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  1. #11
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    X2d2

    Israel
    Target: Talombo_scaled
    Distance: 1.6108% / 0.01610832
    59.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    24.0 Levantine
    12.0 Berber
    2.4 Medieval_Slav
    1.2 Silk_Road_Chinese
    0.6 East-African
    0.2 SSA

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  3. #12
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    H76

    European Union Poland Germany Lithuania Romania Ukraine
    Target: Alain_mom
    Distance: 2.1385% / 0.02138464
    58.0 Medieval_Slav
    17.8 Medieval_Germanic
    14.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    7.0 Italic
    2.8 Early_Iberian
    0.4 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Alain_dad:E27758
    Distance: 2.1847% / 0.02184724
    78.2 Medieval_Slav
    13.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    7.6 Italic
    1.2 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Alain:E21436
    Distance: 2.6142% / 0.02614180
    57.2 Medieval_Slav
    20.0 Medieval_Germanic
    13.2 Italic
    9.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    0.6 Silk_Road_Chinese
    Alain Dad
    Y-DNA R1a-Y33 Eastern Corderd Ware Culture Baltoslavic/ old Pruzzen
    H76 czech Republic/England (Celtic tribes ?) W3a1d Yamnaya Culture, Samara /Pontic steppe
    Scytho-sarmatian.

    Eurogenes Global 25 Calculator/Modern

    My:
    Polish: 27.8%
    German: 21.9%
    Greek_Central_Macedonia: 20.0%
    Italian_Bergamo: 17.4%
    Russian_Voronez: 10.4%
    Mari: 2%
    Moldovan: 0.2%
    Italian_Northeast: 0.2%
    Other: 0.1%

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  5. #13
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    Target: 23abc_scaled
    Distance: 2.3228% / 0.02322840
    89.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    5.6 Medieval_Slav
    5.4 Levantine

    Target: 23abc_scaled
    Distance: 2.3420% / 0.02342015 | ADC: 0.25x
    96.2 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    3.8 Medieval_Slav
    Code:
    23abc_AncestryDNA_scaled,0.110408,0.151314,-0.0290383,-0.0507112,0.0018465,-0.0156179,-0.00305514,-0.00138456,-0.00899905,0.00911181,0.00243583,-0.00149867,-0.00431116,0.00344057,-0.00773606,0.00106072,0.00195576,0.00152026,0.00251396,-0.00550264,-0.00786113,-0.00197844,0.0025882,0.00168699,0.000957998

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    H5c

    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Distance: 6.9679% / 0.06967918 | ADC: 2x
    95.6 Medieval_Germanic
    4.4 Italic


    Distance: 5.6919% / 0.05691946 | ADC: 1x
    64.4 Medieval_Germanic
    32.0 Italic
    3.6 Medieval_Slav


    Distance: 3.2892% / 0.03289203 | ADC: 0.5x
    35.0 Medieval_Slav
    25.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    24.0 Medieval_Germanic
    15.6 Italic


    Distance: 2.9041% / 0.02904147 | ADC: 0.25x
    45.8 Medieval_Slav
    34.8 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    10.4 Medieval_Germanic
    9.0 Italic


    Distance: 2.8723% / 0.02872256
    49.8 Medieval_Slav
    38.2 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    6.6 Italic
    5.4 Medieval_Germanic

    Germanic trying to replace Slavic all over again smh

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  9. #15
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    H1a1

    Sweden Italy Italy 1861-1946 Sami Vatican Italy Tuscany
    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.3512% / 0.03351163
    49.8 Medieval_Germanic
    27.8 Early_Iberian
    14.0 Medieval_Slav
    6.2 Levantine
    2.2 Silk_Road_Chinese
    Not what I expected.
    Thanks for the calculator!

     
    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 4.3401% / 0.04340065 | ADC: 1x
    85.0 Medieval_Germanic
    7.8 Italic
    7.2 Early_Iberian

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.8906% / 0.03890602 | ADC: 0.5x
    72.4 Medieval_Germanic
    13.8 Italic
    13.4 Early_Iberian
    0.4 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.4267% / 0.03426704 | ADC: 0.25x
    56.2 Medieval_Germanic
    19.4 Early_Iberian
    11.0 Italic
    9.4 Medieval_Slav
    2.2 Levantine
    1.8 Silk_Road_Chinese
    Hidden Content

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.1640% / 0.03163963 | R3P
    64.4 __Germanic
    26.4 __IllyricRoman
    9.2 __Finnic

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  11. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by passenger View Post
    What did you use for "Hellenized_East-Mediterranean" and "Levantine"?

    Target: passenger_mom_scaled
    Distance: 1.7993% / 0.01799312
    41.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    32.4 Levantine
    11.8 Medieval_Slav
    7.6 Berber
    6.6 Italic
    And here's mine, with and without Egyptian. I often get Egyptian on these things, though my mother doesn't, and my NW European ancestry seems to pull my maternal East-Med ancestry towards "Italic":

    Target: passenger_scaled
    Distance: 2.1473% / 0.02147340
    47.0 Medieval_Germanic
    19.6 Italic
    16.6 Egyptian
    15.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    1.2 Berber

    Target: passenger_scaled
    Distance: 2.2995% / 0.02299507
    46.0 Medieval_Germanic
    20.2 Italic
    16.0 Levantine
    12.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    5.2 Berber

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  13. #17
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    Sweden Italy Italy 1861-1946 Sami Vatican Italy Tuscany
    I runned all Tuscan samples:


    Many of them score Early Iberian and very high East-Med.

    What sample did you use for East med?

    When modeling modern Italians to ancient DNA I noticed that tuscans often pick much Ancient Greek.
    Same thing in this model.

     

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:VO65
    Distance: 1.7754% / 0.01775388
    51.2 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    28.2 Early_Iberian
    11.0 Italic
    5.8 Medieval_Slav
    3.6 Medieval_Germanic
    0.2 Berber

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:VO59
    Distance: 3.3767% / 0.03376704
    26.2 Italic
    23.4 Levantine
    15.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    14.2 Medieval_Germanic
    13.2 Early_Iberian
    7.4 Medieval_Slav

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:VO109
    Distance: 2.4898% / 0.02489822
    51.4 Italic
    29.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    8.4 Levantine
    6.4 Medieval_Slav
    3.2 Medieval_Germanic
    0.8 East-African
    0.2 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany98
    Distance: 2.1549% / 0.02154882
    51.2 Italic
    36.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    11.8 Medieval_Germanic
    0.4 Berber

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany93
    Distance: 1.8532% / 0.01853247
    41.4 Italic
    30.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    17.0 Medieval_Germanic
    10.4 Levantine
    0.6 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany74
    Distance: 1.9919% / 0.01991879
    47.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    31.0 Italic
    20.0 Medieval_Germanic
    0.6 Egyptian
    0.6 SSA
    0.2 Medieval_Slav

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany54
    Distance: 1.8156% / 0.01815634
    56.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    25.6 Early_Iberian
    9.0 Medieval_Slav
    5.6 Italic
    3.8 Medieval_Germanic

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany38
    Distance: 2.0130% / 0.02013037
    39.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    39.4 Italic
    16.2 Medieval_Germanic
    3.6 Egyptian
    1.4 Berber

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany27
    Distance: 2.0422% / 0.02042185
    53.4 Italic
    39.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    4.0 Medieval_Slav
    3.2 Medieval_Germanic
    0.4 Berber

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:NA20508
    Distance: 1.2265% / 0.01226499
    48.8 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    22.0 Medieval_Germanic
    11.8 Early_Iberian
    11.6 Italic
    5.2 Levantine
    0.6 Berber

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:NA20506
    Distance: 2.4404% / 0.02440438
    52.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    30.4 Italic
    16.2 Medieval_Germanic
    0.8 Levantine
    0.6 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:NA20505
    Distance: 1.9341% / 0.01934067
    42.6 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    36.8 Italic
    14.0 Early_Iberian
    6.2 Medieval_Slav
    0.4 SSA

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:NA20504
    Distance: 2.3197% / 0.02319748
    37.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    34.4 Early_Iberian
    12.6 Levantine
    10.2 Medieval_Germanic
    5.0 Medieval_Slav
    0.8 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:NA20502
    Distance: 1.5608% / 0.01560781
    44.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    42.0 Italic
    10.8 Medieval_Germanic
    3.2 Medieval_Slav

    Target: Italian_Tuscany:NA20502
    Distance: 1.5608% / 0.01560781
    44.0 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    42.0 Italic
    10.8 Medieval_Germanic
    3.2 Medieval_Slav
    Hidden Content

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.1640% / 0.03163963 | R3P
    64.4 __Germanic
    26.4 __IllyricRoman
    9.2 __Finnic

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  15. #18
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    Nice calc

    Target: Buxoro_scaled
    Distance: 11.9473% / 0.11947307 | ADC: 2x
    100.0 Medieval_Germanic

    Target: Buxoro_scaled
    Distance: 11.5947% / 0.11594740 | ADC: 1x
    99.2 Medieval_Germanic
    0.8 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Buxoro_scaled
    Distance: 8.0639% / 0.08063852 | ADC: 0.5x
    84.2 Medieval_Germanic
    8.8 Silk_Road_Chinese
    7.0 Berber

    Target: Buxoro_scaled
    Distance: 7.3696% / 0.07369597 | ADC: 0.25x
    66.2 Medieval_Germanic
    11.6 Berber
    11.4 Silk_Road_Chinese
    10.8 Medieval_Slav

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  17. #19
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    Distance to: DewslothMom_scaled
    0.02775557 Levantine
    0.05045902 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    0.08517260 Egyptian
    0.13947369 Italic
    0.17741492 Early_Iberian

    Distance to: DewslothDad_scaled
    0.05459701 Medieval_Germanic
    0.05766859 Italic
    0.06770781 Early_Iberian
    0.12077186 Medieval_Slav
    0.12338479 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean

    Distance to: Dewsloth_scaled
    0.04819481 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    0.07145112 Italic
    0.09721551 Levantine
    0.10971135 Early_Iberian
    0.12747712 Medieval_Germanic


    Target: DewslothMom_scaled
    Distance: 1.9423% / 0.01942286
    71.4 Levantine
    27.2 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    1.2 Silk_Road_Chinese
    0.2 Medieval_Germanic

    Target: DewslothDad_scaled
    Distance: 1.0054% / 0.01005395
    48.8 Medieval_Germanic
    18.4 Early_Iberian
    15.2 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    11.2 Italic
    5.0 Medieval_Slav
    1.2 Levantine
    0.2 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Target: Dewsloth_scaled
    Distance: 1.2981% / 0.01298120
    35.4 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    33.8 Medieval_Germanic
    29.8 Levantine
    0.6 Italic
    0.4 Silk_Road_Chinese


    EDIT: So Egyptian doesn't show for any of us (other than Mom's similarity/distance).
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 07-10-2020 at 07:31 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Interesting calculator. Thanks

    0.02563093 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    0.04827407 Levantine
    0.09934826 Egyptian
    0.11392929 Italic
    0.15390274 Early_Iberian
    0.18550231 Medieval_Germanic
    0.22573102 Berber
    0.23587180 Medieval_Slav
    0.60822345 Silk_Road_Chinese
    0.64615305 East-African
    0.74853522 SSA



    69.8 Hellenized_East-Mediterranean
    29.2 Levantine
    1.0 Silk_Road_Chinese

    Silk Road Chinese! Now we're talking!

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