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    Latest R1b Family Chart - Sep 2020- From FTDNA


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    Oh sweet, it's nice to see that the admins are still working on phylogeny. Tiger has Walshed another fine iceberg tree
    Most of my family is from Tennessee, though a few of my ancestors are from adjacent areas of North Carolina and Georgia. My paternal line is positive for Z30682, underneath J-Z7671 and Y11200.

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    It's great to see those trees and how often they're updated. I'm always interested to see what my dad's most recent SNP is on the tree, The most recent SNP for my dad's line is DF49 on that chart.

    This is the L21 chart from 13th September 2020: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/...ndant_Tree.png
    The most recent SNP for my dad's line is three SNPs further down on that chart at ZP77.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    I have a series of these overview descendant trees. Beyond the R1b big picture I help out on R-L21 sub-projects.

    These are the web pages where I keep the current versions of these charts, both the .PNG and .PDF formats. The .PDF formats are better for zooming and panning.

    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/results

    L21: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results
    FGC11134: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results
    M222: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results
    L513: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results
    Z255: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results
    Z251: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results

    I've got a couple more that need updating. These include R-L1335 and R-S1026.

    I'm planning on doing similar charts for R-DF27 and R-Z209. DF27's will be complex I'm afraid.
    Last edited by TigerMW; 10-15-2020 at 04:15 PM.

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    Nice Work. Do you have any Charting on R-L23? I have tested BY251.

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    Can hardly wait for the Carpathian Basin data that was briefly presented on youtube by Szécsényi-Nagy. Not many bloggers have done a side by side comparison by way of pca-- Polish R1b Corded ware, Polish R1b-Bell Beakers, compared to Hungarian Bell Beaker sample I2787. Sooner or later a cluster R1b-Z2103-Z2109+; Yamnaya-Hungary, Eastern Bell Beaker- Hungary, South-Eastern Poland Bell Beaker, South Eastern Poland Corded Ware, will be compared to Yamnaya-Afanasievo-Catacombe-Poltavka-Pokrovka Sarmatians. If I were to take a guess, we will see a nice cluster spanning 3000 km in geography-(Hungary-Mongolia) * 3000 years-dating back to the oldest Kurgans with L23+and or/Z2103-z2109+Yamnaya samples.


    Then we can compare the spread Fatyanovo–Balanovo-Corded ware culture-3100- 2900+/- BC--Yamnaya/Afanasievo 3300BC+/-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    Familytreedna projects compared to new papers/results.
    R1b - CTS1450-Y23493
    Can hardly wait for the Carpathian Basin data that was briefly presented on youtube by Szécsényi-Nagy. Not many bloggers have done a side by side comparison by way of pca-- Polish R1b Corded ware, Polish R1b-Bell Beakers, compared to Hungarian Bell Beaker sample I2787. Sooner or later a cluster R1b-Z2103-Z2109+; Yamnaya-Hungary, Eastern Bell Beaker- Hungary, South-Eastern Poland Bell Beaker, South Eastern Poland Corded Ware, will be compared to Yamnaya-Afanasievo-Catacombe-Poltavka-Pokrovka Sarmatians. If I were to take a guess, we will see a nice cluster spanning 3000 km in geography-(Hungary-Mongolia) * 3000 years-dating back to the oldest Kurgans with L23+and or/Z2103-z2109+Yamnaya samples.


    Then we can compare the spread Fatyanovo–Balanovo-Corded ware culture-3100- 2900+/- BC--Yamnaya/Afanasievo 3300BC+/-
    I fail to see how this is relevant to new SNP trees in the R1b project
    Most of my family is from Tennessee, though a few of my ancestors are from adjacent areas of North Carolina and Georgia. My paternal line is positive for Z30682, underneath J-Z7671 and Y11200.

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