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    Question Strange Eurogenes results - County Mayo/London/Liverpool/Portugal

    Eurogenes K13

    1 North_Atlantic 47.59
    2 Baltic 25.4
    3 West_Med 16.96
    4 West_Asian 5.58
    5 Siberian 2.21
    6 Amerindian 0.78
    7 South_Asian 0.71
    8 East_Med 0.49
    9 Oceanian 0.28
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.01

    Eurogenes K36

    Basque 1.85 Pct
    Central_Euro 14.15 Pct
    East_Central_Euro 5.04 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 10.52 Pct
    Fennoscandian 5.11 Pct
    French 7.32 Pct
    Iberian 7.12 Pct
    Italian 6.83 Pct
    North_Atlantic 12.30 Pct
    North_Caucasian 1.14 Pct
    North_Sea 22.12 Pct
    Volga-Ural 3.00 Pct
    West_Med 3.49 Pct

    MDLP World-22

    West-Asian 5.00 Pct
    North-European-Mesolithic 2.21 Pct
    Mesoamerican 0.29 Pct
    North-Siberean 1.19 Pct
    Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 34.18 Pct
    Samoedic 2.55 Pct
    Indo-Iranian 1.14 Pct
    East-Siberean 0.37 Pct
    North-East-European 50.75 Pct
    North-Amerind 0.37 Pct
    East-South-Asian 0.29 Pct
    Near_East 1.66 Pct

    I’m stuck trying to understand my Eurogenes and MDLP results. High West Med was expected, but I’m particularly confused about the Volga-Ural and Siberian results as I haven’t seen may British people with 2% or more.

    My known background is about 97% British and Irish (~30% Irish, mostly from County Mayo, and ~67% English, mostly from London, Essex and Liverpool). The other 3% is likely Portuguese: 23andme identified me as 2.3% Spanish and Portuguese, 0.2% Broadly South European and 0.2% Unassigned. There was a rumour about Portugal specifically.

    I get matches from all over Europe. These are all quite distant, but the strongest distant matches are from Sweden, Finland and Russia, with a few in Eastern Europe (e.g Belarus) as well. They’re around the 3-6th cousin level on 23andme, MyHeritage and GEDmatch.

    But does it mean anything? Is it even real? How does it relate to the history of the places my ancestors were from? Don’t get me wrong it’s really interesting, but also very confusing! I kind of expected Eurogenes to give me English + Spain or Portugal!
    Last edited by lana6765; 10-27-2020 at 12:57 PM.

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    You may be able to ignore the Swedish, Finnish (and probably Russian) matches. My paper inheritance is nearly all English with a bit of Irish (see below) but myheritage tells me I am 30% Scandinavian. I have started plotting my Scandinavian matches on DNA painter, (just for fun) and so far most are on the same chromosome. So either 1) extensive Viking signature in Cheshire and south Lancashire or 2) NPE through Liverpool or 3) a pile-up region.

    The other companies say only about 2% Scandinavian so my money is on the underlying Viking signature which could also be called a pile-up region (?).
    So for your paper trail if that is your interest, the Portuguese bit looks the most interesting. DNApainter might help you figure it out.
    Image “Westray wifie” replica of Neolithic figurine Hidden Content
    Out of 64 pre 1800 births 45% Cheshire, 1% Irish (or Scottish), 25% south Derbyshire, 13% Burton on Trent area (where 4 counties within 10 miles), 7% Shropshire, 1% Staffs, 8% Lancs. So far all British Isles despite what some testing companies say.

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    Did you try putting the results into the oracle, or mapping them with the k15/k36 similarity tools? The percentages you see there mean little aside from being points of reference to compare population averages. You could be 100% from britain for the last 4000 years, it doesn't matter you'll still get about 50% north atlantic. That's because these perctages just act as genetic coordinates for mapping genetic distance and comparing populations.

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