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    East African genes in India? or vice versa?

    Did East Africans contribute to genes in India? or Did ancient Indians come to East Africa?

    Now we know for sure there were east african empires in India, they must have contributed to genes there
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    Extremely minimially.

    There was more of an impact in Pakistan rather than India.

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    When you say East Africa, do you mean the Swahili coast or the Horn of Africa (Ethiopia,Somaliland,Eritrea and Djibouti)? I don't think the Horn had any impact on South Asia and neither did they have genetic impact on us but there are thousands of people with Bantu admixture in South Asia today and there are admixed Arab/Indian & Bantu communities in the Swahili coast (including Somalia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by akash View Post
    Did East Africans contribute to genes in India? or Did ancient Indians come to East Africa?

    Now we know for sure there some east african empires in India, they must have contributed to genes there
    Some of the Indians living in the Swahili coast in places like Mombasa, Zanzibar and Lamu have recent Swahili & Bajuni admixture like one grandparent, great grand-parent or parent being Swahili.

    In Mombasa we call a person of Swahili (Bantu) & Indian admixture Mchotara which is the same as saying Mulatto.

    As for East African admixture in India i dont know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetNomad View Post
    Extremely minimially.

    There was more of an impact in Pakistan rather than India.
    forgot Malik Ambar? the greatest African King of India. His empire stretched much of Central and Western India.

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    From the results I have seen, south Asian admixture is wide spread among small coastal communities of south-east African, but seems to be limited to only coastal towns which have a long cosmopolitan history of trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akash View Post
    forgot Malik Ambar? the greatest African King of India. His empire stretched much of Central and Western India.
    In East Africa, it is mainly Swahili areas that have some South Asian admixture. Also, the Benadiri population in Somalia and some Hararis in a city in Ethiopia. But it is very localized, not widespread.

    In South Asia, it is mainly along Pakistan's southern coast who have African admixture and there are also the Siddis in India, but also here it is very localized and not spread throughout South Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akash View Post
    forgot Malik Ambar? the greatest African King of India. His empire stretched much of Central and Western India.
    Apparently Malik Ambar was a Cushitic Oromo slave that was probably captured by neighboring Somali clans and sold off to Horner Islamic Sultanates and after a long journey and living in the Middle East arrived in India afterwards climbing his way to power in the Deccan region.His case wasn't the norm as not many pagan Horners were shipped abroad but were used domestically in cities or among nomadic clans.The vast majority of modern siddis or the equivalent in Pakistan are of Bantu origins unlike Malik Ambar

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Apparently Malik Ambar was a Cushitic Oromo slave that was probably captured by neighboring Somali clans and sold off to Horner Islamic Sultanates and after a long journey and living in the Middle East arrived in India afterwards climbing his way to power in the Deccan region.His case wasn't the norm as not many pagan Horners were shipped abroad but were used domestically in cities or among nomadic clans.The vast majority of modern siddis or the equivalent in Pakistan are of Bantu origins unlike Malik Ambar
    He has great respect in India, even in our history books his name is always there as a great leader and often quoted in great leadership qualities

    I feel sorry for him that he was sold by his own parents, his parents would have never imagined he would become a king in a different country


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    Also there were several African leaders in India, though Malik Ambar was the most famous

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