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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    I can't get the attachment at the bottom to open.
    Yeah, I know. It appears to have timed out. It was just a CvG PCA example with the Moderns and myself. Nothing of interest.
    Last edited by JMcB; 10-13-2020 at 04:47 PM.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    just for fun, as I have nothing to do with Western Europe

    Target: Devadatta
    Distance: 2.3230% / 0.02322960
    45.2 Gallo-Roman
    45.0 Dane
    9.8 Swede

    Target: Devadatta
    Distance: 2.3229% / 0.02322946
    38.0 Gallo-Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_AntiquityRMPR33
    24.0 Dane: Denmark_JutlandVK340
    19.0 Dane: Denmark_LangelandVK274
    10.0 Swede:VK395
    7.4 Gallo-Roman:FRA_IAERS1164
    1.6 Dane: Denmark_LangelandVK287

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    Target: OwenMom
    Distance: 0.1641% / 0.16414828
    53.8 Gallo-Roman
    23.4 Swede
    22.8 Norse

    Target: OwenMom
    Distance: 0.1707% / 0.17069745
    52.2 England_Roman
    47.8 England_IA

    Target: OwenMom
    Distance: 0.0180% / 0.01795635
    55.4 ISL_Viking_Age_Gaelic
    40.2 England_Roman
    2.6 England_IA
    1.8 England_Anglo-Saxon
    Last edited by Nqp15hhu; 10-24-2020 at 05:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    As we all know my ancestry is highly Celtic. Here are my C vs G results, no surprises.

    Target: Owen
    Distance: 1.7727% / 0.01772736 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    88.4 ISL_Viking_Age_Gaelic
    11.6 England_Roman

    Target: Owen
    Distance: 1.7727% / 0.01772672
    88.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Gaelic
    12.0 England_Roman

    Boring!

    Target: Owen
    Distance: 1.9294% / 0.01929380
    76.2 CelticVK
    23.8 North_GermanicVK

    Boring!

    Would be nice to have some more mixed or exotic ancestry for once.
    So my mum has less Celtic ancestry than me apparently.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    So my mum has less Celtic ancestry than me apparently.



    What's your reasoning behind that?
    Last edited by jadegreg; 10-24-2020 at 10:21 AM.

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    Crap calculator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    Crap calculator.
    Not at all. Why would you say that? These calculators do not assign you ethnicity, they assess your closest matching populations in a 'genetic space'. Obviously, though, we are limited by the number of ancient samples available to us, and in your case appropriate samples. You may be happier next year when we should get more Irish BA and IA samples.

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    Well, the other calculators were much more accurate and separating out my Mum's differences.

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    How were they more accuarate? Yes, there will be differences in relation to model accuracies, but remember the number of samples for ancients available to us are more limited than moderns. However, looking at your results there are clear differences between yourself and your mum. Your mum pulls more England Roman and you pull kore Gaelic Viking, with no penalty. Have you plotted all of the samples with you and your mum's data? Have you looked at single item distances to compare. Are your mum and yourself attracted to the same samples in the model? If that's not enough modify the model be adding/removing samples etc etc. There are many ways to interrogate the model in relation to yourself and your mum.

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    Well the Ancestry model was pretty close to our ethnicity estimates.. and the Celtic vs Germanic code plotted me as Orcadian and her as Irish..

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