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    Yenikoy on this 1913 ethnographic map (Prof. Dr. J. Cvijic) is painted as Greek:


    dosas: 56.25% Greek_Macedonia + 43.75% Greek_Trabzon @ 1.769
    wife: 50% English + 50% Irish @ 1.837
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marko47 View Post
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    Dodecad K12b
    Distance: 0.8790% / 0.87904303
    Target: Markos | ADC: 0.5x RC
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    The one that we are from is technically within the city of Sile on the Asian part of Constantinopoli, very near to the Black Sea coast. It is called Yenikoy Sile on today's map, not to be confused with the neighborhood called Yenikoy within the city proper.

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    Screenshot (65).png Just a reminder that these are my results, not my father's. My father would probably have between 25-35% of the Greece and the Balkans result from his paternal family. (His paternal grandmother more than likely being 100%)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marko47 View Post

    1) We have no knowledge of Peloponnesian or other Balkan Greeks, but then again we have no knowledge whatsoever of that branch of our family. But I found a specific document listing excerpts from several historical accounts, that have the founders of the village Neochori Xili as being from Tas Kioprou Nicomedias. People mentioned this last time I posted, and this makes more sense given that everyone who I match with from the village, have very little but more often than not 0% West Asian DNA. They all have Greek or Balkan DNA. Someone sent me an article about another Neochori once, that discussed its origin. This Neochori (of course there have to be like 20 places with the same name) was Neochori Nicomedias, not very far from Tas Kioprou Nicomedias where the founders of our Neochori were from. Neochori Nicomedias was settled by Peloponnesian and Epirote Greeks in something like the 17th century. The history says that the Greeks of Tas Kioprou--who may have also been Peloponnesians--left Tas Kioprou because it had a very large Turkish community. They founded a village close to Sile which became known in the area for being 100% Greek, no Turks at all, and for having their own guerilla unit that protected Christians in the region. People started coming there from other parts of the region for this region, including some from the east.
    Hi, I remember this information somewhere, was it here or perhaps in quora? As i already wrote in the original related post your Neochori (Yenikoy) is near Sile, 41 7' 23'', 29 38' 58''

    as far as i understand after the Orlov revolt the greeks of Taskopru (Tas Kioprou) region together with other exiles from Peloponnes were deported to Yenikoy. They were called backwoodsman, mountaineer etc by local greeks, i.e. rough, rude etc. due their greek dialect. They were the source of greek bandit groups after 1919.


    source https://nisanyanmap.com/?y=yenik%C3%...le&cry=TR&ua=5
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    Hi, yes, I remember someone mentioning this information. You may have posted the source but there was something there about Orlov and possibly Gebze (which is basically slightly above where they came from). This is another interpretation than what I have seen from Greek accounts. I didn't see anything about deportation or even Orlov. There was once a Turkish wikipedia article that mentioned the dialect too, that they couldn't understand the other Greeks of Sile. This is hard to verify from actual people of either place and seems very likely untrue. There were 2 parts of Yenikoy Sile which included a mountainous upper village that had its own guerilla unit. It was a village of shepherds and there were tens of thousands of sheep. When they were threatened by neighboring people they would send in their small guerilla band that became well known for defending Christian interests. This is why the entire village was later deported and destroyed. You can translate this blog which includes excerpts from books. https://neoxori-xili.blogspot.com/?f...rN3Utmfx3RU5bA

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    I guess that for those who came from the area of Phocis\Φωκίδα, this interesting informations might be quite enlightening!

    https://i.imgur.com/i1FUgzQ.png

    https://i.imgur.com/XfjtZ5c.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/PVyQopN.jpg

    also - https://yfull.com/live/tree/I-Y18331/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exercitus View Post
    I guess that for those who came from the area of Phocis\Φωκίδα, this interesting informations might be quite enlightening!

    https://i.imgur.com/i1FUgzQ.png

    https://i.imgur.com/XfjtZ5c.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/PVyQopN.jpg

    also - https://yfull.com/live/tree/I-Y18331/
    How's the haplogroup connected to the demographic information you posted?

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