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    Is the MorleyDNA Y-DNA predictor accurate?

    For context, I have not yet done a Y-DNA test on FTDNA, although I plan to at some point in the near future. I tested the Y-SNP subclade predictor on MorleyDNA out of interest using my Ancestry autosomal results, I got R1B-L1065 as the most likely result which makes sense as my surname is of Scottish origin although it seems it is very limited in how much Y-DNA data can be taken from an autosomal test. So I wanted to ask those who have tried out this service and who have also their Y-DNA properly tested, how accurate was MorleyDNA in predicting your results?

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    R1b is probably accurate but anything else goes.
    55.8% Greek Central Macedonia + 44.2% Greek Trabzon @ 1.46

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    It ended up being quite accurate for me, predicting my future subclade.
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

    Maternal Y-DNA: J2a-M67 > Z1847 > Y4036 > Z467 > Z447> L210

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    It's relatively accurate from what I've seen. It's just not very precise. If you want precision, testing with FTDNA, YSEQ or companies which specialize in uniparental DNA would be your best bet.
    Last edited by spruithean; 10-12-2020 at 12:03 AM.

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    Yes, it will tell you the main subgroup that you are part of in your haplogroup but you will still be 10+ steps from your own haplogroup.

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    Trying to squeeze fine detail out of a few Y markers packaged with an autosomal test is always a big ask.
    Save your money or ask for a birthday/Christmas gift towards a proper Y.

    Cautionary tale.
    A friend went with an estimate from a previous calculator.
    Received an inaccurate estimate due to two entirely different haplogroup paths containing the same marker at different points.
    Wasted time chasing the wrong ethnicity due to that wrong haplogroup.
    I have not seen much of that lately, so maybe the YDNA markers tested are more indicative. Or the calculators are better.
    Maybe, maybe not.

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    Just a question - what are the chances that one of the commercial boyz i.e. 23andme mistakes the Y haplogroup completely? I'm assuming its quite unlikely that a person is determined to be 'L' but is in fact 'J' or something like that...is it thus worth getting a proper y-test for haplogroups without much study as of yet? I also wonder the same for maternal haplogroup classification - how often is it that the clade is wrong or perhaps just the subclade? I.e. determined L3b1* but is in fact L3b2b? I'd really like to investigate both lineages further but I'm not sure if it will do me any good.
    Last edited by ThaYamamoto; 10-13-2020 at 05:19 PM.

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    I don't think I've ever seen a person being assigned a wrong haplogroup in a commercial test, afaik the worst it can happen is that they assign you a subclade that has a distant TMRCA and ends up being mostly useless for anything other than mere curiosity
    YDNA E-Y31991>PF4428>Y134097>Y134104>Y168273>FT17866 (TMRCA ~1100AD) - Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1690 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal - Stonemason, miller.
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    Just as a PSA, if any of you do decide to go down the Y test route, doing FTDNA y-12,37,111 etc.. won’t give you a terminal subclade. The only thing that will get you there is the Big Y. Or, you can do a y-37 etc.. and then faff about with snp packs but in the end you’ll likely spend more money than just a Big Y or equivalent test elsewhere.
    Last edited by digital_noise; 10-13-2020 at 05:14 PM.
    distance%=4.6465"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen a person being assigned a wrong haplogroup in a commercial test, afaik the worst it can happen is that they assign you a subclade that has a distant TMRCA and ends up being mostly useless for anything other than mere curiosity
    Has happened to me and another user here. 23andme says our mtdna is J1c but every other single mtdna tool says J1b8. I wouldn't assume they don't assign wrong haplogroups. They probably won't be completely wrong, however.
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