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Thread: Experimental K12 "Deep" Calculator for Africans and West Eurasians

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    I added x0.25

    Distance: 2.6837% / 0.02683746 | ADC: 0.25x

    30.2 Ancient_Arabian
    22.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
    11.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    11.0 Caspian
    9.6 Ancestral_N_African
    7.0 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    5.0 Basal_West_African
    3.0 Basal_East_African

    Strange results

    Let’s replace it with Yemenite mahra

    Distance: 2.7700% / 0.02770042 | ADC: 0.25x
    37.6 Yemenite_Mahra
    27.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
    10.2 Ancestral_N_African
    6.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    6.0 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    5.6 Basal_West_African
    3.4 Caspian
    2.6 Basal_East_African
    Last edited by maroco; 09-18-2020 at 11:23 AM.

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    Great Lakes Pastoralists: Tutsi/Hima

    Target: Mulenge_RDC_scaled
    Distance: 2.4146% / 0.02414646
    36.8 Basal_East_African
    28.6 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    21.0 Levant_Natufian
    5.6 Basal_West_African
    3.2 Ancestral_N_African
    1.6 Basal_South_African
    1.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    1.2 Basal_Central-West_African
    0.6 Basal_Central-East_African


    Target: Hima_Uganda_scaled
    Distance: 1.8836% / 0.01883567
    37.8 Basal_East_African
    29.6 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    21.8 Levant_Natufian
    5.2 Basal_West_African
    2.6 Pre_Pastoralist
    1.8 Basal_South_African
    0.6 Ancestral_N_African
    0.6 Basal_Central-West_African

    Target: Hima1_Uganda_scaled
    Distance: 2.8618% / 0.02861751
    31.6 Basal_East_African
    28.0 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    17.0 Levant_Natufian
    12.2 Basal_West_African
    4.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    3.6 Basal_Central-West_African
    2.6 Ancestral_N_African
    0.8 Basal_South_African
    0.2 Basal_Central-East_African

    Target: Burundi2_scaled
    Distance: 2.1650% / 0.02165015
    40.8 Basal_East_African
    33.4 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    16.4 Levant_Natufian
    4.4 Basal_West_African
    2.0 Basal_South_African
    1.8 Ancestral_N_African
    1.0 Basal_Central-West_African
    0.2 Basal_Central-East_African

    Target: Burundi_Des_scaled
    Distance: 1.7266% / 0.01726602
    42.6 Basal_East_African
    33.0 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    17.6 Ancient_Arabian
    4.4 Basal_West_African
    0.8 Ancestral_N_African
    0.8 Basal_Central-West_African
    0.4 Basal_Central-East_African
    0.4 Pre_Pastoralist



    Target: Rac_Rda_scaled
    Distance: 2.4559% / 0.02455888
    36.6 Basal_East_African
    31.6 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    15.4 Ancient_Arabian
    7.8 Basal_West_African
    3.0 Ancestral_N_African
    1.6 Basal_Central-West_African
    1.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    1.4 Pre_Pastoralist
    0.6 Basal_South_African
    0.4 Caspian

    Target: Gash_Rda__scaled
    Distance: 2.1941% / 0.02194062
    36.6 Basal_East_African
    32.0 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    12.4 Levant_Natufian
    4.2 Basal_West_African
    3.6 Basal_Central-West_African
    3.2 Ancient_Arabian
    2.8 Ancestral_N_African
    2.6 Pre_Pastoralist
    1.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.8 Basal_South_African
    0.6 TUR_Barcin_N

    Target: Gishom_Rda_scaled
    Distance: 2.2416% / 0.02241552
    39.8 Basal_East_African
    27.4 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    19.2 Levant_Natufian
    5.6 Basal_West_African
    2.4 Ancestral_N_African
    2.2TUR_Barcin_N
    1.2 Basal_South_African
    1.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    1.0 Basal_Central-West_African
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    Was bored so decided to add basal Eurasian and African to some models
    Distance: 1.0737% / 0.01073659
    30.2 Early_European_Farmer
    24.2 Iberomaurusian
    10.6 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    9.8 Iran_Neolithic
    8.6 Basal_West_African
    6.2 Basal_Eurasian
    6.2 Steppe_Pastoralist
    2.4 Ancient_Iberian_Hunter-Gatherer
    1.8 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic

    Without Iranian samples:
    Distance: 1.6469% / 0.01646916
    29.6 Early_European_Farmer
    24.0 Iberomaurusian
    12.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
    9.6 Ancient_Iberian_Hunter-Gatherer
    9.2 Basal_West_African
    6.8 Basal_Eurasian
    4.2 Caucasus_Hunter-gatherer
    2.6 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    2.0 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic
    Last edited by maroco; 09-28-2020 at 05:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Yeah but check the difference, the Basal Eurasian only absorbed 2% while the 11% Natufian almost totally disappeared. Why is that so?
    It increased my iberomaurusian by a lot, when I removed Levantine natufian after using these components I noticed little difference in distance, which means natufian absorbs part of the ibero for certain North Africans

    Here is a Libyan for example with a good amount of Ibero after adding Basal Eurasian and removing natufian

    Target: Libyan:LIB11
    Distance: 1.9974% / 0.01997362
    32.4 Early_European_Farmer
    21.8 Iberomaurusian
    15.6 Iran_Neolithic
    11.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    6.0 Basal_Eurasian
    5.2 Basal_West_African
    3.6 Ancient_Iberian_Hunter-Gatherer
    2.0 Africa_Mesolithic
    1.6 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic

    Without basal Eurasian and with Levantine to see the difference his ibero deceased
    Target: Libyan:LIB11
    Distance: 2.1564% / 0.02156398
    33.4 Early_European_Farmer
    22.4 Early_Levantine_Farmer
    18.2 Iberomaurusian
    14.8 Iran_Neolithic
    4.6 Basal_West_African
    3.6 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    2.0 Africa_Mesolithic
    1.0 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic
    Last edited by maroco; 09-28-2020 at 06:12 PM.

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    Target: RobertR_scaled
    Distance: 3.3157% / 0.03315743
    34.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    18.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    16.4 Caspian
    16.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
    12.0 Ancient_Arabian
    1.2 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    1.2 Pre-Pastoralist
    0.8 Papuan

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    Target: jkotl0327_scaled_Lower_Refs_Removed
    Distance: 3.1767% / 0.03176723
    50.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    21.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    13.4 Caspian
    12.2 Ancient_Arabian
    2.6 Ancestral_N_African
    0.2 Basal_Central-West_African


    Target: jkotl0327_scaled
    Distance: 3.1324% / 0.03132370
    50.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    20.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    13.0 Caspian
    12.2 Ancient_Arabian
    2.6 Ancestral_N_African
    0.8 TWN_Hanben_3400BP
    0.2 Malaysia_LN_2550BP
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    East_Med 39.85
    West_Med 20.41
    North_Atlantic 12.84
    West_Asian 9.90
    Baltic 7.64
    Red_Sea 5.56
    East_Asian 1.25
    Northeast_African 1.04

    Father 23andMe 5.9:
    100% Ashkenazi Jewish

    Mother 23andMe 5.9:
    98.4% Ashkenazi Jewish
    0.5% Iranian, Caucasian, Mesopotamian
    0.5% Levantine
    0.2% Coptic Egyptian
    0.2% Sudanese
    0.2% Ethiopian & Eritrean

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    This is my first run with the suggested samples removed for Africans and near easterners:

    Distance: 1.5063% / 0.01506317
    Target: maroco
    34.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    17.9 Ancient_Arabian
    12.5 Ancestral_N_African
    9.3 Caspian
    6.5 ITA_Villabruna
    6.2 Basal_West_African
    6.1 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    4.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    2.0 Pre-Pastoralist
    1.4 Basal_East_African

    This is the second run with basal Eurasian:

    Distance: 1.4578% / 0.01457780
    Target: maroco
    32.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    14.2 ITA_Villabruna
    12.7 Ancestral_N_African
    10.7 Caspian
    7.4 Ancient_Arabian
    7.1 Basal_West_African
    6.8 RUS_Ust_Ishim
    3.7 Basal_Eurasian
    2.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    1.3 Basal_East_African
    1.0 Pre-Pastoralist
    Distance: 1.3659% / 0.01365938
    64.2 Berber
    22.2 Southern_Levant
    10.0 WestAfrican_Yoruba
    2.4 Levantine
    0.8 Cushitic
    0.4 Basque_Spanish

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    I haven't done this one. I've only included myself and my father.

    Myself:

    Distance: 3.0193% / 0.03019252
    55.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
    43.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    0.4 Papuan

    Father:

    Distance: 2.6029% / 0.02602918
    49.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
    46.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    2.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    2.2 Ancient_Arabian
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    Target: Fa_scaled
    Distance: 3.0627% / 0.03062671
    66.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    23.4 Caspian
    4.8 Ancient_Arabian
    3.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    1.8 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    0.2 Malaysia_LN_2550BP

    Target: Iq_scaled
    Distance: 2.7663% / 0.02766259
    66.8 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    17.2 Caspian
    8.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    3.2 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    1.8 Sino-Tibetan
    1.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.8 Baltic_LTU_Narva

    Target: Shan_scaled
    Distance: 3.1322% / 0.03132159
    66.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    19.2 Caspian
    6.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    4.4 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    3.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

    Target: I_Malik_scaled
    Distance: 3.9471% / 0.03947064
    50.4 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    33.8 Caspian
    6.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.0 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    3.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    2.0 Ancient_Arabian
    0.2 POL_Globular_Amphora

    Target: G_Aslscaled
    Distance: 4.5663% / 0.04566336
    49.8 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    31.8 Caspian
    8.6 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    5.4 Ancient_Arabian
    4.4 TUR_Barcin_N

    Target: C_Sarwar_scaled
    Distance: 4.3127% / 0.04312740
    44.2 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    39.6 Caspian
    9.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
    5.4 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    0.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.4 Ancient_Arabian

    Target: B_Noor_scaled
    Distance: 3.3338% / 0.03333844
    48.0 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    34.2 Caspian
    5.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    3.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
    3.4 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    1.2 Ancient_Arabian
    0.2 Malaysia_LN_2550BP

    Target: bro_scaled
    Distance: 3.8411% / 0.03841060
    51.4 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    28.4 Caspian
    8.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    8.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    3.4 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    0.4 POL_Globular_Amphora

    Target: mother_scaled
    Distance: 3.8701% / 0.03870098
    49.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    31.8 Caspian
    12.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    3.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    2.4 Ancient_Arabian
    0.8 KAZ_Botai_5200BP

    Target: sis2_scaled
    Distance: 3.9329% / 0.03932918
    51.2 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    30.6 Caspian
    9.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    5.6 POL_Globular_Amphora
    1.6 Ancient_Arabian
    0.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    0.4 KAZ_Botai_5200BP

    Target: sis1_scaled
    Distance: 4.3285% / 0.04328505
    50.8 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    30.2 Caspian
    10.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    5.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    2.8 KAZ_Botai_5200BP

    Target: Merry_scaled
    Distance: 3.8962% / 0.03896239
    49.8 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    29.6 Caspian
    8.0 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    5.4 Ancient_Arabian
    4.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    2.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.8 TWN_Hanben_3400BP

    Target: Ameer_Khan_scaled
    Distance: 4.5274% / 0.04527372
    47.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    34.0 Caspian
    11.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.0 Ancient_Arabian
    1.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    1.2 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    0.4 Ancestral_N_African

    Target: father_scaled
    Distance: 4.5773% / 0.04577345
    52.0 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    29.6 Caspian
    8.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    5.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.2 KAZ_Botai_5200BP

    Target: AmbareenR_scaled
    Distance: 3.9648% / 0.03964799
    51.4 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    27.2 Caspian
    13.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    6.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    1.2 KAZ_Botai_5200BP
    0.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroco View Post
    It increased my iberomaurusian by a lot, when I removed Levantine natufian after using these components I noticed little difference in distance, which means natufian absorbs part of the ibero for certain North Africans

    Here is a Libyan for example with a good amount of Ibero after adding Basal Eurasian and removing natufian

    Target: Libyan:LIB11
    Distance: 1.9974% / 0.01997362
    32.4 Early_European_Farmer
    21.8 Iberomaurusian
    15.6 Iran_Neolithic
    11.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    6.0 Basal_Eurasian
    5.2 Basal_West_African
    3.6 Ancient_Iberian_Hunter-Gatherer
    2.0 Africa_Mesolithic
    1.6 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic

    Without basal Eurasian and with Levantine to see the difference his ibero deceased
    Target: Libyan:LIB11
    Distance: 2.1564% / 0.02156398
    33.4 Early_European_Farmer
    22.4 Early_Levantine_Farmer
    18.2 Iberomaurusian
    14.8 Iran_Neolithic
    4.6 Basal_West_African
    3.6 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    2.0 Africa_Mesolithic
    1.0 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic
    That Libyan sample has the third most Berber ancestry (guanche-like) among the Libyan samples

    Target: Libyan:LIB11
    Distance: 2.5457% / 0.02545709
    55.6 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    25.6 Egyptian
    15.6 BedouinB
    1.6 Sudanese
    1.6 Yoruba

    Target: Drobbah_scaled
    Distance: 4.3643% / 0.04364328
    53.4 Dinka
    39.4 Levant_Natufian
    4.2 Levant_Megiddo_MLBA
    3.0 ETH_4500BP


    Target: Drobbah_scaled
    Distance: 1.3967% / 0.01396717 | R7P
    27.2 TZA_PN
    22.4 KEN_Pastoral_N
    21.1 KEN_Pastoral_IA
    13.9 KEN_LuKENHill_3500BP
    10.2 KEN_HyraxHill_2300BP
    3.0 EGY_Hellenistic
    2.2 KAZ_Karluk



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