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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    JMcB, try to do a "targeted" run with these sources:

     
    Nordic_Germanic:vik_84001,0.0117,0.0124,0.0204,0.0 189,0.0134,0.0076,0.0011,0.0028,0.0001,-0.0066,-0.0006,0.0027,-0.0002,-0.0046,0.0133,0.01,0.0074,0.0013,-0.0006,0.0006,0.0019,0.0003,0.0042,0.0107,0.0012
    Nordic_Germanic:vik_stg021,0.011,0.0121,0.0173,0.0 165,0.0136,0.01,0.0024,0.0015,0.0025,-0.0014,-0.0044,0.0038,-0.0051,-0.0071,0.0094,-0.0067,-0.0138,0.0011,0.0056,0.005,-0.0016,0.0047,-0.0018,0.0034,0.0015
    Nordic_Germanic:vik_urm045,0.0114,0.0129,0.0224,0. 0243,0.0135,0.0074,-0.0019,0.0077,-0.0029,-0.0064,-0.0073,0.005,-0.0042,-0.0057,0.0153,-0.0038,-0.0117,-0.0042,0.0014,0.0064,0.0066,-0.0035,-0.0032,0.0044,-0.0102
    Nordic_Germanic:vik_urm161,0.0111,0.0117,0.0165,0. 019,0.0112,0.0077,0.0043,0.0051,-0.0023,-0.0036,-0.0023,0.0001,-0.0039,-0.0053,0.0106,0.0147,0.0149,0.004,0.0049,0.0163,0. 0072,0.0063,0.0007,0.0196,0.0047
    Nordic_Germanic:HSJ-A-1,0.0117,0.0127,0.0202,0.0196,0.0128,0.0085,0.003, 0.0026,0.0001,-0.0053,0.0039,0.003,-0.0073,-0.0154,0.0169,0.0148,0.003,0.0082,0.0058,0.006,0.0 081,0.007,-0.0048,0.0067,-0.0018
    Nordic_Germanic:VDP-A-5,0.0111,0.0122,0.0203,0.0192,0.0102,0.0065,0.0033 ,0.0033,0.0045,-0.0041,0.001,0.005,-0.0064,-0.0138,0.0189,0.017,0.0104,0.0038,0.0003,0.0023,0. 0038,0.0048,0.0017,0.0105,-0.0039
    Nordic_Germanic:VK390,0.0108,0.0127,0.0205,0.021,0 .0132,0.0101,0.0026,0.0034,0.0001,-0.0046,-0.0036,0.0009,-0.0077,-0.007,0.0219,0.0049,-0.0079,0.0062,0.0067,0.008,0.0136,0.0001,0.0009,0. 0074,0.0025
    Nordic_Germanic:VK391,0.0114,0.0139,0.0218,0.0197, 0.0154,0.0074,0.0058,0.0056,-0.0006,-0.0092,-0.0081,-0.0032,-0.0032,-0.0057,0.0149,0.0101,0.0036,0.0035,-0.0038,0.003,0.0046,-0.0015,-0.009,0.0119,0.0064
    Nordic_Germanic:VK522,0.0114,0.0129,0.02,0.021,0.0 175,0.0085,-0.0002,0.0043,0.0057,-0.0031,-0.0011,0.0019,-0.0032,-0.0041,0.0163,0.0036,-0.0045,0.0005,0.0032,0.007,0.0058,0.0045,-0.0044,0.0208,0.0016
    Nordic_Germanic:RISE174,0.0108,0.0122,0.0178,0.018 1,0.0134,0.0072,0.0025,0.0033,0.0014,-0.0053,0.0023,0.0013,-0.0047,0.0028,0.015,-0.0051,-0.0118,0.0051,0.0075,0.0002,0.0002,0.0023,0.002,0. 0095,0.0003
    Nordic_Germanic:VK523,0.0109,0.0125,0.0205,0.022,0 .0159,0.0083,-0.0007,0.0053,0.0033,-0.0101,-0.0002,0.0004,-0.0033,-0.0034,0.0158,0.01,-0.0025,-0.0018,0.0017,0.0016,0.0058,-0.0007,-0.0026,0.0001,0.0036
    North_West_Germanic:I0157,0.0114,0.0138,0.0175,0.0 183,0.0123,0.0071,0.0032,0.0033,0.0033,-0.0036,-0.004,0.006,-0.0062,-0.0084,0.0213,0.006,-0.0048,0.0002,0.0064,0.0078,0.0029,-0.0026,-0.0042,0.0213,-0.0024
    North_West_Germanic:I0769,0.0114,0.013,0.0188,0.01 84,0.0145,0.0093,0.0012,0.0024,0,-0.0037,-0.0038,0.0032,-0.0086,-0.009,0.0209,0.0135,0.0053,-0.0029,0.0049,0.0064,0.0066,0.0042,0.0003,0.0162,0 .0017
    North_West_Germanic:I0773,0.0124,0.0125,0.0168,0.0 221,0.0143,0.0087,0.0034,0.0049,0.002,-0.0036,-0.0033,0.0036,-0.0082,-0.0095,0.0156,0.0088,-0.0011,0.0007,0.0069,0.0069,0.0088,0.0032,-0.0025,0.0129,-0.0062
    North_West_Germanic:NO3423,0.0114,0.0132,0.0181,0. 0193,0.0129,0.0061,0.0019,0.0009,0.0006,-0.0039,-0.0048,0.001,-0.0073,-0.0076,0.0205,0.0042,-0.0109,0.0036,-0.0001,0.004,0.008,0.002,0.002,0.0126,0.0016
    Italy_North:RMPR120,0.0095,0.0151,0.0032,-0.012,0.0055,-0.0041,-0.002,-0.0046,0.0047,0.0127,-0.0001,0.0039,-0.0034,0.0003,-0.0073,-0.0034,-0.0092,0.0056,0.001,-0.0003,0.0003,0.0087,0.0017,-0.0033,0.0027
    Italy_North:RMPR121,0.0099,0.0149,0.0002,-0.0097,0.0068,-0.0026,0.001,-0.0016,0.0028,0.0135,-0.003,0.0072,-0.0065,0.0009,-0.0096,-0.0047,-0.0069,0,0.0061,-0.0072,0.0013,0,0.0049,0.0004,-0.0098
    Italy_North:I3313,0.0116,0.0149,0.009,-0.005,0.0081,-0.0021,-0.0027,0.0031,0.0018,0.0159,0.0011,0.0078,-0.0142,-0.001,-0.0044,-0.0064,-0.005,0.0039,0.0044,-0.0114,-0.0015,0.0041,0.0012,0.0021,0.0028
    Sicilian:RMPR122,0.009,0.0151,0.0001,-0.0138,0.0052,-0.0071,-0.001,0.0001,0.0024,0.0175,0.0019,0.0046,-0.0089,0.0046,-0.007,-0.0076,-0.0057,-0.006,0.0031,-0.0043,-0.001,-0.0045,0.0029,0.0048,0.0002
    Sicilian:RMPR1544,0.0098,0.0138,-0.0033,-0.0122,0.0021,-0.0079,-0.0017,-0.0006,0.0029,0.0071,0.0065,-0.0016,-0.0043,-0.0008,-0.0011,-0.0029,0.0023,0.0015,0.0032,-0.004,0.0034,0.0059,-0.0013,-0.0054,-0.0014
    Italy_south:VK534,0.0091,0.0137,-0.0017,-0.0141,0.0054,-0.0049,-0.0009,-0.0009,0.0029,0.0078,0.0002,-0.0015,-0.0013,-0.0017,-0.0055,0.0011,0.0062,-0.0008,0.0014,0.0015,-0.0014,0.0032,-0.0028,-0.0044,-0.0011
    Italy_south:VK535,0.0085,0.0134,-0.0021,-0.0099,0.0047,-0.0023,-0.0008,-0.0029,0.003,0.0136,0.0005,0.0001,-0.0034,0.0011,-0.0008,0.0046,-0.0011,0.001,-0.0008,-0.0061,-0.0046,-0.0003,0.0009,-0.01,-0.0019
    Italy_south:VK537,0.0087,0.0144,-0.0013,-0.0123,0.0038,-0.0058,0.0023,0.0023,0.0042,0.0102,0.0003,0.0031,-0.0008,-0.0031,-0.0047,-0.0019,0.0056,0.0024,0.0037,-0.0013,0.0028,-0.0018,-0.0044,-0.001,0.0044
    North_West_Celtic:3DT16,0.0111,0.0141,0.0174,0.017 7,0.0125,0.0076,0.0006,-0.0005,0.0041,0.0053,0.002,0.002,-0.0086,-0.0068,0.0104,0.0008,-0.0061,0.0024,0.0016,-0.0054,0.0047,0.0048,-0.0012,0.0066,-0.0004
    North_West_Celtic:6DT18,0.011,0.014,0.0155,0.0156, 0.015,0.0076,0.002,0.0037,-0.0004,0.0028,0.0003,0.0084,-0.0117,-0.0148,0.0176,0.0051,-0.0041,-0.0024,0.0099,0.0008,0.0064,0.0007,-0.0034,0.0115,-0.0028
    North_West_Celtic:6DT21,0.0111,0.0123,0.0163,0.014 8,0.009,0.005,0.0023,0.0043,-0.0011,-0.0005,-0.012,0.0084,-0.0077,-0.0056,0.0147,0.0046,-0.0064,-0.0031,0.0022,0.003,0.0018,0.001,0.003,0.0019,-0.0011
    North_West_Celtic:6DT22,0.011,0.0138,0.0162,0.0142 ,0.0126,0.0051,0.0021,0.0022,0.0015,0.0004,-0.003,0.0009,-0.0075,-0.0123,0.0118,0.0006,0.0005,0.0031,0.0049,0,0.0032 ,0.0044,-0.0093,-0.0001,-0.0003
    North_West_Celtic:6DT23,0.0111,0.0139,0.016,0.0144 ,0.0119,0.0034,0.0023,0.0035,0.0011,0.0008,-0.0053,0.0045,-0.0108,-0.0051,0.0228,-0.0029,-0.0145,0.0033,-0.0026,0.01,0.0036,-0.0033,-0.0085,0.0074,-0.0016
    North_West_Celtic:6DT3,0.0116,0.0132,0.0154,0.0157 ,0.0108,0.0104,0.0035,0.0015,0.0005,-0.0025,-0.0031,0.0035,-0.0115,-0.0043,0.0213,-0.0086,-0.018,0.0014,0.0025,0.0051,0.0086,0.0001,-0.0021,0.0092,0.0024
    North_West_Celtic:VK456,0.0107,0.0125,0.0173,0.018 1,0.0118,0.008,0.0011,-0.0003,0.0026,-0.0009,-0.0062,0.0028,-0.0135,-0.01,0.0182,0.0033,-0.0091,0.0025,-0.0042,0.0005,-0.0028,0.0038,-0.0018,0.0031,0.0036
    North_West_Celtic:VK63,0.0108,0.0134,0.0143,0.0129 ,0.0114,0.0053,0.0051,-0.0002,-0.0025,0.0035,-0.0068,0.005,-0.0131,-0.0117,0.0153,0.0053,-0.0076,0.0118,-0.0048,0.0079,0.0009,0.0137,0.003,0.0061,0.0067
    North_West_Celtic:VK450,0.0107,0.0138,0.0163,0.010 9,0.0153,0.0057,-0.0017,0.0011,0.0034,0.0071,0.0038,0.0043,-0.0063,-0.0046,0.0115,-0.0016,-0.0067,0.0107,0.008,0.0014,0.0046,0.0002,-0.0038,0.0158,-0.0054



    Thank you, Jerry! Very nice!


    Judging from the overall numbers the run with ADC 0.05 looks the best to me:



    Target: JMcB
    Distance: 0.8853% / 0.00885327 | ADC: 0.5x

    83.2 North_West_Celtic
    11.2 Nordic_Germanic
    4.0 Italy_south
    1.0 Sicilian
    0.6 Italy_North


    & Unaggregated:


    Target: JMcB
    Distance: 0.8853% / 0.00885327 | ADC: 0.5x

    58.8 North_West_Celtic:3DT16
    13.2 North_West_Celtic:6DT18
    11.2 Nordic_Germanic:VK390
    11.0 North_West_Celtic:6DT22
    2.6 Italy_south:VK537
    1.4 Italy_south:VK534
    1.0 Sicilian:RMPR122
    0.6 Italy_North:RMPR120
    0.2 North_West_Celtic:VK450



    Distance to: JMcB
    0.01237013 North_West_Celtic:3DT16
    0.01635084 North_West_Celtic:6DT22
    0.01835919 North_West_Celtic:6DT18
    0.01968350 North_West_Celtic:VK450
    0.02115940 North_West_Germanic:NO3423
    0.02120236 Nordic_Germanic:vik_stg021
    0.02144132 North_West_Celtic:6DT21
    0.02151929 North_West_Germanic:I0773
    0.02168271 North_West_Celtic:VK456
    0.02308593 Nordic_Germanic:VK390
    0.02411016 Nordic_Germanic:RISE174
    0.02544327 Nordic_Germanic:VK522
    0.02570272 Nordic_Germanic:VK523
    0.02571362 Nordic_Germanic:HSJ-A-1
    0.02571478 North_West_Celtic:6DT3



    And in case you want to see the other ones:



    Target: JMcB
    Distance: 0.7650% / 0.00765005 | ADC: 0.25x

    60.6 North_West_Celtic
    21.4 Nordic_Germanic
    6.2 Italy_North
    4.2 Sicilian
    4.0 Italy_south
    3.6 North_West_Germanic


    Target: JMcB
    Distance: 0.7400% / 0.00740000

    41.0 North_West_Celtic
    34.8 Nordic_Germanic
    10.6 Sicilian
    9.2 Italy_North
    4.4 North_West_Germanic
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Thank you, Jerry! Very nice!


    Judging from the overall numbers the run with ADC 0.05 looks the best to me:



    Target: JMcB
    Distance: 0.8853% / 0.00885327 | ADC: 0.5x

    83.2 North_West_Celtic
    11.2 Nordic_Germanic
    4.0 Italy_south
    1.0 Sicilian
    0.6 Italy_North


    & Unaggregated:


    Target: JMcB
    Distance: 0.8853% / 0.00885327 | ADC: 0.5x

    58.8 North_West_Celtic:3DT16
    13.2 North_West_Celtic:6DT18
    11.2 Nordic_Germanic:VK390
    11.0 North_West_Celtic:6DT22
    2.6 Italy_south:VK537
    1.4 Italy_south:VK534
    1.0 Sicilian:RMPR122
    0.6 Italy_North:RMPR120
    0.2 North_West_Celtic:VK450



    Distance to: JMcB
    0.01237013 North_West_Celtic:3DT16
    0.01635084 North_West_Celtic:6DT22
    0.01835919 North_West_Celtic:6DT18
    0.01968350 North_West_Celtic:VK450
    0.02115940 North_West_Germanic:NO3423
    0.02120236 Nordic_Germanic:vik_stg021
    0.02144132 North_West_Celtic:6DT21
    0.02151929 North_West_Germanic:I0773
    0.02168271 North_West_Celtic:VK456
    0.02308593 Nordic_Germanic:VK390
    0.02411016 Nordic_Germanic:RISE174
    0.02544327 Nordic_Germanic:VK522
    0.02570272 Nordic_Germanic:VK523
    0.02571362 Nordic_Germanic:HSJ-A-1
    0.02571478 North_West_Celtic:6DT3



    And in case you want to see the other ones:



    Target: JMcB
    Distance: 0.7650% / 0.00765005 | ADC: 0.25x

    60.6 North_West_Celtic
    21.4 Nordic_Germanic
    6.2 Italy_North
    4.2 Sicilian
    4.0 Italy_south
    3.6 North_West_Germanic


    Target: JMcB
    Distance: 0.7400% / 0.00740000

    41.0 North_West_Celtic
    34.8 Nordic_Germanic
    10.6 Sicilian
    9.2 Italy_North
    4.4 North_West_Germanic
    Thanks. your distances look good with and without the ADC adjustment. I read somewhere on these thread that unscaled results are preferred to be between 0.6 and 1.0 to avoid over fitting. according to your history the .5 ADC does look very good for you.

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    Target: Jessie_unscaled
    Distance: 0.5430% / 0.00542989 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    26.8 South_Germanic
    23.4 North_West_Celtic
    23.4 North_West_Germanic
    14.0 Central_Germanic
    7.2 Iberian
    5.2 Nordic_Germanic


    Target: Jessie_unscaled
    Distance: 0.5330% / 0.00533038
    26.4 South_Germanic
    23.6 North_West_Germanic
    23.0 North_West_Celtic
    13.0 Central_Germanic
    6.4 Iberian
    6.2 Nordic_Germanic
    1.0 Nepalese_Tibetan
    0.4 Africa_east

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    Target: Timberwolf
    Distance: 0.7685% / 0.00768534 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    47.8 North_West_Celtic
    22.6 South_Germanic
    15.2 Central_Germanic
    14.4 Iberian

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    Cornwall New Zealand
    Target: Timberwolf
    Distance: 0.7223% / 0.00722314 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    31.6 England_Roman_Briton
    24.2 DEU_Bavarian_Germanic
    18.6 ITA_Longobard_Germanic
    15.2 Iberian_French
    6.2 VK2020_Celtic_VA
    4.2 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE

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    Cornwall New Zealand
    Target: Timberwolf
    Distance: 0.7607% / 0.00760675 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    29.4 England_Roman
    19.4 ITA_Longobard
    19.2 DEU_Bavarian
    14.4 VK2020_Celtic_VA
    12.6 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    5.0 Iberia_Carolingian

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    Original calculator:

     
    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.2985% / 0.01298508 | ADC: 1x RC
    53.0 Central_Germanic
    47.0 VK2020_French_north_VA

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.0847% / 0.01084736 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    35.2 Nordic_Germanic
    21.2 Central_Germanic
    20.4 Iberian
    17.2 VK2020_French_north_VA
    6.0 Hunnic

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.0375% / 0.01037519 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    25.4 Iberian
    22.4 Nordic_Germanic
    22.2 North_West_Germanic
    11.0 Central_Germanic
    10.0 VK2020_French_north_VA
    4.6 Finnic
    3.6 Hunnic
    0.8 North_East_Siberia

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.0295% / 0.01029464
    32.8 Nordic_Germanic
    23.8 Iberian
    13.8 North_West_Celtic
    10.2 VK2020_French_north_VA
    7.6 North_West_Germanic
    3.4 Hunnic
    3.2 Baltic
    2.0 Central_Germanic
    1.8 Finnic
    1.4 North_East_Siberia


    Choosen populations:

     
    Target: Nino
    Distance: 2.1879% / 0.02187931 | ADC: 2x RC
    100.0 Nordic_Germanic

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.6274% / 0.01627440 | ADC: 1x RC
    69.8 Nordic_Germanic
    30.2 Balkan

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4922% / 0.01492156 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    75.4 Nordic_Germanic
    21.8 Italy_North
    2.8 Balkan

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4657% / 0.01465675 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    72.6 Nordic_Germanic
    22.6 Italy_North
    4.8 Finnic

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4657% / 0.01465675
    72.6 Nordic_Germanic
    22.6 Italy_North
    4.8 Finnic


    JerryS choosen:

     
    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.7047% / 0.01704704 | ADC: 1x RC
    51.0 Nordic_Germanic
    49.0 North_West_Celtic

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4503% / 0.01450254 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    52.4 Nordic_Germanic
    28.4 North_West_Celtic
    19.2 Italy_south

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4436% / 0.01443607 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.6 Nordic_Germanic
    24.2 North_West_Celtic
    13.4 Italy_south
    6.8 Italy_North

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4435% / 0.01443503
    56.4 Nordic_Germanic
    23.2 North_West_Celtic
    13.2 Italy_south
    7.2 Italy_North
    Hidden Content

    Eurogenes K13 Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    1. 63.1% Swedish + 36.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.93

    Dodecad K12b
    1. 87,89% Szolad3 + 12,11% CHV001_Chalmny_Varre_18th-19th @ 1,131
    7. 66.4% Norwegian + 33.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.24


     

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.5423% / 0.01542331
    55.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Norse
    36.6 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    8.4 FIN_Levanluhta_IA2


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  15. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Original calculator:

     
    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.2985% / 0.01298508 | ADC: 1x RC
    53.0 Central_Germanic
    47.0 VK2020_French_north_VA

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.0847% / 0.01084736 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    35.2 Nordic_Germanic
    21.2 Central_Germanic
    20.4 Iberian
    17.2 VK2020_French_north_VA
    6.0 Hunnic

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.0375% / 0.01037519 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    25.4 Iberian
    22.4 Nordic_Germanic
    22.2 North_West_Germanic
    11.0 Central_Germanic
    10.0 VK2020_French_north_VA
    4.6 Finnic
    3.6 Hunnic
    0.8 North_East_Siberia

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.0295% / 0.01029464
    32.8 Nordic_Germanic
    23.8 Iberian
    13.8 North_West_Celtic
    10.2 VK2020_French_north_VA
    7.6 North_West_Germanic
    3.4 Hunnic
    3.2 Baltic
    2.0 Central_Germanic
    1.8 Finnic
    1.4 North_East_Siberia


    Choosen populations:

     
    Target: Nino
    Distance: 2.1879% / 0.02187931 | ADC: 2x RC
    100.0 Nordic_Germanic

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.6274% / 0.01627440 | ADC: 1x RC
    69.8 Nordic_Germanic
    30.2 Balkan

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4922% / 0.01492156 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    75.4 Nordic_Germanic
    21.8 Italy_North
    2.8 Balkan

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4657% / 0.01465675 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    72.6 Nordic_Germanic
    22.6 Italy_North
    4.8 Finnic

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4657% / 0.01465675
    72.6 Nordic_Germanic
    22.6 Italy_North
    4.8 Finnic


    JerryS choosen:

     
    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.7047% / 0.01704704 | ADC: 1x RC
    51.0 Nordic_Germanic
    49.0 North_West_Celtic

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4503% / 0.01450254 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    52.4 Nordic_Germanic
    28.4 North_West_Celtic
    19.2 Italy_south

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4436% / 0.01443607 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.6 Nordic_Germanic
    24.2 North_West_Celtic
    13.4 Italy_south
    6.8 Italy_North

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.4435% / 0.01443503
    56.4 Nordic_Germanic
    23.2 North_West_Celtic
    13.2 Italy_south
    7.2 Italy_North
    I think you would really benefit from leaving the Baltic and Finnish Scandinavian population groups in and removal of some or all of the NW Celtic.
    Last edited by JerryS.; 10-29-2020 at 02:42 AM. Reason: spelling

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  17. #159
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    Florida, USA.
    Ethnicity
    English, Scottish & Irish
    Nationality
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    Y-DNA (P)
    I-FT80854
    mtDNA (M)
    H1e2
    mtDNA (P)
    K1

    England Scotland Ireland Germany Bayern Italy Two Sicilies France
    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    Thanks. your distances look good with and without the ADC adjustment. I read somewhere on these thread that unscaled results are preferred to be between 0.6 and 1.0 to avoid over fitting. according to your history the .5 ADC does look very good for you.

    Usually, I tend to do better with 0.05 or 0.25 ADC. Rarely does Vahaduo’s default setting work for me, except in very simple models with few choices. And on second thought, considering we’re using ancient samples here, the run with 0.25 ADC may actually be the better one. At first glance, I was thinking of modern percentages for modern models.
    Last edited by JMcB; 10-29-2020 at 03:11 AM.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Nationality
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    Y-DNA (P)
    R1b>L617 (England)
    mtDNA (M)
    J1c5 (N.Ire)

    United States of America England Northern Ireland Scotland Wales Normandie
    Target: gar_ancestry
    Distance: 1.1036% / 0.01103619 | ADC: 0.25x
    48.4 North_West_Celtic
    24.4 Iberian
    17.8 South_Germanic
    9.2 Central_Germanic
    0.2 Africa_east

    With Iberian populations removed:

    Target: gar_ancestry
    Distance: 1.2466% / 0.01246642 | ADC: 0.25x
    69.0 North_West_Celtic
    18.6 South_Germanic
    10.2 Italy_North
    2.2 Africa_east
    AncestryDNA results:
    England, Wales, & NW Europe 73%
    Ireland & Scotland 18%
    Germanic Europe 5%
    France 3%
    Cameroon, Congo 1%

    23&me results:
    British & Irish 62.9%
    French & German 15.0%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 19.4%
    Broadly Southern European 0.9%
    Broadly European 0.1%
    Sub-Saharan African 0.7%

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