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    Seems typical for a southern Portuguese person IMO. Southern Iberians tend to score traces of North African and SSA.

    There is also likely some Sephardic in your ancestry given all the oracle and testing hits for Jewish pops.
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    hi . can you post your Eurogenes k12b results please ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnetic View Post
    hi . can you post your Eurogenes k12b results please ?
    Eurogenes K12b

    Western European: 40.03
    East African: 4.72
    Caucasus 6.99
    Finnish 3.20
    Mediterranean 24.39
    Southwest Asia 8.24
    North European 12.42

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    Quote Originally Posted by mildlycurly View Post
    Seems typical for a southern Portuguese person IMO. Southern Iberians tend to score traces of North African and SSA.

    There is also likely some Sephardic in your ancestry given all the oracle and testing hits for Jewish pops.
    My family is from the north of Portugal but I agree, I also think I have Sephardic ancestry because I have a lot of Jewish matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    Portuguese MH results are extremely varied and thus considered unreliable. From my experience people testing with different companies who upload their results to Gedmatch end up having rather similar results overall, so in terms of raw data I wouldn't care much which company one uses. That said, the best Gedmatch tests are those of Eurogenes, particularly K13 and K15, which you have not posted. K36 has too many components for my liking.
    North Atlantic 42.66
    West Med 22.78
    East Med 14.9
    Baltic 11.6
    Northeast African 3.97
    Red Sea 3.59
    Oceanian 0.26
    West Asian 0.23

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    Quote Originally Posted by mildlycurly View Post
    Seems typical for a southern Portuguese person IMO. Southern Iberians tend to score traces of North African and SSA.

    There is also likely some Sephardic in your ancestry given all the oracle and testing hits for Jewish pops.
    She is from the north of Portugal. If you want to see a southern result I can show, but I will say there isn't much of a difference between my results and OP's. This shouldn't come as a surprise as the genetics work from east to west instead of north to south in Iberia. However, you're right to say that in the deep south there is typically a higher SSA trace than the northern areas, probably due to slave trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luasits View Post
    North Atlantic 42.66
    West Med 22.78
    East Med 14.9
    Baltic 11.6
    Northeast African 3.97
    Red Sea 3.59
    Oceanian 0.26
    West Asian 0.23
    It's interesting that your North Atlantic is very high for Portugal but your West Med is very low, our national reference has them at 38.5% and 25.3% respectively. I'd be curious to see how that translates into the K15. Have you researched your genealogy?
    YDNA E-Y31991>PF4428>Y134097>Y134104>Y168273>FT17866 (TMRCA ~1100AD) - Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1690 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal - Stonemason, miller.
    mtDNA H20 - Monica Vieira, b. circa 1700 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

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    [1] "distance%=1.6007"

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    NW_Iberia_IA,80.4
    Berber_EMA,11
    Roman_Colonial,8.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    It's interesting that your North Atlantic is very high for Portugal but your West Med is very low, our national reference has them at 38.5% and 25.3% respectively. I'd be curious to see how that translates into the K15. Have you researched your genealogy?
    Yes I did the genealogical research of my mom side and they're all from Aveiro, Portugal and my dad is adopted, I don't have enough information about his family

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    It's interesting that your North Atlantic is very high for Portugal but your West Med is very low, our national reference has them at 38.5% and 25.3% respectively. I'd be curious to see how that translates into the K15. Have you researched your genealogy?
    This is the Eurogenes Eutest V2 K15
    Atlantic 35.09
    North Sea 20.07
    West Med 18.48
    East Med 10.74
    Northeast Africa 4.17
    Eastern Euro 3.82
    Red Sea 3.74
    Baltic 3.2
    West Asia 0.53
    Oceanian 0.14

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    Quote Originally Posted by luasits View Post
    This is the Eurogenes Eutest V2 K15
    Atlantic 35.09
    North Sea 20.07
    West Med 18.48
    East Med 10.74
    Northeast Africa 4.17
    Eastern Euro 3.82
    Red Sea 3.74
    Baltic 3.2
    West Asia 0.53
    Oceanian 0.14
    Thanks, that's hilarious, you have even more Atlantic than I do which is extremely rare. Our national reference has 26.6%, I have 34.7% and you still manage to beat that. Your North European-related components are very high and on par with Cantabrian and Catalonian references, which is perhaps the first time I see on a Portuguese individual. I'd really like to see how that would pan out in G25, but you'd have to pay David 12USD in order to get that. My guess is that we'll have similar profiles, but you might be more North/NE-shifted than I. Hard to say because your NE African is also very high, even though the ADMIXTURE algorithm gave you no SSA. Also these things might not translate accordingly to G25, since these components aren't totally reliable.

    Quote Originally Posted by luasits View Post
    Yes I did the genealogical research of my mom side and they're all from Aveiro, Portugal and my dad is adopted, I don't have enough information about his family
    Whereabouts in Aveiro? I have a few lines of ancestry from Castelo de Paiva, northwestern Arouca and northeastern Feira (both close to the border with Gondomar). It's still a very minor part of my ancestry though, most of which is from Viseu, Porto and Braga districts
    YDNA E-Y31991>PF4428>Y134097>Y134104>Y168273>FT17866 (TMRCA ~1100AD) - Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1690 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal - Stonemason, miller.
    mtDNA H20 - Monica Vieira, b. circa 1700 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

    Hidden Content
    Global25 PCA West Eurasia dataset Hidden Content

    [1] "distance%=1.6007"

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    NW_Iberia_IA,80.4
    Berber_EMA,11
    Roman_Colonial,8.6

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