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Thread: DIY Ancient Scaled Calc for Italians and Western Jews

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrylBojarski View Post
    Do you know how much Hellenized_East-Mediterranean Bulgarians, Macedonians and North Greeks usually score on this calculator?
    Macedonian and Bulgarians approximately 47%, Albanian 54%, Greek (Central Macedonia) 59%. They lose only about 10% (less than I expected) if you include UKR_Cimmerian_O.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabass View Post
    Macedonian and Bulgarians approximately 47%, Albanian 54%, Greek (Central Macedonia) 59%. They lose only about 10% (less than I expected) if you include UKR_Cimmerian_O.
    Tuscans are sometimes likened to Albanians but with this calculator Tuscans have only ~40pc HEM against 54pc in Albanians.

    Is the Medieval_Germanic element (~10pc) the principal difference here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eolien View Post
    could you also post the same results with ADC:0.25x? thanks
    No problem. Here you go:

    Target: DewslothMom_scaled [Lebanese + a little Armenian]
    Distance: 1.9519% / 0.01951911 | ADC: 0.25x
    72.6 Levantine
    26.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    1.0 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Dewsloth_Uncle_scaled [Lebanese + a little Armenian]
    Distance: 2.0845% / 0.02084458 | ADC: 0.25x
    74.6 Levantine
    24.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    0.6 Silk_Road_Chinese
    0.4 Medieval_Germanic

    Target: DewslothDad_scaled [German, British, Belgian, Yeke, Swiss German]
    Distance: 1.1958% / 0.01195838 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.0 Medieval_Germanic
    41.8 Italic
    2.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    2.4 Levantine
    1.4 Medieval_Slav

    Target: Dewsloth_scaled [Custom Blend]
    Distance: 1.5509% / 0.01550935 | ADC: 0.25x
    59.2 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    28.2 Medieval_Germanic
    12.6 Levantine
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascio View Post
    Tuscans are sometimes likened to Albanians but with this calculator Tuscans have only ~40pc HEM against 54pc in Albanians.

    Is the Medieval_Germanic element (~10pc) the principal difference here?
    I think the source of their more 'Northern' origins is different yeah, but I have the impression Albanians have a more cut and dry DNA profile than Tuscans, who on the other hand do have smaller traces of more assorted MENA type DNA. This is obvious when you add Greek_Empuries, maybe very similar to migrants settling in Magna Graecia. The fit distance for Tuscans is very small BTW

    Albanians VS Tuscans.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabass View Post
    I think the source of their more 'Northern' origins is different yeah, but I have the impression Albanians have a more cut and dry DNA profile than Tuscans, who on the other hand do have smaller traces of more assorted MENA type DNA. This is obvious when you add Greek_Empuries, maybe very similar to migrants settling in Magna Graecia. The fit distance for Tuscans is very small BTW

    Albanians VS Tuscans.JPG
    What exactly is the Ukrainian Cimmerian Outlier?

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    Target: eolien_scaled
    Distance: 2.4029% / 0.02402912 | ADC: 0.25x
    79.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    9.8 Egyptian
    5.2 Berber
    5.2 Medieval_Germanic
    0.4 East-African

    Target: eolien_scaled
    Distance: 2.3380% / 0.02338020
    72.2 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    14.4 Egyptian
    8.0 Medieval_Germanic
    4.4 Berber
    0.6 East-African
    0.4 Silk_Road_Chinese

    without egyptian


    Target: eolien_scaled
    Distance: 2.5352% / 0.02535204 | ADC: 0.25x
    86.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    8.2 Berber
    2.8 Medieval_Germanic
    2.0 Levantine
    0.4 East-African

    Target: eolien_scaled
    Distance: 2.4548% / 0.02454763
    70.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    13.6 Levantine
    8.0 Berber
    7.6 Medieval_Germanic
    0.6 East-African
    0.2 Silk_Road_Chinese

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    Any idea what some Lebanese would score on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrewid View Post
    Any idea what some Lebanese would score on this?
    See posts 19, 35 and 54
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    My friend's results
    with and without Cimmerian_o

    Target: Chris_scaled
    Distance: 1.9000% / 0.01899989
    79.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    13.4 Medieval_Slav
    7.2 Italic

    Target: Chris_scaled
    Distance: 1.6535% / 0.01653506
    69.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    19.0 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    10.8 Medieval_Slav
    0.8 Berber

    What was this outlier's genetic profile like ?
    I suppose west paleobalkan like ?
    Target: UKR_Cimmerian_o
    Distance: 4.7330% / 0.04732986
    49.2 Italic
    39.8 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    9.6 Medieval_Slav
    0.8 Silk_Road_Chinese
    0.6 Medieval_Germanic

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    My friend's results
    with and without Cimmerian_o

    Target: Chris_scaled
    Distance: 1.9000% / 0.01899989
    79.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    13.4 Medieval_Slav
    7.2 Italic

    Target: Chris_scaled
    Distance: 1.6535% / 0.01653506
    69.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    19.0 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    10.8 Medieval_Slav
    0.8 Berber

    What was this outlier's genetic profile like ?
    I suppose west paleobalkan like ?
    Target: UKR_Cimmerian_o
    Distance: 4.7330% / 0.04732986
    49.2 Italic
    39.8 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    9.6 Medieval_Slav
    0.8 Silk_Road_Chinese
    0.6 Medieval_Germanic
    Yes, I believe that is the idea. You use that outlier in an attempt to seperate Paleo-Balkan influence from true Balto-Slavic ancestry. My family results are MUCH different with that sample included. It is very rare for my close family to differ this much on a calculator. To be blunt it is rare to find anything that indicates my mom was different genetically than my dad's close family.

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.1085% / 0.02108508
    62.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    18.0 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    10.6 Egyptian
    8.8 Medieval_Slav

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS_Dad(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.2220% / 0.02222025
    36.8 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    25.8 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    16.0 Levantine
    12.2 Egyptian
    9.2 Medieval_Slav

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
    Distance: 2.1014% / 0.02101428
    38.4 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    36.0 Levantine
    12.2 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    6.2 Early_Iberian
    6.0 Medieval_Slav
    1.2 Berber

    with penalty

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.1813% / 0.02181332 | ADC: 0.25x
    75.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    12.8 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    7.6 Medieval_Slav
    4.6 Egyptian

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS_Dad(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.3415% / 0.02341529 | ADC: 0.25x
    50.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    31.0 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    11.6 Egyptian
    6.4 Medieval_Slav
    0.4 Levantine

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
    Distance: 2.2420% / 0.02242040 | ADC: 0.25x
    39.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    36.0 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    17.2 Levantine
    3.8 Medieval_Slav
    1.8 Early_Iberian
    1.6 Berber

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