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    Quote Originally Posted by Buxoro View Post
    TKM iron age is pred. steppe however:
    Target: TKM_IAA382
    Distance: 2.6860% / 0.02685989
    56.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    24.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    11.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    6.2 Levant_PPNC
    1.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

    In the end, i suppose the average of the proto-persian Central Asia would be around 50% steppe 50% Zagros neolithic
    Yes this is the sample from very close to Yaz-culture, just few kilometers north of Yaz-culture in Turkmenistan. Check my model above roughly 50% steppe derived (Srubnaya gets the best fit) and roughly 50% BMAC (Namazga-Tepe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithra ������ View Post
    Gonur isnīt Yaz-Culture these are BMAC samples. They have steppe ancestry interesting, isn't it ? Before Indo-Iranians there is steppe ancestry in Central Asia. I suppose it's shared ancestry found in Iran_Neolithic and the southern ancestry of Yamnaya.
    Well i read in russian that Gonur is linked to Yaz.
    But i think you re right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buxoro View Post
    Well i read in russian that Gonur is linked to Yaz.
    But i think you re right.
    Gonur Tepe was the main city of BMAC.

    English Wikipedia:
    Gonur Depe (Turkmen: Goňur depe) is an archaeological site located about 60 km north of Mary (ancient Merv), Turkmenistan consisting of a large early Bronze Age settlement. It is the "capital" or major settlement of the Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex (BMAC) dated from 2400-1600 BCE.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonur_Depe


    The last date of Gonur Tepe... 1600BC.. and Yaz-culture starts roughly 1500BC... . I think everyone knows what happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithra ������ View Post
    Gonur Tepe was the main city of BMAC.

    English Wikipedia:
    Gonur Depe (Turkmen: Goňur depe) is an archaeological site located about 60 km north of Mary (ancient Merv), Turkmenistan consisting of a large early Bronze Age settlement. It is the "capital" or major settlement of the Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex (BMAC) dated from 2400-1600 BCE.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonur_Depe


    The last date of Gonur Tepe... 1600BC.. and Yaz-culture starts roughly 1500BC... . I think everyone knows what happened
    Interesting that the Mitannis predate the Yaz-culture, I suspect they were fully Andronovo-like without any BMAC when they arrived in the Mideast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helves View Post
    Interesting that the Mitannis predate the Yaz-culture, I suspect they were fully Andronovo-like without any BMAC when they arrived in the Mideast.
    The Alalakh outliers who are thought to be remants/descendants of the Mitanni were found to have substantial BMAC ancestry.

    https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2020/...y-mitanni.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulin View Post
    The Alalakh outliers who are thought to be remants/descendants of the Mitanni were found to have substantial BMAC ancestry.

    https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2020/...y-mitanni.html
    It's one female outlier I believe, not outliers. From what I can find on Alalakh and her burial it doesn't seem to indicate of being a Mitanni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helves View Post
    Interesting that the Mitannis predate the Yaz-culture, I suspect they were fully Andronovo-like without any BMAC when they arrived in the Mideast.
    It's roughly the same time, isn't it ? Until we don't have any good samples no one will know. Don't forget that Mitanni only had an Elite that was of Indo-Iranian (Indo-Aryan?) origin, the vast majority spoke Hurrian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helves View Post
    It's one female outlier I believe, not outliers. From what I can find on Alalakh and her burial it doesn't seem to indicate of being a Mitanni.
    Agree I wouldn’t count female outlier samples - most of them are probably kept for sexual purposes from defeated tribes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helves View Post
    It's one female outlier I believe, not outliers. From what I can find on Alalakh and her burial it doesn't seem to indicate of being a Mitanni.
    Well, the mtdna is straight from the steppe, and she has BMAC mixture. The only other possibility is some kind of Iranian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulin View Post
    Well, the mtdna is straight from the steppe, and she has BMAC mixture. The only other possibility is some kind of Iranian.
    You're right her mtdna looks strikingly Steppe derived and she does have some Steppe admixture. But like Buxoro said we can't make any conclusions based on female samples, especially not when it's just one sample among many.

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