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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    So I will list my matches by ethnicity:

    Middle Eastern: 16.
    South Asian: 42.
    West Asian: 95.
    Balkan: 752.
    East European: 1284.

    This is out of 13,300. The Eastern European and Balkan strike me as extremely high. I am not sure what the average number is for a British Isles native.

    For my dad:

    Middle Eastern: 31.
    South Asian: 41.
    West Asian: 130.
    Balkan: 1060.
    East European: 1942.

    Out of 19,400.

    For my mum:

    Middle Eastern: 40.
    South Asian: 54.
    West Asian: 131.
    Balkan: 1069.
    East European: 1743.

    Out of 18,100.
    The fact that your mother and father have almost exactly the same number of matches in each group makes it obvious neither has atypical ancestry, unless they both have the exact same obscure, ultra-rare-for-Northern-Ireland admixture in exactly the same proportion, which neither of them knows about because it's so remote -- which is essentially statistically impossible.
    Last edited by Cornella; 02-27-2021 at 09:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    So I will list my matches by ethnicity:

    Middle Eastern: 16.
    South Asian: 42.
    West Asian: 95.
    Balkan: 752.
    East European: 1284.

    This is out of 13,300. The Eastern European and Balkan strike me as extremely high. I am not sure what the average number is for a British Isles native.

    For my dad:

    Middle Eastern: 31.
    South Asian: 41.
    West Asian: 130.
    Balkan: 1060.
    East European: 1942.

    Out of 19,400.

    For my mum:

    Middle Eastern: 40.
    South Asian: 54.
    West Asian: 131.
    Balkan: 1069.
    East European: 1743.

    Out of 18,100.
    So I think rather than looking at numbers by ethnicity, it would be best to do detailed analysis of the matches you get.

    For instance, I match some people in Brazil who are predominantly Brazilian (Native American + Iberian), but have obvious British or Irish ancestry.

    But on the other hand I have a spattering of matches across Europe who have family trees and ethnicity estimates which don’t include British or Irish. I’d look particularly at any segments longer than 10cM and additional segments longer than 8cM, as these are more likely to be real.
    Last edited by lana6765; 02-28-2021 at 02:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    So I will list my matches by ethnicity:

    Middle Eastern: 16.
    South Asian: 42.
    West Asian: 95.
    Balkan: 752.
    East European: 1284.

    This is out of 13,300. The Eastern European and Balkan strike me as extremely high. I am not sure what the average number is for a British Isles native.
    I have pretty much the exact same proportion. For Balkan, I have 479/8742 (5.48%) versus your 5.65%. For Eastern European, I have 863/8742 (9.87%) versus your 9.65%.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    Hmm the Irish posters are going out of your way to make the point that I don't have South Asian ancestry!
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    You were wondering what the average is for a British Isles native so I was just trying to help out by providing a comparison. In my own case, I have 25 matches with South Asian, 65 with West Asian and 17 with Middle Eastern for comparison.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FionnSneachta View Post
    You were wondering what the average is for a British Isles native so I was just trying to help out by providing a comparison. In my own case, I have 25 matches with South Asian, 65 with West Asian and 17 with Middle Eastern for comparison.
    West Asian one of the top ethnicities which my matches have. But this doesn’t mean that I have a Turkish ancestor. I think it’s more useful to look at matches in detail.

    So for instance I do seem to match some Southern Europeans, particularly Italians who score West Asian but no British or Irish. I’m not sure they are close enough to not be by chance. Other clues can be found by researching your family and surrounding families in depth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    West Asian one of the top ethnicities which my matches have. But this doesn’t mean that I have a Turkish ancestor. I think it’s more useful to look at matches in detail.

    So for instance I do seem to match some Southern Europeans, particularly Italians who score West Asian but no British or Irish. I’m not sure they are close enough to not be by chance. Other clues can be found by researching your family and surrounding families in depth.
    I am aware that looking at the matches in detail could possibly lead to something interesting being discovered. However, I just wanted to provide a point of comparison for Nqp15hhu's figures to demonstrate that they're not unusual for someone from Britain and Ireland at first glance. I don't think that I have any ancestry from these locations so I haven't gone to the effort of looking into any of them individually. Due to the fact there are lots of American matches, there will be lots of people with these ethnicities in their results. There are also the many Europeans who get small trace percentages without it reflecting any real ancestry.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    Nothing really astounding IMO.

    It is the GEDROSIAN/BALOCH component which is the reason for affinities.

    I think EEF is higher in West Europeans and it also exhibits an affinity to Gedrosia.

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