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    Quote Originally Posted by heksindhi View Post
    This individual is almost certainly Baloch (mostly). The HGDP Baloch/Brahui samples are somewhat misleading in that they don't adequately reflect the diversity of Baloch outside the core populated Balochistan regions of Sarawan/Jahlwan/Kharan/Makran.
    These regions have been populated since at least the Bronze age, and given that the HGDP samples are entirely from these regions, their genetic signature is skewed somewhat to the underlying base 'Gedrosian' ancestry. The Baloch outside these core regions are probably a better gauge of modern Baloch genetic structure. Keep in mind that the population of Baloch outside Balochistan far exceeds that within its boundaries. Possibly by a factor of 2X to 4X.

    Unfortunately I only have simulated G25 coordinates, but here are a few results for some Baloch from Southern Sindh

    Sample Fit Brahui Kurdish Yemenite Al Bayda
    SindhiBaloch4-sim 0.65 82.5 10.5 7
    SindhiBaloch6-sim 1.81 78.5 19 2.5
    SindhiBaloch3-sim 0.91 78 17 5
    Iranian ► 11AM187 1.63 73.5 22 4.5
    Wow I didn't know that, great to know. So I'll keep them labeled as Iranian_Baloch then. I'm assuming Kurdish then in these better fitting/more representative Baloch is an ancestral indication of the proto-Baloch considering its a NW-Iranian language right? Never realised the current HGDP groups were off like that, maybe I'll relabel em Gedrosian or something.

    Have you considered g25? Would be really interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaYamamoto View Post
    Wow I didn't know that, great to know. So I'll keep them labeled as Iranian_Baloch then. I'm assuming Kurdish then in these better fitting/more representative Baloch is an ancestral indication of the proto-Baloch considering its a NW-Iranian language right?
    I'm using Kurdish as a stand-in for west Iranian/Iranian plateau ancestry. NW Iranian languages are found across the southern Caspian and its more likely that the proto-Baloch originate from the southern/eastern Caspian region. My intention was not to suggest actual Kurdish ancestry for these samples, but rather that the HGDP Baloch have lower levels of plateau ancestry compared to the Baloch samples I've come across from outside Balochistan. A lot of the Baloch from Sindh and Multan/Derajat have Sindhi/Seraiki admixture, but nonetheless, they still fit this pattern of elevated plateau ancestry(relatively speaking).

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    Quote Originally Posted by heksindhi View Post
    I'm using Kurdish as a stand-in for west Iranian/Iranian plateau ancestry. NW Iranian languages are found across the southern Caspian and its more likely that the proto-Baloch originate from the southern/eastern Caspian region. My intention was not to suggest actual Kurdish ancestry for these samples, but rather that the HGDP Baloch have lower levels of plateau ancestry compared to the Baloch samples I've come across from outside Balochistan. A lot of the Baloch from Sindh and Multan/Derajat have Sindhi/Seraiki admixture, but nonetheless, they still fit this pattern of elevated plateau ancestry(relatively speaking).
    Yeah I got that, obviously its just a proxy as it was in my model. The language itself must have come from a plateau-like group rather than the heavy Iran_N/Gedrosian that Baloch exhibit today, though. Is there any relation between Bandaris and the umbrella Baloch to your knowledge? I now share my largest segments on FTDNA with two Bandari ladies, one an expert in the Sultanate of Hormuz, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaYamamoto View Post
    Yeah I got that, obviously its just a proxy as it was in my model. The language itself must have come from a plateau-like group rather than the heavy Iran_N/Gedrosian that Baloch exhibit today, though. Is there any relation between Bandaris and the umbrella Baloch to your knowledge? I now share my largest segments on FTDNA with two Bandari ladies, one an expert in the Sultanate of Hormuz, apparently.
    They're part of the same continuum. Bandar Abbas has always had a large Baloch population historically, and I have no doubt that at least some Bandari are assimilated Baloch. This is particularly true for Shia Baloch(yes, they exist...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaYamamoto View Post
    Yeah I got that, obviously its just a proxy as it was in my model. The language itself must have come from a plateau-like group rather than the heavy Iran_N/Gedrosian that Baloch exhibit today, though. Is there any relation between Bandaris and the umbrella Baloch to your knowledge? I now share my largest segments on FTDNA with two Bandari ladies, one an expert in the Sultanate of Hormuz, apparently.
    Bandaris are a mix of multiple different sources. Balochis, arabs and in some cases east african. Afro Iranians live in and around the southern coast, amongst bandaris. Their diverse admixtures seems to shift them away from main land Iranians, pretty far from what I've seen on distances. Balochis are less diverse than bandaris but are also shifted towards south asia. They definitely cluster amongst their own but are closer to each other than to rest of Iran. Bandari is an umbrella term, it's very diverse, bandar Abbas was a major international trading hub for several iranian dynasties. Many different groups, mainly arabs and afro Iranians have settled in those areas
     

    Target: Xeon_scaled
    Distance: 2.7735% / 0.02773461

    33.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    20.6 Levant_PPNC
    18.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    14.4 GEO_CHG
    13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

    Target: Xeon_scaled
    Distance: 2.2807% / 0.02280652

    37.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    24.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    17.4 Levant_PPNB
    11.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    4.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    1.4 Nganassan
    0.6 MAR_Taforalt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon View Post
    Bandaris are a mix of multiple different sources. Balochis, arabs and in some cases east african. Afro Iranians live in and around the southern coast, amongst bandaris. Their diverse admixtures seems to shift them away from main land Iranians, pretty far from what I've seen on distances. Balochis are less diverse than bandaris but are also shifted towards south asia. They definitely cluster amongst their own but are closer to each other than to rest of Iran. Bandari is an umbrella term, it's very diverse, bandar Abbas was a major international trading hub for several iranian dynasties. Many different groups, mainly arabs and afro Iranians have settled in those areas
    Ahh I see, yeah they seem like a very diverse bunch. My own match claims 2 Bandari parents but emigrated to Oman [Al-Kamaali]. I'll run a admixture test on our shared segments see what pops up. From the newer set of Bandaris on the g25, around half seem to have plateau ancestry, the others don't [seems to be Baloch + Arab+ Indian+African etc]. Thought I should add that upon extensive review of these guys, due to having a big affinity with them, the Afro admixture in Iranians can only sometimes be particularly West-African i.e. non-Bantu instead of East-African. The one non-Bandari admixed Iranian [~9%] [generic plateau] has specifically Nigerian ancestry - I've tested this sample extensively. It lends credence to there being a network of trader outposts bringing in peoples from as far as the Bight of Benin. I've got a graphic somewhere that highlights this. But I've gone off on a tangent.

    Is this sample not Bandari then? :

    Target: Iranian_(SSA-Mixed_Profile):14AQ60
    Distance: 1.9066% / 0.01906594 | R3P
    71.0 Kurdish
    19.4 Turkish_Southwest
    9.6 Calabar_Niger-Cameroon


    These are the Bandari that seem to have Persian/Plateau ancestry to my eye but I don't know to what degree Mazandarani or Azeri Turkey represents that adequately. Note that African scores are probably inflated due to pop. restriction. Am unsure about the individual that scores 'Mountain Jew'.

    edit: the Mountain Jew individual is non-plateau admixed, Palestinian takes over if removed.

    Code:
    Target: Iranian_(Bandari_Profile):9AM185
    Distance: 1.6320% / 0.01632045 | R3P
    56.2	Makrani
    27.6	Azeri_Turkey
    16.2	Iranian_Mazandarani
    
    
    Target: Iranian_(Bandari_Profile):3AQ112
    Distance: 2.8587% / 0.02858657 | R3P
    62.8	Balochi
    33.6	Azeri_Turkey
    3.6	Esan_Nigeria
    
    
    Target: Iranian_(Bandari_Profile):15AQ111
    Distance: 2.1576% / 0.02157583 | R3P
    45.2	Iranian_Mazandarani
    43.8	Parsi_India
    11.0	Luhya_Kenya
    
    
    Target: Iranian_(Bandari_Profile):14AQ111
    Distance: 1.8866% / 0.01886582 | R3P
    50.2	Iranian_Mazandarani
    43.8	Makrani
    6.0	Manyika
    
    
    Target: Iranian_(Bandari_Profile):13AQ111
    Distance: 2.0688% / 0.02068811 | R3P
    53.8	Balochi
    38.6	Azeri_Turkey
    7.6	Cameroon_Bangwa
    
    
    Target: Iranian_(Bandari_Profile):10AM187
    Distance: 2.2686% / 0.02268595 | R3P
    64.6	Brahui
    27.4	Mountain_Jew
    8.0	Mali_BAMBARA
    
    
    Target: Iranian_(Bandari_Profile):1AQ112
    Distance: 2.3323% / 0.02332264 | R3P
    61.8	Iranian_Mazandarani
    32.4	Balochi
    5.8	Ronga
    
    Target: Iranian_Bandari:BanII38
    Distance: 2.0015% / 0.02001491 | R3P
    75.4	Iranian_Mazandarani
    21.2	Makrani
    3.4	Manyika
    
    
    Target: Iranian_Bandari:BanII80
    Distance: 1.7557% / 0.01755723 | R3P
    60.2	Balochi
    35.4	Azeri_Turkey
    4.4	Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
    
    
    Target: Iranian_Bandari:BanII4
    Distance: 2.2412% / 0.02241247 | R3P
    47.4	Brahui
    43.8	Iranian_Mazandarani
    8.8	Ethiopian_Agaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaYamamoto View Post
    Target: Iranian_(SSA-Mixed_Profile):14AQ60
    Distance: 1.9066% / 0.01906594 | R3P
    71.0 Kurdish
    19.4 Turkish_Southwest
    9.6 Calabar_Niger-Cameroon
    This sample doesn't fit the bandari classification at all. The base ancestry of bandaris is primarily balochi which in itself is quite distant from plateau Iranians. So kurdish and turkish south western would be outliers for this population. The nigerian is interesting but like I said, anything is possible, southern Iran is very diverse. This individual could be a western iranian with an afro iranian great grandparent or something along that line.

    These things happen due to internal migration all the time. Iranians marry outside of their own ethnic communities all the time.

    Also, mountain jews are iranian jews from the Caucasus. They are still pretty close to Iranians but have a levant shift due to their jewish ancestry. So mountain jew can be used as a proxy for Iranians with semitic admixtures
    Last edited by Xeon; 02-26-2021 at 08:27 PM.
     

    Target: Xeon_scaled
    Distance: 2.7735% / 0.02773461

    33.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    20.6 Levant_PPNC
    18.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    14.4 GEO_CHG
    13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

    Target: Xeon_scaled
    Distance: 2.2807% / 0.02280652

    37.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    24.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    17.4 Levant_PPNB
    11.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    4.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    1.4 Nganassan
    0.6 MAR_Taforalt

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    I'm an Turkish Alevi who's ancestors moved from Khorasan to Eastern Anatolia. My maternal side is from the Town of Tunceli and associated with Zazaki-Speakers. My paternal tribe is one of the founding tribes of the Safavid dynasty and has Turkish, Zazaki and Kirmanji speakers in what is today Turkey, Iran and the Republic of Azerbaijan.

    Ancient Scaled:

    Code:
    Distance to:	Aurelius_scaled
    0.03308915	IRN_Hasanlu_IA:F38
    0.04592700	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA:I2327
    0.04792243	ARM_Lchashen_MBA:DA35
    0.04862502	ARM_Lchashen_MBA:DA31
    0.04987803	RUS_Maykop_Late:MK5004
    0.05026045	UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o:I7493
    0.05415147	IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic:I1955
    0.05504871	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan:I1633
    0.05604330	ARM_Areni_C:I1407
    0.05614842	RUS_Maykop_Late:MK5001
    0.05637486	TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan:I12292
    0.05677861	ARM_MBA:I1656
    0.05700840	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan:I1635
    0.05803633	RUS_Alan_MA:DA162
    0.05832376	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Talin:I1658
    0.05958910	ARM_LBA:RISE397
    0.06132434	RUS_Maykop:OSS001
    0.06156074	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C:I4349
    0.06310021	Kura-Araxes_RUS_Velikent:VEK007-009
    0.06346851	Levant_Megiddo_MLBA_o2:I10100
    0.06495439	ARM_MBA:RISE423
    0.06525148	Levant_Megiddo_MLBA_o1:I2200
    0.06537279	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
    0.06683163	MNG_TUK001:TUK001
    0.06782402	TUR_Arslantepe_LC:ART018
    
    Target: Aurelius_scaled
    Distance: 1.2125% / 0.01212545 | R5P
    38.0	TUR_Alalakh_MLBA
    31.4	IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    18.0	RUS_Afanasievo
    9.6	GRC_Minoan_Odigitria_low_res
    3.0	MNG_Late_Med
    Ancient unscaled:

    Code:
    Distance to:	Aurelius
    0.01878617	IRN_Hasanlu_IA:F38
    0.02502958	MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN004
    0.02669494	ARM_Lchashen_MBA:DA35
    0.02728351	UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o:I7493
    0.02748854	ARM_Lchashen_MBA:DA31
    0.02927063	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
    0.02976642	MNG_Early_Med_Turk:TSB001
    0.02993493	ARM_MBA:I1656
    0.03042483	TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan:I12292
    0.03067165	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C:I4241
    0.03087523	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C:I4349
    0.03095400	ARM_Areni_C:I1407
    0.03107217	RUS_Alan_MA:DA162
    0.03108955	MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN005
    0.03137515	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan:I1635
    0.03141878	RUS_Maykop_Late:MK5004
    0.03150016	TUR_IA:MA2198
    0.03163037	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan:I1633
    0.03230263	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA:I2327
    0.03254243	KAZ_Kipchak:DA179
    0.03320075	RUS_Maykop_Late:MK5001
    0.03344667	MNG_TUK001:TUK001
    0.03376951	UZB_Sappali_Tepe2_BA:I7494
    0.03394658	TUR_Ottoman:MA2196
    0.03428804	TUR_Alalakh_MLBA:ALA018
    
    Target: Aurelius
    Distance: 0.6797% / 0.00679703 | R5P
    35.2	Levant_Beirut_ERoman
    25.6	TKM_Tepe_Anau_En
    19.8	TUR_Ikiztepe_LC
    14.8	RUS_Afanasievo
    4.6	CHN_Western_Liao_River_LN
    Modern Averages scaled:

    Code:
    Distance to:	Aurelius_scaled
    0.02775464	Talysh_Azerbaijan
    0.02778089	Kurdish
    0.03191692	Ezid
    0.03230691	Iranian_Zoroastrian
    0.03441549	Zaza_Dersim
    0.03641559	Iranian_Fars
    0.03739419	Iranian_Lor
    0.04112994	Iranian_Seyyed
    0.04182134	Turkish_East
    0.04199571	Azeri
    0.04307183	Azeri_Dagestan
    0.04584495	Iranian_Mazandarani
    0.04802680	Iranian_B
    0.05098058	Azeri_Turkey
    0.05420412	Turkish_Adana
    0.05430252	Georgian_Jew
    0.05563712	Turkish_Kayseri
    0.05592257	Mountain_Jew
    0.05644148	Assyrian
    0.05852285	Turkish_B
    0.06031700	Armenian
    0.06161620	Turkish_Central
    0.06232628	Iranian_Jew
    0.06247935	Kumyk
    0.06280635	Iraqi_B
    
    
    Target: Aurelius_scaled
    Distance: 2.4197% / 0.02419725
    75.0	Kurdish
    9.4	Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.4	Tabasaran
    5.2	Tarkalani
    2.2	Cossack_Kuban
    1.6	Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
    0.2	Han_Shanghai
    Modern averages unscaled:

    Code:
    Distance to:	Aurelius
    0.01790938	Kurdish
    0.01835598	Talysh_Azerbaijan
    0.02136314	Ezid
    0.02146699	Iranian_Zoroastrian
    0.02230311	Iranian_Fars
    0.02257493	Iranian_Seyyed
    0.02318262	Azeri
    0.02358936	Kurdish_Dersim
    0.02402995	Iranian_Lor
    0.02538573	Turkish_East
    0.02588403	Azeri_Dagestan
    0.02590917	Mountain_Jew
    0.02599766	Georgian_Jew
    0.02618166	Iranian_Mazandarani
    0.02683257	Assyrian
    0.02723727	Turkish_South
    0.02771664	Turkish_Adana
    0.02817912	Parsi_Pakistan
    0.02821394	Parsi_India
    0.02839085	Turkish_Southwest
    0.02938406	Turkish_Kayseri
    0.02942975	Armenian
    0.02995935	Iranian_Jew
    0.03020169	Turkish_Central
    0.03084936	Tajik
    
    Target: Aurelius
    Distance: 1.6489% / 0.01648863 | R5P
    78.8	Kurdish
    7.4	Tabasaran
    5.4	Tarkalani
    5.0	Cossack_Kuban
    3.4	Han_Shanghai

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    Quote Originally Posted by AureliusDNA View Post
    I'm an Turkish Alevi who's ancestors moved from Khorasan to Eastern Anatolia. My maternal side is from the Town of Tunceli and associated with Zazaki-Speakers. My paternal tribe is one of the founding tribes of the Safavid dynasty and has Turkish, Zazaki and Kirmanji speakers in what is today Turkey, Iran and the Republic of Azerbaijan.

    Ancient Scaled:

    Code:
    Distance to:	Aurelius_scaled
    0.03308915	IRN_Hasanlu_IA:F38
    0.04592700	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA:I2327
    0.04792243	ARM_Lchashen_MBA:DA35
    0.04862502	ARM_Lchashen_MBA:DA31
    0.04987803	RUS_Maykop_Late:MK5004
    0.05026045	UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o:I7493
    0.05415147	IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic:I1955
    0.05504871	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan:I1633
    0.05604330	ARM_Areni_C:I1407
    0.05614842	RUS_Maykop_Late:MK5001
    0.05637486	TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan:I12292
    0.05677861	ARM_MBA:I1656
    0.05700840	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan:I1635
    0.05803633	RUS_Alan_MA:DA162
    0.05832376	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Talin:I1658
    0.05958910	ARM_LBA:RISE397
    0.06132434	RUS_Maykop:OSS001
    0.06156074	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C:I4349
    0.06310021	Kura-Araxes_RUS_Velikent:VEK007-009
    0.06346851	Levant_Megiddo_MLBA_o2:I10100
    0.06495439	ARM_MBA:RISE423
    0.06525148	Levant_Megiddo_MLBA_o1:I2200
    0.06537279	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
    0.06683163	MNG_TUK001:TUK001
    0.06782402	TUR_Arslantepe_LC:ART018
    
    Target: Aurelius_scaled
    Distance: 1.2125% / 0.01212545 | R5P
    38.0	TUR_Alalakh_MLBA
    31.4	IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    18.0	RUS_Afanasievo
    9.6	GRC_Minoan_Odigitria_low_res
    3.0	MNG_Late_Med
    Ancient unscaled:

    Code:
    Distance to:	Aurelius
    0.01878617	IRN_Hasanlu_IA:F38
    0.02502958	MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN004
    0.02669494	ARM_Lchashen_MBA:DA35
    0.02728351	UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o:I7493
    0.02748854	ARM_Lchashen_MBA:DA31
    0.02927063	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
    0.02976642	MNG_Early_Med_Turk:TSB001
    0.02993493	ARM_MBA:I1656
    0.03042483	TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan:I12292
    0.03067165	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C:I4241
    0.03087523	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C:I4349
    0.03095400	ARM_Areni_C:I1407
    0.03107217	RUS_Alan_MA:DA162
    0.03108955	MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN005
    0.03137515	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan:I1635
    0.03141878	RUS_Maykop_Late:MK5004
    0.03150016	TUR_IA:MA2198
    0.03163037	Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan:I1633
    0.03230263	IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA:I2327
    0.03254243	KAZ_Kipchak:DA179
    0.03320075	RUS_Maykop_Late:MK5001
    0.03344667	MNG_TUK001:TUK001
    0.03376951	UZB_Sappali_Tepe2_BA:I7494
    0.03394658	TUR_Ottoman:MA2196
    0.03428804	TUR_Alalakh_MLBA:ALA018
    
    Target: Aurelius
    Distance: 0.6797% / 0.00679703 | R5P
    35.2	Levant_Beirut_ERoman
    25.6	TKM_Tepe_Anau_En
    19.8	TUR_Ikiztepe_LC
    14.8	RUS_Afanasievo
    4.6	CHN_Western_Liao_River_LN
    Modern Averages scaled:

    Code:
    Distance to:	Aurelius_scaled
    0.02775464	Talysh_Azerbaijan
    0.02778089	Kurdish
    0.03191692	Ezid
    0.03230691	Iranian_Zoroastrian
    0.03441549	Zaza_Dersim
    0.03641559	Iranian_Fars
    0.03739419	Iranian_Lor
    0.04112994	Iranian_Seyyed
    0.04182134	Turkish_East
    0.04199571	Azeri
    0.04307183	Azeri_Dagestan
    0.04584495	Iranian_Mazandarani
    0.04802680	Iranian_B
    0.05098058	Azeri_Turkey
    0.05420412	Turkish_Adana
    0.05430252	Georgian_Jew
    0.05563712	Turkish_Kayseri
    0.05592257	Mountain_Jew
    0.05644148	Assyrian
    0.05852285	Turkish_B
    0.06031700	Armenian
    0.06161620	Turkish_Central
    0.06232628	Iranian_Jew
    0.06247935	Kumyk
    0.06280635	Iraqi_B
    
    
    Target: Aurelius_scaled
    Distance: 2.4197% / 0.02419725
    75.0	Kurdish
    9.4	Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.4	Tabasaran
    5.2	Tarkalani
    2.2	Cossack_Kuban
    1.6	Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
    0.2	Han_Shanghai
    Modern averages unscaled:

    Code:
    Distance to:	Aurelius
    0.01790938	Kurdish
    0.01835598	Talysh_Azerbaijan
    0.02136314	Ezid
    0.02146699	Iranian_Zoroastrian
    0.02230311	Iranian_Fars
    0.02257493	Iranian_Seyyed
    0.02318262	Azeri
    0.02358936	Kurdish_Dersim
    0.02402995	Iranian_Lor
    0.02538573	Turkish_East
    0.02588403	Azeri_Dagestan
    0.02590917	Mountain_Jew
    0.02599766	Georgian_Jew
    0.02618166	Iranian_Mazandarani
    0.02683257	Assyrian
    0.02723727	Turkish_South
    0.02771664	Turkish_Adana
    0.02817912	Parsi_Pakistan
    0.02821394	Parsi_India
    0.02839085	Turkish_Southwest
    0.02938406	Turkish_Kayseri
    0.02942975	Armenian
    0.02995935	Iranian_Jew
    0.03020169	Turkish_Central
    0.03084936	Tajik
    
    Target: Aurelius
    Distance: 1.6489% / 0.01648863 | R5P
    78.8	Kurdish
    7.4	Tabasaran
    5.4	Tarkalani
    5.0	Cossack_Kuban
    3.4	Han_Shanghai
    What is your tribe name? Your results are typical Kurdish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon View Post
    Your J2a subclade seems to be a very common amongst some other Lur samples that I've seen, seems to be pretty common in western Iran. I wonder if other turkic speaking Qashqais are simply turkified in language. For example, some turks in Iran and azerbaijan can trace their kin to a Turkic tribe like the Afshars and even have Turkic haplogroups.
    Do you know of quite a few J2a Lur samples?

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