 Romanians_Behar @ 6.030870
    6 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 6.169468
    7 Tuscan_HGDP @ 7.932345
    8 TSI30_Metspalu @ 7.948153
    9 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 11.726318
    10 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 12.764875
    11 Murcia_1000Genomes @ 12.830504
    12 Andalucia_1000Genomes @ 12.985024
    13 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 13.255181
    14 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 13.377882
    15 Spaniards_Behar @ 13.891874
    16 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 14.256093
    17 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 14.562461
    18 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes @ 15.128277
    19 Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes @ 15.223152
    20 Spanish_Dodecad @ 15.500840

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian_Dodecad +50% Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 0.394295


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian_Dodecad +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 0.394295


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Baleares_1000Genomes + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.000000
    2 Armenian_Dodecad + Canarias_1000Genomes + French_Basque_HGDP + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.250150
    3 C_Italian_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 0.253738
    4 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + German_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 0.266270
    5 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.277887
    6 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 0.281616
    7 C_Italian_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 0.356768
    8 Norwegian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 0.394295
    9 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 0.418009
    10 Morocco_Jews_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Swedish_Dodecad @ 0.421971
    11 French_HGDP + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.423712
    12 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + N_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.423712
    13 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.440426
    14 Belorussian_Behar + French_Basque_HGDP + Lebanese_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.441731
    15 Belorussian_Behar + Cantabria_1000Genomes + Lebanese_Behar + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.460414
    16 French_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.475822
    17 French_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.475822
    18 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.476705
    19 Morocco_Jews_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 0.478243
    20 Belorussian_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 0.479634

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    This model gives me a lot of Jewish groups for a secondary set. Something in my background gives this model fits trying to place a secondary group for the oracle, and the south Asian is puzzling to me. my mom is north German and Scottish, my dad is colonial American English and Italian.

     
    Population

    South_Asian 1.40 Pct
    West_Asian 13.08 Pct
    Siberian 0.19 Pct
    African -
    Southern 15.09 Pct
    Atlantic_Baltic 70.01 Pct
    East_Asian 0.22 Pct


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    #

    Primary Population (source)
    Secondary Population (source)
    Distance

    1 66.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 33.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.45

    2 89.8% British (Dodecad) + 10.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.5

    3 89.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.5

    4 89.9% British (Dodecad) + 10.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.54

    5 91.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 8.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.54

    6 66.9% British (Dodecad) + 33.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.57

    7 89.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.58

    8 88.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.6

    9 86.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 13.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.62

    10 90.5% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 9.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.62

    11 87.6% Orcadian (HGDP) + 12.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 0.65

    12 90.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 9.4% Turks (Behar) @ 0.65

    13 92.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.66

    14 92.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.67

    15 69% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 31% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.67

    16 72.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 27.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.67

    17 89.3% British (Dodecad) + 10.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.7

    18 90.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 9.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 0.7

    19 67.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 32.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.72

    20 91.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 8.9% Syrians (Behar) @ 0.72


     
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanian_Dodecad +50% N_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.229429


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cornwall_1000Genomes +25% Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad +25% Romanians_Behar @ 0.750038


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 CEU30_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.688283
    2 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.750038
    3 CEU30_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.753253
    4 British_Isles_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 0.778374
    5 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.803293
    6 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.805356
    7 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.807010
    8 British_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.808513
    9 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.811974
    10 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 0.813910
    11 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.816781
    12 British_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 0.816840
    13 British_Isles_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.819852
    14 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.822105
    15 British_Isles_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 0.824509
    16 British_Isles_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 0.830286
    17 CEU30_1000Genomes + Orcadian_HGDP + Polish_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 0.832384
    18 C_Italian_Dodecad + English_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.834853
    19 British_Isles_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 0.836179
    20 British_Isles_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + English_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 0.838406



    my 1st cousin.
    Largest Seg 74.6
    Total cM 741.0
    Gen 2.1
    Overlap 199100

    her mom is Scandinavian and Irish, her dad and my dad were brothers. sorry the copy and paste did not copy correctly.

     
    Population

    South_Asian
    0.89 Pct
    West_Asian
    10.39 Pct
    Siberian
    0.34 Pct
    African
    0.13 Pct
    Southern
    17.13 Pct
    Atlantic_Baltic
    70.46 Pct
    East_Asian
    0.66 Pct

    #

    Primary Population (source)
    Secondary Population (source)
    Distance
    1

    69.4%
    British (Dodecad)
    +
    30.6%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    0.94
    2

    54.7%
    Polish (Dodecad)
    +
    45.3%
    Baleares (1000Genomes)
    @
    0.95
    3

    69.9%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    30.1%
    Murcia (1000Genomes)
    @
    0.96
    4

    90.7%
    British (Dodecad)
    +
    9.3%
    Saudis (Behar)
    @
    0.97
    5

    78.9%
    French (Dodecad)
    +
    21.1%
    Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)
    @
    0.98
    6

    68.9%
    British_Isles (Dodecad)
    +
    31.1%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    0.99
    7

    83.2%
    French (Dodecad)
    +
    16.8%
    Russian_B (Behar)
    @
    1
    8

    90.5%
    British_Isles (Dodecad)
    +
    9.5%
    Saudis (Behar)
    @
    1.02
    9

    67.6%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    32.4%
    Galicia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.02
    10

    57.8%
    Polish (Dodecad)
    +
    42.2%
    Murcia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.04
    11

    66.8%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    33.2%
    Extremadura (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.04
    12

    92.2%
    English (Dodecad)
    +
    7.8%
    Saudis (Behar)
    @
    1.05
    13

    67.2%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    32.8%
    Baleares (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.05
    14

    77.8%
    French (Dodecad)
    +
    22.2%
    Ukranians (Yunusbayev)
    @
    1.07
    15

    66.9%
    Orcadian (HGDP)
    +
    33.1%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    1.07
    16

    68.5%
    Dutch (Dodecad)
    +
    31.5%
    Andalucia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.07
    17

    56.2%
    Polish (Dodecad)
    +
    43.8%
    Andalucia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.09
    18

    76.3%
    Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)
    +
    23.7%
    Murcia (1000Genomes)
    @
    1.1
    19

    65.3%
    Orkney (1000Genomes)
    +
    34.7%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    1.1
    20

    76.4%
    Cornwall (1000Genomes)
    +
    23.6%
    North_Italian (HGDP)
    @
    1.1

     
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Baleares_1000Genomes +50% Belorussian_Behar @ 1.148732

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Argyll_1000Genomes +25% Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes +25% Romanians_Behar @ 0.756389


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
    1 CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.703943
    2 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.719976
    3 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.733923
    4 Argyll_1000Genomes + Orcadian_HGDP + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.735344
    5 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.740925
    6 CEU30_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + Galicia_1000Genomes + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.744977
    7 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.748537
    8 Argyll_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.753376
    9 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.756389
    10 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes @ 0.763237
    11 CEU30_1000Genomes + Extremadura_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.775688
    12 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.778567
    13 Dutch_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Galicia_1000Genomes + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.780912
    14 CEU30_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + Galicia_1000Genomes + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 0.781997
    15 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.782690
    16 CEU30_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 0.783335
    17 British_Dodecad + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.789487
    18 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.789487
    19 Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Dodecad + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 0.792362
    20 Dutch_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 0.795101



    there is something weird in the way we've inherited whatever we did.
    I wouldnt pay attention to the fine details. This goes for all Gedmatch calcs, they are not able to split hairs as well as a G25 run would. It forces %'s and often whatever is left over is what gets assigned something weird. What I think you can gather from this particular run is a 90%-92% NW Euro and 8%-10% SE.
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8


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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    I wouldnt pay attention to the fine details. This goes for all Gedmatch calcs, they are not able to split hairs as well as a G25 run would. It forces %'s and often whatever is left over is what gets assigned something weird. What I think you can gather from this particular run is a 90%-92% NW Euro and 8%-10% SE.
    and not even SE (Europe), more like Middle Eastern/Caucuses.

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    mine

    Distance to: Vettor
    1.67228367 N_Italian
    5.24281413 North_Italian
    5.67671560 Bulgarians
    5.82555577 Romanians
    6.63559342 Bulgarian
    7.41330561 O_Italian
    9.44473928 TSI30
    9.53433270 Tuscan
    10.58302887 Baleares
    11.69294232 Extremadura
    12.00096246 Andalucia
    12.04304364 Murcia
    12.20807520 Galicia
    12.49627545 Portuguese
    12.51850231 Spaniards
    14.00975018 Castilla_La_Mancha
    14.02857441 Castilla_Y_Leon
    14.24651185 Cataluna
    14.24987368 Canarias
    14.29945803 Spanish
    14.68853635 Valencia
    16.08443658 Aragon
    16.27375494 C_Italian
    16.49227395 Cantabria
    16.94057555 French


    Target: Vettor
    Distance: 0.4959% / 0.49587942 | ADC: 0.25x
    69.8 N_Italian
    30.2 Romanians


    Target: Vettor
    Distance: 0.0419% / 0.04191882
    14.4 CEU30
    6.2 French
    6.2 Pais_Vasco
    6.2 TSI30
    5.0 Cataluna
    5.0 N_Italian
    5.0 Orcadian
    4.6 English
    4.6 Mixed_Germanic
    4.4 Armenian
    4.4 North_Italian



    I cannot remember which is North East Italy and which is North West Italy , between N_Italy and North_Italy


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-L22 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    and not even SE (Europe), more like Middle Eastern/Caucuses.
    right, but you know you are not Syrian etc. My guess is that if you did the 4 way Oracle, those weird outliers would disappear (and be replaced by less odd, but still likely not matching). I think its just trying to resolve a minor "other" when the two way oracle doesnt really fit well.
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    WHG,10.6
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