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    R-Y1*

    Hello.
    I got my Y sequenced recently, and I uploaded my data to YFull.
    The result is: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y1*/.
    ID:YF78489
    It appears that my Y is common in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgali View Post
    Hello.
    I got my Y sequenced recently, and I uploaded my data to YFull.
    The result is: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y1*/.
    ID:YF78489
    It appears that my Y is common in India.
    Welcome,

    very interesting results and thanks for uploading your kit to YFull. I am Y920 which is just bit upstream of your Y1 clade (Afghan paternal line). Y1 and generally Y920 and L657 (upstream of Y1 and Y920) is today typical for India, Pakistan, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Balochistan, Afghanistan and can be also found in neighbouring regions in low frequencies. In Europe it seems to be absent except of the Romani minorities, who got their L657 clades from their South Asian ancestors. In Africa L657 is present among some Arabs in North Africa and coastal East Africans (contacts with Arabia/South Asia) but in low frequencies. So you most likely got your Y-dna from a South Asian ancestor on your paternal line.

    Y1 itself is probably more than 4000 years old and arrived in South Asia/Central Asia with the Indo-Iranian migration of Indo-Europen tribes from Central Asia and East Europe. Y1 was either born in Central Asia or East Europe based on his estimated date but i think it was probably born somewhere between the Ural and Don. Y1 was part of an Proto-Indo-Aryan group in the forest-steppes of East Europe (Abashevo/Fatyanovo) which around 2000 B.C started to expand rapidly into Central Asia and ultimately South Asia. But in Europe Y1 and related L657 clades pretty much became extinct already in the Iron Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgali View Post
    Hello.
    I got my Y sequenced recently, and I uploaded my data to YFull.
    The result is: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y1*/.
    ID:YF78489
    It appears that my Y is common in India.
    Do you by any chance know which part of India your paternal ancestor may be from?

    My paternal language Bhojpuri is one the languages spoken in Trinidad.
    "Caribbean Hindustani
    Trinidadian Hindustani (Trinidadian Bhojpuri, Plantation Hindustani, Gaon ke Bolee)"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhojpuri_language

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    Unfortunately, I do not know. This lineage was a surprise to me. I've always suspected that I had a small amount of Indian admixture, but I didn't expect my Y-line to go back to South Asia. According to 23andme, I have a small amount that goes back to Southern South India and Sri Lanka

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgali View Post
    Unfortunately, I do not know. This lineage was a surprise to me. I've always suspected that I had a small amount of Indian admixture, but I didn't expect my Y-line to go back to South Asia. According to 23andme, I have a small amount that goes back to Southern South India and Sri Lanka
    Have you heard Telugu or Tamil language spoken close to you ?
    Y: H-M69 -> H-M82 -> SK1225 -> H-Z5888 -> H-Z5890 -> H-CTS8144 [CTS8144/PF1741/M5498] -> Z34531 (H1a1a4b3b1a8~)
    found 2875 BCE -> Jiroft/IVC Periphery 11459 Shahr-i-Sokte BA2
    mtDNA:U2a1a

    G25 Ancients Dist 0.79 IND_Roopkund_A 51.05 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 46.64 MAR_Iberomaurusian2.04PAK_Katelai_IA0.19 TKM_Gonur2_BA 0.08

    Lactose Persistence rs3213871 rs4988243 rs4988183 rs3769005 rs2236783
    found -> DA125, Kangju

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    Have you heard Telugu or Tamil language spoken close to you ?
    Probably. I have several Indian colleagues and friends from various backgrounds, and I have heard them speak various languages, but I know absolutely nothing about the languages

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