# Thread: G25 Davidski's Ancient Calculator - Scaled

1. 40.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
26.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
22.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
6.4 WHG
3.0 Levant_PPNB
0.4 Han

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3. On what target are you modelling? (adding distance close) 0 or 0.25 maybe 0.50 ?

4. Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.9271% / 0.03927139
46.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
31.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
6.0 MAR_Taforalt
3.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
1.6 Dinka
0.6 Yoruba

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6. Originally Posted by Kurdistani
On what target are you modelling? (adding distance close) 0 or 0.25 maybe 0.50 ?
Default, so 0

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8. Originally Posted by CyrylBojarski
Through Ancestry Calculator Github ( https://yk.github.io/ancestry/ )

Distance: 7.487548585329695%

Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 49.0%
Anatolia_Barcin_N: 26.1%
WHG: 19.4%
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: 2.6%
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N: 1.3%
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps: 1.0%
Levant_PPNB: 0.2%
Other: 0.5%

everywhere is big distance for me, on Vahaduo, on Genoplot and there
With Ancestry calculator github (Adam medium) results have nothing to do with those from vahaduo:

For example my mother:

Distance: 5.7133544016332865%

Anatolia_Barcin_N: 47.7%
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 29.6%
WHG: 19.8%
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: 1.6%
MAR_Taforalt: 1.2%
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N: 0.1%
Other: 0.1%

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10. Originally Posted by mokordo
With Ancestry calculator github (Adam medium) results have nothing to do with those from vahaduo:

For example my mother:

Distance: 5.7133544016332865%

Anatolia_Barcin_N: 47.7%
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 29.6%
WHG: 19.8%
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: 1.6%
MAR_Taforalt: 1.2%
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N: 0.1%
Other: 0.1%
Yes, I tried to figure out why it produced strange results with this spreadsheet, but gave up. It may have something to do with the very limited size of the spreadsheet, I am not sure. I may try again to see if I can figure out the puzzle. In the meantime, I would use Vahaduo with this spreadsheet. It is what I did.

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12. Originally Posted by Xeon
Target: Xeon_scaled
Distance: 2.2807% / 0.02280652

37.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
24.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
17.4 Levant_PPNB
11.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
4.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
1.4 Nganassan
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

Kura-araxes eats up some of the Anatolian and iran neolithic.
Might be better to use CHG instead of Kura Araxes

13. Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
Distance: 2.4176% / 0.02417649
62.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
25.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.4 Levant_PPNB
4.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.2 Han

Distance: 2.6319% / 0.02631867
41.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
27.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.6 Levant_PPNB
3.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.2 Han

Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
Distance: 2.2217% / 0.02221720
43.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
23.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.0 Levant_PPNB
8.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
8.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
2.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
1.0 WHG

Now, without Tepecik to show West Asian/Levant ancestry more cleanly. For those that asked, Tepecik is likely the actual ancestral component (or closer to it) of EEF for Greeks and Southern Italians. Compare the difference in fits. Unfortunately, because Tepecik and Barcin are similar, they overfit and lead to impossible results. There is no way my YiaYia is 43% Barcin ancestry, while I have literally none. So, we work with what we have and try to make sense of it. My family (again) favors the more Levant heavy source population over the CHG/Iran N ones in contrast to most Greeks. My dad's 20.2% Levant_PPNB is higher than all but two of the individual samples from Crete and Kos and those samples still have 2X the CHG/Iran N components that my family does. I am not far behind.

Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
Distance: 2.7929% / 0.02792930
40.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
24.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
19.0 Levant_PPNB
16.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps

Distance: 2.7526% / 0.02752550
41.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
26.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.2 Levant_PPNB
9.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
2.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.2 Han

Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
Distance: 2.2242% / 0.02224235
48.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
23.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.6 Levant_PPNB
7.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
5.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
1.4 WHG

14. Target: Tipirneni_scaled
Distance: 2.4298% / 0.02429820
89.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
3.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
2.6 Han
2.6 Levant_PPNB
1.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.6 WHG
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

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16. Originally Posted by tipirneni
Target: Tipirneni_scaled
Distance: 2.4298% / 0.02429820
89.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
3.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
2.6 Han
2.6 Levant_PPNB
1.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.6 WHG
0.4 MAR_Taforalt
Adding chemurchek or tagar produces following

Target: Tipirneni_scaled
Distance: 2.6228% / 0.02622849 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
6.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.6 Jarawa
2.4 MNG_Chemurchek_EBA_2

Target: Tipirneni_scaled
Distance: 2.4969% / 0.02496940 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
5.0 RUS_Tagar
4.4 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
2.8 Jarawa
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

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