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Thread: Experimental K12 "Deep" Calculator for Africans and West Eurasians

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    Target: Anihilist_scaled
    Distance: 7.3528% / 0.07352774 | ADC: 2x
    70.4 POL_Globular_Amphora
    29.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

    Target: Anihilist_scaled
    Distance: 5.0179% / 0.05017949
    44.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    43.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    12.2 Baltic_LTU_Narva
    0.2 Ancestral_N_African
    0.2 Pre-Pastoralist

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    Me:

    Distance: 2.8689752559318533%

    POL_Globular_Amphora: 58.2%
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 37.9%
    TUR_Barcin_N: 2.8%
    Sino-Tibetan: 1.1%

    Dad:

    Distance: 3.2359855432549574%

    POL_Globular_Amphora: 48.6%
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 41.3%
    TUR_Barcin_N: 7.7%
    Sino-Tibetan: 1.8%

    Mom:

    Distance: 2.993777524925117%

    POL_Globular_Amphora: 58.3%
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 41.6%

    Wife:

    Distance: 2.81953325050227%

    POL_Globular_Amphora: 55.8%
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 42.7%
    Ancient_Arabian: 0.8%
    Pre-Pastoralist: 0.6%

    Father in law:

    Distance: 4.5403197996204385%

    POL_Globular_Amphora: 52.8%
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 45.8%
    Pre-Pastoralist: 1.4%

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Judging from your results, you are only 10% African; is that close to your actually SSA percentage?
    Yes and no...its an issue of max likelihood n been driving me crazy until recently when I got my Ancestry results and their range feature sorta given me a resolution(18%). Max likelihood either erases my dad's African ancestry or amalgamates both great-granny's into a smaller portion, I talked bwt it here.

    Creating a ghost of 'known' ancestries or closest proximate individual instead of overfitting with a buncha diff pops. is in keeping with both Ancestry max range and SAPDA which I can't recommend enough:


    Target: yams_ancestry
    Distance: 2.5942% / 0.02594191
    79.0 Brahmin_Gujarat+Yemenite_Jew
    21.0 Luo

    Target: yams_23andme
    Distance: 3.2952% / 0.03295241
    76.6 Brahmin_Gujarat+Yemenite_Jew
    22.0 Luo
    1.4 Esan_Nigeria


    That's the exact ratio as my Ancestry SAPDA analysis (21%). I dont wanna derail this thread though but imma update my thread slowly slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaYamamoto View Post
    Yes and no...its an issue of max likelihood n been driving me crazy until recently when I got my Ancestry results and their range feature sorta given me a resolution(18%). Max likelihood either erases my dad's African ancestry or amalgamates both great-granny's into a smaller portion, I talked bwt it here.

    Creating a ghost of 'known' ancestries or closest proximate individual instead of overfitting with a buncha diff pops. is in keeping with both Ancestry max range and SAPDA which I can't recommend enough:


    Target: yams_ancestry
    Distance: 2.5942% / 0.02594191
    79.0 Brahmin_Gujarat+Yemenite_Jew
    21.0 Luo

    Target: yams_23andme
    Distance: 3.2952% / 0.03295241
    76.6 Brahmin_Gujarat+Yemenite_Jew
    22.0 Luo
    1.4 Esan_Nigeria


    That's the exact ratio as my Ancestry SAPDA analysis (21%). I dont wanna derail this thread though but imma update my thread slowly slowly.
    How can this be possible? Are you poundthoseeyams or something? I don't want to be off-topic here, but scoring basal African components in the 1-2% range you cannot have as much as 18-22% SSA. Even if Villabruna and Basal Eurasian acted as proxies for SSA in your case, considering you seem to be predominantly South Asian, you have around what drobbah said in my opinion. If you have actual Villabruna and Basal Eurasian then your SSA is 5-6%. I have a great interest in your results, they are fascinating, I can run qpAdm models for you if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    From which part of north africa are you from exactly ?
    Marseille....
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    Y Dna: E-M81-->CTS12227-->BY8900 : The oldest M81 known are Guanches 2000 BP
    MtDna: I3a1 : The oldest I3a1 known is VK164, Viking from Oxford, UK, 880-1000 CE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Caius Agrippa View Post
    How can this be possible? Are you poundthoseeyams or something? I don't want to be off-topic here, but scoring basal African components in the 1-2% range you cannot have as much as 18-22% SSA. Even if Villabruna and Basal Eurasian acted as proxies for SSA in your case, considering you seem to be predominantly South Asian, you have around what drobbah said in my opinion. If you have actual Villabruna and Basal Eurasian then your SSA is 5-6%. I have a great interest in your results, they are fascinating, I can run qpAdm models for you if you want.
    I don't wanna derail K33s dope calculator/thread so if you wanna hop in here we can discuss it , appreciate your interest ! I wouldn't think its possible too, but this isn't about confirming or rejecting a hypothesis - its more about me trynna validate what I know. Hopefully we can chop it up in my other thread.

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    Target: Kulin_scaled
    Distance: 1.8786% / 0.01878554
    72.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    7.0 Malaysia_LN_2550BP
    5.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    4.0 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    3.6 Sino-Tibetan
    3.0 Caspian
    2.2 TWN_Hanben_3400BP
    1.2 Baltic_LTU_Narva
    0.8 Ancient_Arabian

    Distance to: Kulin_scaled
    0.07614475 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    0.14846972 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    0.27870616 Caspian
    0.30043140 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    0.31013813 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.31369785 JPN_Jomon_3800BP
    0.34780169 RUS_Kolyma_Meso_9800BP
    0.39716236 POL_Globular_Amphora
    0.39781813 Malaysia_LN_2550BP
    0.40063876 Sino-Tibetan
    0.41207358 TUR_Barcin_N
    0.41581850 Ancient_Arabian
    0.43534367 TWN_Hanben_3400BP
    0.43640502 RUS_Boisman_MN_7000BP
    0.46293625 Baltic_LTU_Narva
    0.48130558 Nganassan
    0.51565500 ITA_Villabruna
    0.69400058 Papuan
    0.79003692 Pre-Pastoralist
    0.81108883 Ancestral_N_African
    0.99849107 Basal_East_African
    1.09197712 Basal_Central-West_African
    1.09837986 Basal_South_African
    1.16266946 Basal_West_African
    1.21318885 Basal_Central-East_African

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    Target: Varun_scaled
    Distance: 2.9514% / 0.02951381

    72.4 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    14.8 Caspian
    6.2 POL_Globular_Amphora
    5.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    1.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    0.4 Basal_South_African

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    Target: Sapporo_scaled
    Distance: 4.0681% / 0.04068146
    47.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    24.2 Caspian
    17.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    3.4 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    3.2 Ancient_Arabian
    pegasus modeling:
    sample": "Punjabi_Jat:Sapporo_AGUser",
    "fit": 1.1506,
    "IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3": 43.33,
    "TKM_Gonur1_BA": 31.67,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 25,
    "closestDistances": [

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