Means a major uphill struggle.

Big Y: 2matches, listed as E-BY178965 . At FTDNA I'm E-BY5234

Y37-Same surname GD 2 .Have never been able to persuade to upgrade(offered to pay)

Y111- different surname,GD 8 . E-BY178965 Big Y 12/635 difference=0.019 . No sign of uploading to Yfull.

Yfull- One of Big Y matches shares terminal hg E-Y45878 with me. 14/455 difference= 0.031 .