Austrian Y-DNA haplogroups

**slavomir** · 07-16-2020, 12:32 PM

i ran haplotypes from 3 Y-DNA studies on Austria trough Nevgen. these are the results:

Salzburg - 130 samples
R1b	37.38%	77
I1	11.17%	23
J2	11.17%	23
E	9.71%	20
R1a	9.71%	20
I2	9.22%	19
G	7.28%	15
J1	1.94%	4
T	0.97%	2
L	0.49%	1
N	0.49%	1
O	0.49%	1

subclades:

E1b1a V38>> L485	1	0.49%
E1b1a V38>> M4231	1	0.49%
E1b1b > V13	14	6.80%
E1b1b M123>M34> M84	2	0.97%
E1b1b M123>M34> Z841	1	0.49%
E1b1b V22	1	0.49%

G1a CTS11562	1	0.49%
G2a >> PF3359	1	0.49%
G2a2 > L497> Z27264	1	0.49%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725> FGC477	1	0.49%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803	1	0.49%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803> S2808> S23438	1	0.49%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803> Z42514	1	0.49%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> L43	1	0.49%
G2a2 > U1> L1266	3	1.46%
G2a2 > U1> L13	1	0.49%
G2a2a PF3147	1	0.49%
G2a2a PF3147>> L91	1	0.49%
G2a2b1 M406> PF3293	1	0.49%

I1 CTS6364> S4795>> S7642> Y6339	1	0.49%
I1 CTS6364> S4795>Y11221	1	0.49%
I1 DF29> FGC15560	1	0.49%
I1 L22> CTS11603>> Y19933	1	0.49%
I1 L22> FGC54050	1	0.49%
I1 L22>P109> S10891> FGC21705	1	0.49%
I1 P109> S10891> FGC21732	1	0.49%
I1 Z17954> Z131> PH554	1	0.49%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>Z2541> PH4482	2	0.97%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> BY477	1	0.49%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> F2642> A1590	2	0.97%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> F2642> Y1884	1	0.49%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> F2642>CTS6772	1	0.49%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> FGC22406	1	0.49%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140>> L338> A1944	1	0.49%
I1 Z58>Z59>> CTS7362> L1248	1	0.49%
I1 Z58>Z59>Z2040> Z382> S26361	1	0.49%
I1 Z58>Z59>Z60> FGC23806	1	0.49%
I1 Z63>>L849> S2077> PR683> L1237	1	0.49%
I1 Z63>>L849> S2077> PR683> S10360	1	0.49%
I1 Z63>BY151> BY351	1	0.49%

I2a1 S21825>> Y11949 ("Alpine")	1	0.49%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian > S17250> A5913	1	0.49%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian > S17250> FT16449	1	0.49%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> S17250> Z16971	1	0.49%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> Y4460> Y3118	1	0.49%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> Z17855	2	0.97%
I2a2a M223>L701> L699> L704	1	0.49%
I2a2a M223>L701> P78> S25733	2	0.97%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801> CTS1977>> Y5282>> Y84255	1	0.49%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> S2364>S2361> Z78	1	0.49%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> SK1258	1	0.49%
I2a2b L38> S2606> PH1237	1	0.49%
I2c1a1 L1251.1	5	2.43%

J1a >> P58>> FGC11> FGC3723	1	0.49%
J1a >> P58>> FGC11>> BY8	1	0.49%
J1a3 Z1828> Z1842> Z18436> CTS1460> CTS7188	1	0.49%
J1b F4306>> F1614>> F3547	1	0.49%

J2a1 L26>Z500> M92> CTS2906>> Y9005	1	0.49%
J2a1 L26>Z500> M92> PF7412	1	0.49%
J2a1 M319> S18579	1	0.49%
J2a1 M67>> S25258> SK1336	1	0.49%
J2a1 PF5191>> PH4970	1	0.49%
J2a1 Z1846> Y8378	1	0.49%
J2a1 Z387>L70> CTS3601	2	0.97%
J2a1 Z387>L70> Z2177	2	0.97%
J2a1 Z6065> Y7708>M47	1	0.49%
J2a1 Z6065> Z7532	1	0.49%
J2a1 Z7671> CTS900> Y11202	1	0.49%
J2a1 Z7700> SK1382	1	0.49%
J2a2 PF5008 >> PF5040	1	0.49%
J2b2a M241>> Z1296> Z1297	7	3.40%
J2b2a M241>>Z1297>> Z8425	1	0.49%

L1b M317> M3494572	1	0.49%
N1a1 M46 >> M2019	1	0.49%
O2a2 F525	1	0.49%
R1a	20	9.71%
R1b	77	37.38%

T >> CTS11451> Y4119>> Y15712	1	0.49%
T L131 > CTS933	1	0.49%

	206

Tyrol - 130 samples
R1b	41.54%	54
E	10.77%	14
G	10.77%	14
I1	9.23%	12
R1a	9.23%	12
I2	8.46%	11
J2	8.46%	11
J1	0.77%	1
Q	0.77%	1

subclades:

Upper Austria, 226 samples

R1b	36.28%	82
I2	14.60%	33
I1	11.50%	26
J2	9.73%	22
R1a	8.85%	20
G	7.52%	17
E	6.19%	14
J1	1.77%	4
N	1.77%	4
T	0.88%	2
C	0.44%	1
L	0.44%	1

subclades

C2 M217> F1067	1	0.44%

E1b1b > V13	9	3.98%
E1b1b M123>M34> M84	1	0.44%
E1b1b M123>M34> Z841	2	0.88%
E1b1b V22	2	0.88%

G2a2 > L497> Z27264	1	0.44%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725	1	0.44%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803	2	0.88%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> L43	1	0.44%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> Z16775> Z16777	1	0.44%
G2a2 > U1> L13	1	0.44%
G2a2a PF3147	1	0.44%
G2a2a PF3147>> L91	1	0.44%
G2a2a PF3147>> L91	4	1.77%
G2a2b1 M406> FGC5081> L14	1	0.44%
G2a2b1 M406> FGC5081> Z17887	1	0.44%
G2a2b1 M406> PF3293	2	0.88%

I1 CTS6364> S4795>> S7642> Y6340	1	0.44%
I1 CTS6364> S4795>A394	1	0.44%
I1 CTS6364> S4795>A5338	1	0.44%
I1 DF29> BY13858	1	0.44%
I1 L22>> L287> L258> BY510	1	0.44%
I1 L22>L813> FGC9487>> FGC17580	1	0.44%
I1 Z17954> A8100>> A9687	1	0.44%
I1 Z17954> Z131> A9178	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>S6277> S6270	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>Z2541	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>Z2541> PH4482	2	0.88%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> A1603	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> F2642> A1590	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> F2642> Y1884	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> FGC22406	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> Y5497	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140>> L338> A1944	2	0.88%
I1 Z58>Z59>> CTS7362> L1248	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z59>Z2040> A12798	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z59>Z2040> Z382> S26361	1	0.44%
I1 Z58>Z59>Z2040> Z382> Y2170	2	0.88%
I1 Z58>Z59>Z60> FGC23806	1	0.44%
I1 Z63>>L849> S2077> S2097	1	0.44%

I2a1 S21825>> Y11949 ("Alpine")9165	1	0.44%
I2a1b3 SlavicCarpathian & Disles L621	1	0.44%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian > S17250	2	0.88%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian > S17250> A356	1	0.44%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian > S17250> FT16449	1	0.44%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> S17250> Y4882> A10230	1	0.44%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> S17250> Z16971	1	0.44%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> S17250> Z16971> A2423	2	0.88%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> S17250> Z16971> A815	1	0.44%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> S17250> Z16971> BY183912	2	0.88%
I2a1b3a SlavicCarpathian> Y4460> S8201	1	0.44%
I2a2a M223>L701> L699> S12195	1	0.44%
I2a2a M223>L701> P78> S25733	3	1.33%
I2a2a M223>Y4450> L1229	1	0.44%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801> CTS1977>> Y5282> S8522	2	0.88%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> S2364>S2361> Z78	4	1.77%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> S2364>ZS20	3	1.33%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> SK1258	2	0.88%
I2a2b L38> BY14072	1	0.44%
I2c1a1 L1251.1	2	0.88%

J1a >> P58>> FGC11>> FGC8712	1	0.44%
J1a >> P58>> YSC76>> FGC15940> ZS1711	2	0.88%
J1a3 Z1828> BY69	1	0.44%

J2a1 L26>Z500> M92> PF7412	3	1.33%
J2a1 M67>> S25258> S21160	1	0.44%
J2a1 PF5191>> PH4970	1	0.44%
J2a1 Z387> FGC35503	2	0.88%
J2a1 Z387>L70> CTS3601	4	1.77%
J2a1 Z387>L70> PH3882	1	0.44%
J2a1 Z6065> Z7532	1	0.44%
J2a2 PF5008	1	0.44%
J2b2a M241>> Z1296> PH2967	1	0.44%
J2b2a M241>> Z1296> Z1297	5	2.21%
J2b2a M241>>Z1297>> Z8425	2	0.88%

L1b M317> M3499083	1	0.44%

N1a1 M46 >> L1026 >> Z4908>> M2783> Y5580	1	0.44%
N1a1 M46 >> L1026> Z1936> Y13851	1	0.44%
N1a1 M46 >> M2019	1	0.44%
N1a1 M46>> L1026> Z1936> Z1934>> CTS4329	1	0.44%

R1a	20	8.85%
R1b	82	36.28%

T L131 > CTS933	1	0.44%
T>PF5633> Y16897	1	0.44%

	226

East Tyrol, 270 samples
R1b	42.22%	114
I1	15.93%	43
R1a	14.07%	38
G	7.78%	21
J2	7.04%	19
E	5.56%	15
I2	3.70%	10
J1	1.85%	5
L	0.74%	2
T	0.74%	2
Q	0.37%	1

subclades:

E1a M132	1	0.37%
E1b1b > V13	12	4.44%
E1b1b M123>M34> M84	1	0.37%
E1b1b M123>M34> Z841	1	0.37%
G1a CTS11562	1	0.37%
G2a1 Z6552	7	2.59%
G2a2 > L497> Z27264	1	0.37%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725	3	1.11%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725> Z39863	1	0.37%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803> S2808	1	0.37%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803> S2808> FGC8303	3	1.11%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803> S2808> S23438	1	0.37%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> L43	2	0.74%
G2a2 > U1> L13	1	0.37%
I1 L22> CTS11603>> Y19933	1	0.37%
I1 L22> Z2338> CTS6017	1	0.37%
I1 L22>> BY35223	1	0.37%
I1 L22>> L287> L258> Y107833	1	0.37%
I1 L22>L205	1	0.37%
I1 L22>L813> FGC9487>> FGC17580	1	0.37%
I1 L22>L813> Y30373	2	0.74%
I1 Z17954> A8100>> Z17926	2	0.74%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>S6277> Y15902	3	1.11%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>Z2541	1	0.37%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>Z2541> PH4482	2	0.74%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>Z2541> Y7043	1	0.37%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> F2642> A1590	7	2.59%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> F2642> Y1884	1	0.37%
I1 Z58>Z59>> CTS7362>> BY266> Z2900	1	0.37%
I1 Z58>Z59>> CTS7362>> BY479	2	0.74%
I1 Z58>Z59>> CTS7362>> L573	1	0.37%
I1 Z58>Z59>Z2040> L1450	1	0.37%
I1 Z58>Z59>Z60> A9271	1	0.37%
I1 Z63>>L849> S2077> PR683> L1237	2	0.74%
I1 Z63>>L849> S2077> PR683> S10360	3	1.11%
I1 Z63>>L849> S2077> S2097	1	0.37%
I1 Z63>>L849> S2077> Y16436	3	1.11%
I1 Z63>BY151> BY351	1	0.37%
I1 Z63>BY151> S11545	2	0.74%
I2a1b3a Slavic-Carpathian > A2512	1	0.37%
I2a1b3a Slavic-Carpathian > S17250	1	0.37%
I2a2a M223>L701> P78> S25733	4	1.48%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L623	1	0.37%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> S2364>S2361> Z78	1	0.37%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> S2364>Y4955	1	0.37%
I2a2b L38> S2606> PH1237	1	0.37%
J1a2a2 PF7264> PF7263	2	0.74%
J1a3 Z1828> BY69	3	1.11%
J2a1 L26>Z500> M92> CTS2906> S8230	1	0.37%
J2a1 L26>Z500> M92> CTS2906>> Y11782	1	0.37%
J2a1 L26>Z500> M92> CTS2906>> Y9005	1	0.37%
J2a1 PF5191>> PH4970	1	0.37%
J2a1 Z1846> Y8378	4	1.48%
J2a1 Z6065> Y7708> Z39478	1	0.37%
J2a1 Z7671> Y13667	1	0.37%
J2b2a M241>> Z1296> PH2967	1	0.37%
J2b2a M241>> Z1296> Z1297	7	2.59%
J2b2а M241>>CTS3617	1	0.37%
L1b M317	2	0.74%
Q L275>> L245> Y2209	1	0.37%
R1a	38	14.07%
R1b R-U106/S21	51	18.89%
R1b R-L23/S141*	5	1.85%
R1b R-M412/S167*	13	4.81%
R1b R-U152/S28	34	12.59%
R1b R-L11/S127*	2	0.74%
R1b R-S116*	8	2.96%
R1b M73	1	0.37%
T >> CTS11451> Y4119>> Y3781	1	0.37%
T L131 > CTS933	1	0.37%
	270

Reutte(Tyrol), 261 samples
R1b	47.13%	123
I1	10.34%	27
E	9.58%	25
G	9.58%	25
R1a	7.66%	20
J2	6.90%	18
I2	5.75%	15
J1	1.53%	4
L	0.77%	2
Q	0.77%	2

subclades:

E1a M132	2	0.77%
E1b1a V38>> M4231	1	0.38%
E1b1b > V13	14	5.36%
E1b1b L67	2	0.77%
E1b1b M123>M34> M84	1	0.38%
E1b1b V1515	1	0.38%
E1b1b V22	4	1.53%
G1a CTS11562	1	0.38%
G2a1 Z6552	1	0.38%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725	1	0.38%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725> FGC477	1	0.38%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725> Z40867	2	0.77%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803	1	0.38%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> CTS4803> S2808> FGC8303	2	0.77%
G2a2 > L497>> Z725>> L43	5	1.92%
G2a2 > U1> L1266	1	0.38%
G2a2 > U1> L13	4	1.53%
G2a2 >> M278	1	0.38%
G2a2b1 M406> FGC5081> L14	2	0.77%
G2a2b1 M406> PF3293	1	0.38%
G2a2b2a1c CTS342	2	0.77%
I1 CTS6364> S4795>> S4762> Y13016	1	0.38%
I1 CTS6364>> FGC10430	2	0.77%
I1 DF29> FGC15560	4	1.53%
I1 DF29>> Z2337> JN36	1	0.38%
I1 L22>L813	1	0.38%
I1 Z17954> A8100>> A8755	1	0.38%
I1 Z58>> S9939	3	1.15%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>Z2541> PH4482	1	0.38%
I1 Z58>Z138>S2293>Z2541> Y7043	2	0.77%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> BY477	1	0.38%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> F2642>CTS6772	1	0.38%
I1 Z58>Z59> Z60>Z140> FGC22406	1	0.38%
I1 Z58>Z59>> CTS7362>> BY266> Z2900	2	0.77%
I1 Z58>Z59>> CTS7362>> BY479	1	0.38%
I1 Z58>Z59>> CTS7362>> L573	1	0.38%
I1 Z59>> CTS7362>> BY266> L1302> BY126	1	0.38%
I1 Z59>> CTS7362>> BY266> L1302> BY584	1	0.38%
I1 Z59>> CTS7362>> BY266> L1302> Y12328	1	0.38%
I1 Z63>>L849> S2077> Y16436	1	0.38%
I2a1b3a Slavic-Carpathian > S17250> A5913	1	0.38%
I2a1b3a Slavic-Carpathian > S17250> BY37513	1	0.38%
I2a1b3a Slavic-Carpathian > S17250> FT14506	2	0.77%
I2a1b3a Slavic-Carpathian> Y4460> Y3118	1	0.38%
I2a1b3a Slavic-Carpathian> Z17855> BY45622	2	0.77%
I2a2a M223>L701> P78> S25733	1	0.38%
I2a2a M223>Y4450> L1229>> BY524	1	0.38%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801> CTS1977>> BY526	1	0.38%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801> CTS1977>> Y7824	1	0.38%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> S2364>S2361> FGC55856	2	0.77%
I2a2a M223>Z161>L801>CTS6433> S2364>S2361> Z78	1	0.38%
I2a2b L38> S2606> PH1237	1	0.38%
J1a >> P58>> L858> Z640	1	0.38%
J1a >> P58>> L858>> Z640> FGC5230	1	0.38%
J1a >> P58>> S4924 >> L818	1	0.38%
J1a >> P58>> YSC76>> FGC8223> FGC8216	1	0.38%
J2a1 L26>Z500> M92> CTS4132	1	0.38%
J2a1 M67>> S25258> SK1336	2	0.77%
J2a1 PF5191>> S15439	6	2.30%
J2a1 Z1846> Y8378	1	0.38%
J2a1 Z387>L70> Z2177	2	0.77%
J2a1 Z7700> SK1382	1	0.38%
J2b2a M241>> Z1296> Z1297	3	1.15%
J2b2a M241>>Z1297>> Z8425	1	0.38%
J2b2а M241>>CTS3617	1	0.38%
L1b M317	2	0.77%
Q L275>> L245> Y2209	1	0.38%
Q M346>> M3> M902	1	0.38%
R1a	20	7.66%
R1b R-M173	1	0.38%
R1b R-U106	54	20.69%
R1b R-M269	35	13.41%
R1b R-U152	32	12.26%
R1b	1	0.38%
	261

**slavomir** · 07-16-2020, 12:35 PM

studies:

Salzburg, Tyrol and Upper Austria:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4145662/

Reutte:
https://link.springer.com/article/10...0751-1#SecESM1

East Tyrol:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0041885
this last one is an interesting and well researched study, i recommend it.

if you know of any other studies on Austrian Y-dna, please share them.

**ChrisR** · 07-23-2020, 02:55 PM

Last update 2015 I collected this listing of DNA results with focus on (South) Tyrol:
https://popgen.us/tigen/tyrolean-dna...tic-structure/
https://ti.gen.or.at/wiki/Tyrolean_D...etic_structure Older Wiki
Some older Tyrol, US Hutterite (should have origin in Carinthia), Slovak Hobans (former Hutterite) studies exist.
While I did analyze most of the Y-DNA (focus J2) years ago, NevGen did not exist. Not sure how well the predictions would be on low STR number old studies.

**ChrisR** · 07-28-2020, 07:17 PM

@slavomir: may I ask which NevGen Predictor did you use? I assume the NevGen Genealogy Tools v1.1 NevGen.exe (STR dat files are from 2019.10) and not the online Predictor (according to the blog the last update was 2019.07).
I used the online Predictor to check the Reutte J samples and the results seems less accurate:
Reutte-NevGen-2020.png

**slavomir** · 07-28-2020, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisR

@slavomir: may I ask which NevGen Predictor did you use? I assume the NevGen Genealogy Tools v1.1 NevGen.exe (STR dat files are from 2019.10) and not the online Predictor (according to the blog the last update was 2019.07).
I used the online Predictor to check the Reutte J samples and the results seems less accurate:
Reutte-NevGen-2020.png

Yes, I used the offline version (NevGen Genealogy Tools v1.1).

**slavomir** · 07-29-2020, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisR

@slavomir: may I ask which NevGen Predictor did you use? I assume the NevGen Genealogy Tools v1.1 NevGen.exe (STR dat files are from 2019.10) and not the online Predictor (according to the blog the last update was 2019.07).
I used the online Predictor to check the Reutte J samples and the results seems less accurate:
Reutte-NevGen-2020.png

did you reorder the markers into the nevgen 17 marker order?
REU_181 14 13 22 29 17 15 13 16 12 10 11 21 11 11 15 9 20

this is what i get for 181:

Originally Posted by ChrisR

I assume the NevGen Genealogy Tools v1.1 NevGen.exe (STR dat files are from 2019.10) and not the online Predictor (according to the blog the last update was 2019.07).

i noticed the online and offline version give slightly different predictions sometimes. i think the online version is actually more up to date, it has more subclades in the database, 6 additional haplogoruop i subclades and 460 r1b subclades which aren't in the offline version at all, at least i can't find them.

**ChrisR** · 08-04-2020, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by slavomir

did you reorder the markers into the nevgen 17 marker order?
REU_181 14 13 22 29 17 15 13 16 12 10 11 21 11 11 15 9 20

this is what i get for 181:
J2a1-Z7700 33% Uns. 29% Z6065 22%

i noticed the online and offline version give slightly different predictions sometimes. i think the online version is actually more up to date, it has more subclades in the database, 6 additional haplogoruop i subclades and 460 r1b subclades which aren't in the offline version at all, at least i can't find them.

I usually bring study samples into the FTDNA format (including GATA-H4 conversion) so to use them with FTDNA kits in MODIFIED McGee's Y-Utility etc.
I need time to double check on this, seemed strange. Where did you find the info about the more subclades of the online version?
Thanks.

**Baltimore1937** · 09-08-2020, 06:18 AM

I wish I knew what my Austrian-born maternal grandfather had for a Y-DNA. He was born in Steyr, Upper Austria, but I wonder about his deep lineage.

**Riverman** · 09-08-2020, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by Baltimore1937

I wish I knew what my Austrian-born maternal grandfather had for a Y-DNA. He was born in Steyr, Upper Austria, but I wonder about his deep lineage.

If his surname was rare, maybe you find paternal relatives?

**slavomir** · 09-08-2020, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisR

I usually bring study samples into the FTDNA format (including GATA-H4 conversion) so to use them with FTDNA kits in MODIFIED McGee's Y-Utility etc.
I need time to double check on this, seemed strange. Where did you find the info about the more subclades of the online version?
Thanks.

hey, sorry, i didn't see your reply until now.

if you scroll to the bottom of the Probability/Fitness chart, you can see how many references was your haplotype compared to.

for example, if you run a r1b haplotype trough the online version, "Subclades of R1b" mode, you'll see it gets compared to 511 different R1b subclades now. so it got updated since my last post.
and in the offline version, there is just a dozen basic r1b subclades and that's it.

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