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    40.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    26.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    22.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    6.4 WHG
    3.0 Levant_PPNB
    0.4 Han

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    On what target are you modelling? (adding distance close) 0 or 0.25 maybe 0.50 ?
    My Path, L-M20+L-M22+L-M317+L-SK1412+L-SK1414+L-FT20159+L-FT18920+L-FT19262

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    Target: Pedro_scaled
    Distance: 3.9271% / 0.03927139
    46.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    31.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    9.8 WHG
    6.0 MAR_Taforalt
    3.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    1.6 Dinka
    0.6 Yoruba

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurdistani View Post
    On what target are you modelling? (adding distance close) 0 or 0.25 maybe 0.50 ?
    Default, so 0
     

    Target: Xeon_scaled
    Distance: 2.7735% / 0.02773461

    33.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    20.6 Levant_PPNC
    18.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    14.4 GEO_CHG
    13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

    Target: Xeon_scaled
    Distance: 2.2807% / 0.02280652

    37.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    24.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    17.4 Levant_PPNB
    11.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    4.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    1.4 Nganassan
    0.6 MAR_Taforalt

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrylBojarski View Post
    Through Ancestry Calculator Github ( https://yk.github.io/ancestry/ )

    Distance: 7.487548585329695%

    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 49.0%
    Anatolia_Barcin_N: 26.1%
    WHG: 19.4%
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: 2.6%
    Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N: 1.3%
    Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps: 1.0%
    Levant_PPNB: 0.2%
    Other: 0.5%

    everywhere is big distance for me, on Vahaduo, on Genoplot and there
    With Ancestry calculator github (Adam medium) results have nothing to do with those from vahaduo:


    For example my mother:

    Distance: 5.7133544016332865%

    Anatolia_Barcin_N: 47.7%
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 29.6%
    WHG: 19.8%
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: 1.6%
    MAR_Taforalt: 1.2%
    Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N: 0.1%
    Other: 0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    With Ancestry calculator github (Adam medium) results have nothing to do with those from vahaduo:


    For example my mother:

    Distance: 5.7133544016332865%

    Anatolia_Barcin_N: 47.7%
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 29.6%
    WHG: 19.8%
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: 1.6%
    MAR_Taforalt: 1.2%
    Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N: 0.1%
    Other: 0.1%
    Yes, I tried to figure out why it produced strange results with this spreadsheet, but gave up. It may have something to do with the very limited size of the spreadsheet, I am not sure. I may try again to see if I can figure out the puzzle. In the meantime, I would use Vahaduo with this spreadsheet. It is what I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon View Post
    Target: Xeon_scaled
    Distance: 2.2807% / 0.02280652

    37.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    24.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    17.4 Levant_PPNB
    11.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    4.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    4.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    1.4 Nganassan
    0.6 MAR_Taforalt

    Kura-araxes eats up some of the Anatolian and iran neolithic.
    Might be better to use CHG instead of Kura Araxes
    Last edited by StarDS9; 10-27-2020 at 10:11 PM.

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    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.4176% / 0.02417649
    62.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    25.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    7.4 Levant_PPNB
    4.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    0.2 Han

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS_Dad(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.6319% / 0.02631867
    41.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    27.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    15.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    12.6 Levant_PPNB
    3.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    0.2 Han

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
    Distance: 2.2217% / 0.02221720
    43.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    23.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    13.0 Levant_PPNB
    8.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    8.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    2.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    1.0 WHG


    Now, without Tepecik to show West Asian/Levant ancestry more cleanly. For those that asked, Tepecik is likely the actual ancestral component (or closer to it) of EEF for Greeks and Southern Italians. Compare the difference in fits. Unfortunately, because Tepecik and Barcin are similar, they overfit and lead to impossible results. There is no way my YiaYia is 43% Barcin ancestry, while I have literally none. So, we work with what we have and try to make sense of it. My family (again) favors the more Levant heavy source population over the CHG/Iran N ones in contrast to most Greeks. My dad's 20.2% Levant_PPNB is higher than all but two of the individual samples from Crete and Kos and those samples still have 2X the CHG/Iran N components that my family does. I am not far behind.

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.7929% / 0.02792930
    40.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    24.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    19.0 Levant_PPNB
    16.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS_Dad(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.7526% / 0.02752550
    41.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    26.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    20.2 Levant_PPNB
    9.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    2.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    0.2 Han

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
    Distance: 2.2242% / 0.02224235
    48.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    23.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    14.6 Levant_PPNB
    7.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    5.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    1.4 WHG

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    Target: Tipirneni_scaled
    Distance: 2.4298% / 0.02429820
    89.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    3.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    2.6 Han
    2.6 Levant_PPNB
    1.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.6 WHG
    0.4 MAR_Taforalt
    Y: H-M69 -> H-M82 -> SK1225 -> H-Z5888 -> H-Z5890 -> H-CTS8144 [CTS8144/PF1741/M5498] -> Z34531 (H1a1a4b3b1a8~)
    found 2875 BCE -> Jiroft/IVC Periphery 11459 Shahr-i-Sokte BA2
    mtDNA:U2a1a

    G25 Ancients Dist 0.79 IND_Roopkund_A 51.05 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 46.64 MAR_Iberomaurusian2.04PAK_Katelai_IA0.19 TKM_Gonur2_BA 0.08

    Lactose Persistence rs3213871 rs4988243 rs4988183 rs3769005 rs2236783
    found -> DA125, Kangju

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    Target: Tipirneni_scaled
    Distance: 2.4298% / 0.02429820
    89.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    3.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    2.6 Han
    2.6 Levant_PPNB
    1.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.6 WHG
    0.4 MAR_Taforalt
    Adding chemurchek or tagar produces following

    Target: Tipirneni_scaled
    Distance: 2.6228% / 0.02622849 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    87.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    6.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    3.6 Jarawa
    2.4 MNG_Chemurchek_EBA_2

    Target: Tipirneni_scaled
    Distance: 2.4969% / 0.02496940 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    87.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    5.0 RUS_Tagar
    4.4 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    2.8 Jarawa
    0.6 MAR_Taforalt
    Last edited by tipirneni; 10-27-2020 at 10:47 PM.
    Y: H-M69 -> H-M82 -> SK1225 -> H-Z5888 -> H-Z5890 -> H-CTS8144 [CTS8144/PF1741/M5498] -> Z34531 (H1a1a4b3b1a8~)
    found 2875 BCE -> Jiroft/IVC Periphery 11459 Shahr-i-Sokte BA2
    mtDNA:U2a1a

    G25 Ancients Dist 0.79 IND_Roopkund_A 51.05 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 46.64 MAR_Iberomaurusian2.04PAK_Katelai_IA0.19 TKM_Gonur2_BA 0.08

    Lactose Persistence rs3213871 rs4988243 rs4988183 rs3769005 rs2236783
    found -> DA125, Kangju

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