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    Quote Originally Posted by gjenetiks View Post
    Yes he said this on Euronews Albania, I believe he said there was a fshat in Kruje called Abazaj and that he is an Abazi. I think he was trying to make some sort of connection based off of this, but that's not usually how it works. He did however say if I recall correctly, that the people of the village say that he is related to them. So it's something.
    There are a couple of families from Ulqin that do actually claim to have come from Krujë and the surrounding villages. Personally, I am not entirely convinced of the connection between his family and the Abazovići from Pečurice in Mrkojević. As far as I am aware, his family doesn't claim relation with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    There are a couple of families from Ulqin that do actually claim to have come from Krujë and the surrounding villages. Personally, I am not entirely convinced of the connection between his family and the Abazovići from Pečurice in Mrkojević. As far as I am aware, his family doesn't claim relation with them.
    I think he said that his father was a businessman in Ulqin? There is a guy named Vebija Abazovic from Pecurice who sells olive oil there. https://oliveoilmontenegro.me/portfo...ebijaabazovic/ http://uljaraabazovic.com

    Edit: What I wrote is fake news, this is NOT his father
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    Guy above is not his dad

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...3&id=612018512

    He posted a video of his dad signing jare shkodrane, Xho Abazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broder View Post
    Guy above is not his dad

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...3&id=612018512

    He posted a video of his dad signing jare shkodrane, Xho Abazi.
    Ok, thanks for the clear up. Then he most likely has origins from Kruje. Here is the part of that EuronewsAlbania interview timestamped where he talks about his origins from Kruje. Min 28:30 https://youtu.be/7wyMnTetetc?t=1710


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    Ulqin is a city with a long history. Its demographics can't be analyzed like we would analyze those of a fis or a region composed of several fis. The fis mode of social organizaion has a stability and continuity through time. A city is a chaotic system in terms of genealogical research. Its only stable element is that of the "old burger families" and this genealogical instability is constantly reproduced by the urban form of organization itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleschreiber View Post
    Ulqin is a city with a long history. Its demographics can't be analyzed like we would analyze those of a fis or a region composed of several fis. The fis mode of social organizaion has a stability and continuity through time. A city is a chaotic system in terms of genealogical research. Its only stable element is that of the "old burger families" and this genealogical instability is constantly reproduced by the urban form of organization itself.
    Yeah Ulqin is certainly tougher to analyze. Btw, do you have any more info on Kraja and families there? I remember you posted something about how Kraja has minimal matrineal slavic lineage. There isn't much information on Kraja or Shestani, Shestani I feel more so, since there is a Malesor link there.

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    What about Albin Kurti, do we know what fis does he belong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    What about Albin Kurti, do we know what fis does he belong?
    I believe he's from the village of Sukubin, in Ana Malit, Ulqin. As far as his fis is concerned, I don't know which fis he hails from.

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    Is it true that Selman Kadria shares blood/blood ties with Serbs? According to historian Liman Rushiti he was a nip of a Krstic (Kerrst) in Istog. https://www.botasot.info/lajme/39042...-nxehte-video/

    This video explains things more clearly.


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