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Thread: British and Irish folk - G25 coordinates and regional ancestry

  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    My American relations are related to me through these paths:

    1. GG Uncle who immigrated in 1897. 2nd-3rd cousins. The family out there is now larger than ours by a country mile.
    2. GGG Uncle who immigrated in the early 1900’s. Whom is buried in a New York City military cemetery. 3rd cousins.
    3. I have some McLaughlin and Kerr matches. I don’t know who went there or when they went.
    4. Colonial American matches in their thousands.

    So I don’t really have that many famine links. Most of my ancestors died in their 70’s and 80’s.
    Looking at the two maps, your ancestors wouldn't have been affected by the famine to the same extent as other areas of the country. However, in my case the records don't go back far enough for me to determine how much it impacted my ancestors' families. There are baptism records for this time but most parishes didn't keep burial records and the civil death records were only introduced in 1864. I don't know of any relative who died during the famine. I don't think that I have found anyone in America descended from famine emigrants either. However, I do know that there was a workhouse in my town, local records (there are some in Clonalis House as well where the O'Conor Dons lived) and newspaper articles referring to the famine, and a mass grave. Although it's not confirmed, I would be very surprised if none of my ancestors' families were affected by death or emigration during this time.

    Most of my 3x great grandparents who lived during the famine also lived to a decent age. Their ages when they died were about 87 (her age in 1901; I haven't found a death record but she wasn't there in 1911), 77, 87, 75, 70, unknown, unknown, unknown, 81, 80, 86, 73, 45 (child birth), 82, 80, 63 (bronchitis), 90, 64 (debility), unknown, unknown, unknown, 64 (TB ), 82, 71, 72, unknown, 56 (gastroenteritis), 71, 60 (carcinoma of stomach) and 40 (3 days after the birth of her son). All my 3x great grandmother's with a known death date all lived to their 70s, 80s or 90s unless child birth related. It is possible that the unknowns may have died before 1864 or they may have never been registered. There was also no address recorded for people who died in the workhouse so there's no way to know for certain if they're your ancestor or someone else unless it's a very unusual name.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    Wow it’s crazy thinking what they must have gone through. I mean it was a long time ago, but still! It’s only 4-5 generations up from me.

    My direct ancestors all stayed, but some of their siblings emigrated.
    It doesn't feel that long ago. I have four 2x great grandparents who would have remembered the famine and others who were born during the famine. The ages that my 2x great grandparents would have been when the famine started in 1845 were 22, 11, 9, and 7 with others being 5, 7 and 6 when it ended in 1849. They were only the grandparents of my grandparents. My grandparents would have known some of them.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    United States of America Franco-Ontarian Denmark Switzerland France England
    Distance to: b
    0.01924694 English_Cornwall:HG00239
    0.02044507 Afrikaner:AFR086
    0.02083405 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_6
    0.02107430 French_Nord:N_22
    0.02325745 Belgian:Belgium23
    0.02351672 English:HG02215
    0.02352336 Welsh:WalesL42
    0.02355811 English_Cornwall:HG00235
    0.02397752 German:German78
    0.02410742 English:English3
    0.02423860 English:English1
    0.02449705 Welsh:WalesDR84
    0.02517888 Belgian:Belgium20
    0.02534137 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_8
    0.02628794 Belgian:Belgium9
    0.02687160 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_98
    0.02691904 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_10
    0.02705925 French_Alsace:A_60
    0.02718103 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_82
    0.02761969 English_Cornwall:HG00252
    0.02798036 English:HG01789
    0.02821213 Orcadian:HGDP00798
    0.02833809 German:German25
    0.02869182 English_Cornwall:HG00253
    0.02870918 French_Occitanie:T_112

    Target: b
    Distance: 0.6376% / 0.00637594
    33.0 German
    18.6 English
    13.8 English_Cornwall
    13.2 Dutch
    6.4 Swedish
    5.8 Sardinian
    5.4 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    2.6 Lithuanian_PZ
    0.8 Basque_French
    0.2 Ju_hoan_North
    0.2 Mbuti

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVBLAKE View Post
    Distance to: b
    0.01924694 English_Cornwall:HG00239
    0.02044507 Afrikaner:AFR086
    0.02083405 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_6
    0.02107430 French_Nord:N_22
    0.02325745 Belgian:Belgium23
    0.02351672 English:HG02215
    0.02352336 Welsh:WalesL42
    0.02355811 English_Cornwall:HG00235
    0.02397752 German:German78
    0.02410742 English:English3
    0.02423860 English:English1
    0.02449705 Welsh:WalesDR84
    0.02517888 Belgian:Belgium20
    0.02534137 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_8
    0.02628794 Belgian:Belgium9
    0.02687160 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_98
    0.02691904 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_10
    0.02705925 French_Alsace:A_60
    0.02718103 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_82
    0.02761969 English_Cornwall:HG00252
    0.02798036 English:HG01789
    0.02821213 Orcadian:HGDP00798
    0.02833809 German:German25
    0.02869182 English_Cornwall:HG00253
    0.02870918 French_Occitanie:T_112

    Target: b
    Distance: 0.6376% / 0.00637594
    33.0 German
    18.6 English
    13.8 English_Cornwall
    13.2 Dutch
    6.4 Swedish
    5.8 Sardinian
    5.4 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    2.6 Lithuanian_PZ
    0.8 Basque_French
    0.2 Ju_hoan_North
    0.2 Mbuti
    Intriguing! What’s your known ancestry? You seem to be closer to the South of England!

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    My maternal line of English ancestry is from Norfolk. My paternal line is from, as near as I can determine, Surrey.

    Edit:

    I am intrigued by the Cornish connection which crops up in various calculators. It seems decided in this one.
    Last edited by RVBLAKE; 11-04-2020 at 11:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    Wow it’s crazy thinking what they must have gone through. I mean it was a long time ago, but still! It’s only 4-5 generations up from me.

    My direct ancestors all stayed, but some of their siblings emigrated.
    My Irish left for England during earlier hard times.

    The Irish Famine was a great disaster there.
    But the wet years affected grain and potato crops generally across northern continental Europe.
    My Cornish left because they needed potatoes to eke out their meagre and declining mining income.
    My Silesians in what is now Poland who left then went because their crops were damaged during the same wet years.
    (One wag said later, that just for variety they then had one disastrously dry year there.)
    One of my English left after his father's grain trading business failed in those wet years.

    Of course, when the people who made it to the colonies sent back word that things were good there, even more family left.

    My people were fortunate not to have lost family in that famine, but they were adversely affected and most of my lines emigrated because of it.

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