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    Any German Results from AncestryDNA for Comparison?

    What do fully German people score on AncestryDNA with the newest update? Seems they swallow minor older admixture in their results since they have a very good and broad German reference panel?
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    I don't have a fully German result to share, but I do have my father's. His family tree is 3/4 German and 1/4 Trentino Italian.

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    My mother is all German, besides one British great-grandparent. Here is my mom's result:


     
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    Known ancestry: 92.6% German (66.8% North German), 4.7% Danish, 1.8% Czech, 0.8% Austrian, 0.1% Swiss.
    EUROGENES K13: N German, N Dutch, DNK, SWE, NOR. Ancestry: Germanic 75%, Sweden 13%, Norway 11%, Baltic 1%. LM: NOR, DNK, NLD, N-DEU, SWE.
    23andMe: NW Europe 82.5% (French/German 50.2%, Scandinavian 9.1%, British/Irish 3.2%), East Europe 11.5%, South Europe 1.5%. DNAL: NW Euro 81%, NE Euro 11%, Med 6.5%
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticGerman View Post
    Wow, is that ever a truly Germanic result! not only does your Germanic percentage reach the top range of what Ancestry considers to be a "typical native" (50-75%) the remainder is Scandinavian, save the 1% Baltic. IIRC you do have Scandinavian ancestry too?

    A very interesting result - thank you for sharing it!

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    Dad is roughly half west German (and was born there) and then, in decreasing amounts: British(all over GB/S)>Swiss German>Belgian+Ashkenazi

    Germanic Europe 37%
    England & Northwestern Europe 30%
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    My grandfather is 3/4 from Mecklenburg, 1/4 Lippe. They actually gave him 100% Germanic two updates ago. He now gets:

    63% Germanic Europe
    26% Sweden
    9% England & NW Europe
    2% Baltics

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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticGerman View Post
    that's German as all get out. I was thinking my Scottish and English were the source of all Scandinavian I was getting on the DIYs, thinking Denmark would be the only link to Germany. This gives me reason to pause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    that's German as all get out. I was thinking my Scottish and English were the source of all Scandinavian I was getting on the DIYs, thinking Denmark would be the only link to Germany. This gives me reason to pause.
    I've definitely got some German - how much is really tough to tell, because it overlaps with the Eastern European, and my German ancestors came from Eastern Europe. I roughly estimate a possible 1/8 or 12.5%. Ancestry did not give me much Germanic Europe at all, instead giving me a large chunk of Swedish.
    I got 14% Sweden, and 2% Germanic Europe. My mom, whose side this comes from got 17% Germanic and 12% Sweden. My dad doesn't get any Germanic or Swedish, so I can confirm where these percentages must be coming from.
    I think German ancestry appears as Scandinavian fairly often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    I've definitely got some German - how much is really tough to tell, because it overlaps with the Eastern European, and my German ancestors came from Eastern Europe. I roughly estimate a possible 1/8 or 12.5%. Ancestry did not give me much Germanic Europe at all, instead giving me a large chunk of Swedish.
    I got 14% Sweden, and 2% Germanic Europe. My mom, whose side this comes from got 17% Germanic and 12% Sweden. My dad doesn't get any Germanic or Swedish, so I can confirm where these percentages must be coming from.
    I think German ancestry appears as Scandinavian fairly often.
    That's part of the reason I was wondering. Because I get a high amount of generalised "Germany and Midwestern USA", which seems to include a fairly broad sample of predominantely German descended people - so some small admixture which is common in German descended people from the USA being tolerated by this large sample most likely. The other companies all had a much more restricted sample, on the one hand showing at 23andme minor admixtures, on the other confusing "real German" from undersampled groups and assigning it to other regions and ethnicities according to their algorithm.

    The Scandinavian is interesting too, because it seems to appear in all "the very German" people? I have it too on a low level, and while I can exclude any recent admixture, I have a lot of Scandinavian matches for which there is no known connection other than a Scandinavian moving down or a German moving up in the last 500 years. So I wondered whether this is also because of relatively, but not too recent German admixture in Scandinavians? Like going after my tree and those of others with a deeper genealogical record, the direction from German lands to Scandinavia is much more likely than the opposite.

    Just wondering about how to explain that, whether its more than the algorithm, but something real? On the other hand Ancestry gives a range for its estimates, for my Scandinavian the lower limit is actually zero, so they are not very confident about it. Would be probably good to check with Scandinavians with known German ancestry show any continental Germanic in their results.
    Last edited by Riverman; 10-16-2020 at 09:32 AM.

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