Origin, Y-DNA of Sandzak Muslims

[gjenetiks]

From other data I have seen, it looks as though the majority of Sandzak Muslims are of Albanian Malesor origin and score high E-V13. Haven't seen any more data on this and cannot find the earlier data. Anyone have it? Please post and discuss.

[oz]

Wouldn't be surprised if Sandžak Muslims are more Albanian, Serbian and Montenegrin-like than Bosnian Muslims. I too would like to see a good study on their uniparentals and autosomals with a solid number of samples.

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[slavomir]

From other data I have seen, it looks as though the majority of Sandzak Muslims are of Albanian Malesor origin and score high E-V13. Haven't seen any more data on this and cannot find the earlier data. Anyone have it? Please post and discuss.

this is the Bosniak dna project, with both Sandžak and Bosnian Bosniaks. In column 3 on the first link, you can see some of the participants have an Albanian origin. but i'm not sure if it's the majority of them.

https://bosnjackidnk.com/baza-bez-markera/
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...4456171879&z=8

this is a Sandžak only overview from 2018. now there are probably more samples, and a more accurate one could be made.

189 samples
E-V13 (78) - 41,2%
R1b (32) - 16,9%
I2 (24) - 12,7%
J2b (19) - 10%
I1 (10) - 5,3%
J2a (10) - 5,3%
R1a (5) - 2,6%
G2a (5) - 2,6%
T (2) - 1,1%
C (2) - 1,1%
H (1) - 0,6%
J1 (1) - 0,6%

[gjenetiks]

this is the Bosniak dna project, with both Sandžak and Bosnian Bosniaks. In column 3 on the first link, you can see some of the participants have an Albanian origin. but i'm not sure if it's the majority of them.

https://bosnjackidnk.com/baza-bez-markera/
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...4456171879&z=8

this is a Sandžak only overview from 2018. now there are probably more samples, and a more accurate one could be made.

189 samples
E-V13 (78) - 41,2%
R1b (32) - 16,9%
I2 (24) - 12,7%
J2b (19) - 10%
I1 (10) - 5,3%
J2a (10) - 5,3%
R1a (5) - 2,6%
G2a (5) - 2,6%
T (2) - 1,1%
C (2) - 1,1%
H (1) - 0,6%
J1 (1) - 0,6%

So would it be fair to say the majority of Sandzak muslims are of Malesor Albanian origin? If this Sandzak only sample is true, it would indicate so.

[gjenetiks]

So would it be fair to say the majority of Sandzak muslims are of Malesor Albanian origin? If this Sandzak only sample is true, it would indicate so.

To be fair looking at this database it seems a lot of Sandzak Muslims carry the I2a Slavic haplogroup was well. Is this from Bosnian migration from Bosnia proper or an indication of Montenegrin original origin?

[slavomir]

To be fair looking at this database it seems a lot of Sandzak Muslims carry the I2a Slavic haplogroup was well. Is this from Bosnian migration from Bosnia proper or an indication of Montenegrin original origin?

i don't think there was a lot of a such migration. the bulk of their origin is from just a handful of Montenegrin Brda(a region just south of Sandžak) tribes and Albanian tribes. the R1a and i2a are probably mostly remains of the older Serbian population.

[Kulin]

i don't think there was a lot of a such migration. the bulk of their origin is from just a handful of Montenegrin Brda(a region just south of Sandžak) tribes and Albanian tribes. the R1a and i2a are probably mostly remains of the older Serbian population.

How do Serbs from the same region compare in terms of Y dna distribution?

[slavomir]

How do Serbs from the same region compare in terms of Y dna distribution?

after a quick look at the Serbian dna project, it's should be roughly like this (maybe i missed a few results)

i2 38.67
e 18.22
i1 15.11
r1a 9.33
j2 5.33
g 4.89
r1b 3.56
j1 2.22
q 1.78
n 0.89

225 samples

[oz]

To be fair looking at this database it seems a lot of Sandzak Muslims carry the I2a Slavic haplogroup was well. Is this from Bosnian migration from Bosnia proper or an indication of Montenegrin original origin?

Doubt there was ever significant migration from Bosnia proper. It's been more the other way around.