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    Trying to Verify Origins of my English, Scottish, & Northern Irish Surnames

    Hey everyone, researching the origins of surnames just isn't something I'm particularly talented at, I'm not so sure I've done a great job trying to figure out the origins of mine. I have a selection of surnames I'd like to confirm origins for here, any input would be appreciated. For names that often exist in multiple regions, I've added where they're from.
    For this collection of Scottish surnames, once I tallied them up I was surprised to see that more of them have suggested Norman origins than Anglo or Gaelic. Would people migrating to the Burghs of Scotland, such as people from Flanders, have used Norman surnames even if Flemish in origin?

    Crawford - Anglo or Norman
    Reid (Ayrshire & Stirlingshire) - Anglo
    Eddie - Anglo
    Ferguson (Perthshire) - Gaelic
    Brown - Norman
    Christie - Norman, uncertain.. some sites say Pictish but that seems dubious.
    McLaren - Gaelic
    Martin (Perthshire & Stirling) - Norman
    Ramage - Norman
    Dewar - Gaelic
    Gilchrist - Gaelic
    Mclay - Gaelic
    Brown (Perthshire & Stirling) - Norman
    Millar/Miller (Perthshire & Stirling) - Anglo
    Bayne - Norman
    Thomson/Thompson (Roxburghshire) - Norman
    Nixon - Anglo, uncertain
    Norval - Norman
    Clark (Coleraine) - Anglo or Norman
    Begg - Gaelic
    King (Coleraine) - Anglo, uncertain

    Croft/Crofts - Anglo
    Huntley - Anglo
    Payne - Norman
    Crewe - Welsh
    Pelgrave/Pillgrave - Unknown, I can't find anything about this name at all.
    Fletcher - Norman
    Holland - Anglo
    Bowyer - Anglo
    Lowe - Anglo or Norman
    Bradford - Anglo
    Toten - Anglo
    Weatherill - Anglo
    Runyon - Norman or French
    Harrison - Norman
    Hodge - Norman
    Hessey - Anglo
    Longbones - Unknown
    Dunn - Anglo
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    Surnames can be difficult to know for sure. A quick browse through your list, I’d say Dunn is generally presumed to be Irish rather than Anglo.
    AncestryDNA results:
    England, Wales, & NW Europe 73%
    Ireland & Scotland 18%
    Germanic Europe 5%
    France 3%
    Cameroon, Congo 1%

    23&me results:
    British & Irish 62.9%
    French & German 15.0%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 19.4%
    Broadly Southern European 0.9%
    Broadly European 0.1%
    Sub-Saharan African 0.7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garimund View Post
    Surnames can be difficult to know for sure. A quick browse through your list, I’d say Dunn is generally presumed to be Irish rather than Anglo.
    Thanks! This Dunn (supposedly, assuming my research is correct) was born in the East Riding of Yorkshire, just before 1800. Any chance some Irish could have snuck in there? That'd be a real happy surprise for me.

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    Ah, I see there were different groups of Dunns depending on whether they were found in England, Ireland or Scotland. So in your case, they would probably have just been of Northern English stock. Hard to know for certain though! The DNA project associated with the surname may be a big help in this particular case.
    Last edited by Garimund; 10-21-2020 at 04:54 AM.
    AncestryDNA results:
    England, Wales, & NW Europe 73%
    Ireland & Scotland 18%
    Germanic Europe 5%
    France 3%
    Cameroon, Congo 1%

    23&me results:
    British & Irish 62.9%
    French & German 15.0%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 19.4%
    Broadly Southern European 0.9%
    Broadly European 0.1%
    Sub-Saharan African 0.7%

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    If I recall correctly, Nixon is from the border region of England and Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bog Body View Post
    If I recall correctly, Nixon is from the border region of England and Scotland.
    I see his northern English Dunn listed among Borderer surnames as well.
    AncestryDNA results:
    England, Wales, & NW Europe 73%
    Ireland & Scotland 18%
    Germanic Europe 5%
    France 3%
    Cameroon, Congo 1%

    23&me results:
    British & Irish 62.9%
    French & German 15.0%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 19.4%
    Broadly Southern European 0.9%
    Broadly European 0.1%
    Sub-Saharan African 0.7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bog Body View Post
    If I recall correctly, Nixon is from the border region of England and Scotland.
    Yes indeed! these Nixons were from Hawick in Roxburghshire..

    I can't find out which group brought this surname to the area, or if it was possibly indigenous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garimund View Post
    I see his northern English Dunn listed among Borderer surnames as well.
    I do seem to have more DNA relative connections to the Borders than my paper trail at one 3rd Great-Grandparent would suggest. I wonder if that's possible... Would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    I do seem to have more DNA relative connections to the Borders than my paper trail at one 3rd Great-Grandparent would suggest. I wonder if that's possible... Would be awesome.
    May have something to do with the Northumbrian you always get on LivingDNA?
    AncestryDNA results:
    England, Wales, & NW Europe 73%
    Ireland & Scotland 18%
    Germanic Europe 5%
    France 3%
    Cameroon, Congo 1%

    23&me results:
    British & Irish 62.9%
    French & German 15.0%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 19.4%
    Broadly Southern European 0.9%
    Broadly European 0.1%
    Sub-Saharan African 0.7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garimund View Post
    May have something to do with the Northumbrian you always get on LivingDNA?
    Could definitely be. I can't help but think that may also an effect of the Perthshire ancestry, as on the finestructure pcas and tsne there's some overlap between the Tayside-fife cluster and the borders.. This idea may also just be fantasy of course!

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