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    A New YDNA Heatmap

    For those who may have missed it, Hunter Provyn & Thomas Krahn (of YSEQ) have released a new YDNA Heatmap. It’s based on YFull’s tree, so keep that in mind when entering your information. For example: Z140


    Y Heatmap
    A Relative Frequency Map for Y Haplogroups
    Developed by Hunter Provyn and Thomas Krahn


    https://phylogeographer.com/scripts/...8OnStPE9l4S19s


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    Last edited by JMcB; 08-14-2020 at 02:15 AM.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Yeah, since it is based on YSEQ data and the majority of Iberian clade R1b testers are from the Iberian Islands I get this:



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    Last edited by Luso; 08-14-2020 at 01:03 AM.

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    So what do you think? This is P312>DF19>>R-Z17112.
    Probably not Gaul...

    yheatmapz17112.JPG
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    So what do you think? This is P312>DF19>>R-Z17112.
    Probably not Gaul...

    yheatmapz17112.JPG
    Of course, it all depends on the data. If your area of YFull's tree is fairly well represented than it’s probably a decent approximation. If not, not so much. Plus, there’s so much data that still missing, even if your branch is well represented. For example, there are probably more I1s in Germany than anywhere else. Yet Germany is woefully under represented, when it comes to testing. Likewise, with France and the Low Countries. So all of that data is missing. As for R1b, I can’t speak but from what I’ve heard, many of them haven’t uploaded to YFull because they’ve had Alex & Iain to do their analysis. So that has to be taken into consideration.
    Last edited by JMcB; 08-14-2020 at 02:06 PM.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Of course, it all depends on the data. If your area of YFull's tree is fairly well represented than it’s probably a decent approximation. If not, not so much. Plus, there’s so much data that still missing, even if your branch is well represented. For example, there are probably more I1s in Germany than anywhere else. Yet Germany is woefully under represented, when it comes to testing. Likewise, with France and the Low Countries. So all of that data is missing. As for R1b, I can’t speak but from what I’ve heard, many of them haven’t uploaded to YFull because they’ve had Alex & Iain to do their analysis. So that has to be taken into consideration.
    Yeah, there are only about 900 DF19s in the FTDNA blocktree, 477 members in the DF19 Group, and far, far fewer in the Big Tree and Yfull.
    It's frustrating in that one of my closest matches is a Dutch kit only on Yfull (all my other matches are German) and only answered one mesage then went dark.

    Here's DF88. It adds Norway to the Z17112 group's Germany/Sweden/Danelaw displayed above.
    DF88 is the parent of 2/3 or 3/4 of surviving DF19 subclades (582 out of 931 people in Blocktree), and is old enough to be Beaker-era:
    yheatmapdf88.JPG
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 08-14-2020 at 03:13 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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