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    Quote Originally Posted by cvolt View Post
    Anyone else still have ~20% broadly? I am disappointed that my broadly did not change with the update and my ethnicity percentages did not change more than 2%... especially because I'm phased with both of my parents. Meanwhile my mom's results dramatically updated with barely any broadly now :/ not fair and quite hurtful
    Sorry to hear that. Especially considering you and I are probably the biggest fans/supporters of the 23andMe algorithm! Definitely not cool.

    You're probably really tough to split definitively.. significant NW from both your mom and dad, Scandinavian from your mom, Scandinavian and additional Eastern Europe from your dad, so lot's of moving parts. (did I remember this correctly?) Still, with the parental phasing feature, I would expect better for you than 20% broadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvolt View Post
    Anyone else still have ~20% broadly? I am disappointed that my broadly did not change with the update and my ethnicity percentages did not change more than 2%... especially because I'm phased with both of my parents. Meanwhile my mom's results dramatically updated with barely any broadly now :/ not fair and quite hurtful
    I would not take these tests so personal. I have taken every single one of them and get something different on each of them. No two of them are similar.
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    On these tests I am anywhere from 8% to 37% Eastern European. That shows you none of them have it perfect. One lineage is most likely Slavic probably putting me somewhere between 20-30%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    Sorry to hear that. Especially considering you and I are probably the biggest fans/supporters of the 23andMe algorithm! Definitely not cool.

    You're probably really tough to split definitively.. significant NW from both your mom and dad, Scandinavian from your mom, Scandinavian and additional Eastern Europe from your dad, so lot's of moving parts. (did I remember this correctly?) Still, with the parental phasing feature, I would expect better for you than 20% broadly.
    What has it come to G Dawg? We put the me in 23andme, so I cannot lose hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvolt View Post
    What has it come to G Dawg? We put the me in 23andme, so I cannot lose hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvolt View Post
    Anyone else still have ~20% broadly? I am disappointed that my broadly did not change with the update and my ethnicity percentages did not change more than 2%... especially because I'm phased with both of my parents. Meanwhile my mom's results dramatically updated with barely any broadly now :/ not fair and quite hurtful
    My broadly NW Euro category is almost 1/4 of my estimate, which is definitely disappointing. It actually went up a few % as well. Most of mine seems to be British DNA that for some reason the algorithm had difficulty identifying.
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    37.5% colonial American (English, Scottish, and Irish)
    25% Czech
    12.5% Swedish
    12.5% German
    12.5% possibly all Ashkenazi Jewish, possibly some other Slavic

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    Late to this one. Logged in to check a match and saw there was an update.


    My update:

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    It's not changed drastically, except for a lot of Broadly being assigned now. French & German up ~3%, and British and Irish jumped by ~18%. Southern Europe dropped by ~6%. Native American went from 3.4 to 3.7. Looks like most of my Broadly was put into British and Irish. I feel based on paper trail if it was instead put into French & German it would be fairly accurate, but it feels a bit off as is. I did get regions in France finally, Occitanie and Brittany.

    The trace ancestries are interesting. I figured pretty much must be noise, and it still could be, but their FAQ says it's less likely to be noise if it stays at higher confidence levels. Everything there stays the same through 70% confidence level, at 80% the Malayali Subgroup drops to .1 from .2. At 90% Malayali Subgroup changes to Broadly Central & South Asian and goes back up to .2%. The .1 Southern East African stays the same at all confidence levels. The .1 Subsaharan African was also on my initial 23andme results, but I took it to be noise since it showed up on no other tests. More interesting to me now that with the update not only did it stay, they also categorized it further - and it stays at all confidence levels. I just have no clue where these two trace ancestries would be coming from, unless the Malayali was coming through the small amount of Native I have - not sure how likely that is.
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    Paper Trail - Primarily French Canadian and Scottish (through Canada), some English, smaller amounts of Native American and German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linthos View Post
    Late to this one. Logged in to check a match and saw there was an update.

    My update:

    new.JPG

    It's not changed drastically, except for a lot of Broadly being assigned now. French & German up ~3%, and British and Irish jumped by ~18%. Southern Europe dropped by ~6%. Native American went from 3.4 to 3.7. Looks like most of my Broadly was put into British and Irish. I feel based on paper trail if it was instead put into French & German it would be fairly accurate, but it feels a bit off as is. I did get regions in France finally, Occitanie and Brittany.

    The trace ancestries are interesting. I figured pretty much must be noise, and it still could be, but their FAQ says it's less likely to be noise if it stays at higher confidence levels. Everything there stays the same through 70% confidence level, at 80% the Malayali Subgroup drops to .1 from .2. At 90% Malayali Subgroup changes to Broadly Central & South Asian and goes back up to .2%. The .1 Southern East African stays the same at all confidence levels. The .1 Subsaharan African was also on my initial 23andme results, but I took it to be noise since it showed up on no other tests. More interesting to me now that with the update not only did it stay, they also categorized it further - and it stays at all confidence levels. I just have no clue where these two trace ancestries would be coming from, unless the Malayali was coming through the small amount of Native I have - not sure how likely that is.
    Interesting. My broadly NW Europe barely changed (roughly 17% to roughly 15%), but my broadly Europe (which was already small, 2.9%), went away. My southern Europe increased, from 0.6% to 4% broken down into 2.9% Italian and 1% Spanish/Portuguese, plus 0.1% broadly.

    Mostly the changes were positive, but the southern European is not in my paper trail although at that level, who cares. I do have some French (3%) that was identified as southern French at one point (no longer) in my Ancestry upload to 23andMe, and my dad sometimes gets Iberian. The German ancestry is largely southwestern German and Swiss too.

    My current Ancestry upload to 23andMe results are:

    96.2% NW Europe

    41.6% British and Irish (too low) (highly likely for both)
    28% French & German (too high) (highly likely France, likely Germany, Switzerland, and Belgium -- I am French, German, Swiss, and Dutch, but more German and Swiss than French, which on my paper trail is 3.25%, although I have matches connected only through my French immigrant couple)

    9.2% Scandinavian (a bit too low, Sweden is the only country listed as a "possible match" and the specific location is correct, but as one g-grandmother is Swedish "possible match" seems lame)

    17.4% Broadly NW European (lots of room to fix the problems with the above)

    1.4% Southern European (0.8% Spanish and Portuguese, 0.6% Broadly SE)

    1.9% Broadly European

    0.2% Senegambian and Guinean (23andMe really believes in this but I get it nowhere else, not even Ancestry when it was more into trace results, but it is possible)

    0.3% unassigned

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    I'm on the V4 chip. I've just noticed my Ancestry Composition has now changed to "Updated: November 02, 2020", however everything is still the same. We'll see if anything develops. The Version is still 5.2.

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    Under Scientific Details for 5.2 it has "Ancestral breakdown last computed on November 02, 2020". Looks like I'm unlucky and it didn't update anything. Hopefully those of you on V4 have more luck.
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