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    Es cuestion de tiempo que a TA le caiga la del pulpo como a Stormfront y lo cierren, o como minimo lo censuren. Los caciques de ese foro son gente que esta seriamente enferma y que tiene problemas mentales, no lo digo para descalificarlos, lo digo demasiado enserio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post

    But do not doubt that here there are also biases, they are manifested in other forms, but there are.
    I didn't intend on making Anthrogenica sound like the "perfect" place - on the internet, no place can/will be. And of course, I want to let you know that I agree with you regarding biases. It is inevitable that there will be people with certain biases, but it's crucial to be aware of them. In environments like these, one of the major biases to be cautious of is confirmation bias. The bias can be explained in this scenario: a person who looks through research with a very narrow lens, focusing only on specific parts that confirm what they wish to be true without ever considering evidence that doesn't fit its narrative. Additionally, it's pretty common for a person with this bias to construe the evidence to reinforce a certain agenda. It happens frequently, a lot in real-life arguments, and a lot more on online discussion boards. But I would argue that having biases can come down to normal human tendencies driven by a wanted perceived feeling of accomplishment, want to feel intelligent, and/or to have belief preservation.

    I feel like *moderation* is also a pretty important topic in facilitating healthy discussion. Certain sites make certain rules (like Anthrogenica) that fit their anthropology-science focus, while other sites seem to not definitively have rules, and instead go off a belief system in a less formal manner (like TA). The latter isn't for me, it could have been for you (let me know), but IMO it is why a lot of pseudo ideas and extraneous behaviors will be found on places like TA rather than places like here. I for one, appreciate that Anthrogenica does not permit talk about topics like phenotypes, or physical measurements, at least in the way and frequency other sites do. Here's an example seen on other sites: constant topics suggesting certain groups having to fit certain criteria of features, height, skin complexion, etc. to "fit" into a certain genetic group of people. Why don't I agree with this? Well, it forces an unscientific standard onto the discussion, based on generalizing our human genetic and physical complexities. What I mean by genetic and physical complexities is how genes are expressed in our genetic code and environmental factors that ultimately make us the way we are. In such a scenario, there are simply too many extraneous variables to look at for it to be pertinent to any valuable scientific discussion.

    Hope that clears some stuff up, amigo
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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    Me parto:

     


    Bueno, pues nada, fue bonito mientras duró.Al menos algunas veces.
    Last year I was banned for the exact same reason, but mine was true blasphemy because I had insulted Christianity and God using typically Italian epithets. Loki doesn't joke with religion, when it comes to Jesus he bans without thinking twice! All in all, we did well: better a ban than being burned at the stake in a public square haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    Last year I was banned for the exact same reason, but mine was true blasphemy because I had insulted Christianity and God using typically Italian epithets. Loki doesn't joke with religion, when it comes to Jesus he bans without thinking twice! All in all, we did well: better a ban than being burned at the stake in a public square haha

    My blasphemy was posting this video:

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    My blasphemy was posting this video:

     
    Qué poco sentido del humor tienen algunos eh… Monty Phyton es buenísimo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    My blasphemy was posting this video:

     
    HAHAHAHAHA, my ban instead was due to this bs:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia...mous_profanity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    HAHAHAHAHA, my ban instead was due to this bs:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia...mous_profanity
    This type of "blasphemies" is very common here in Spain as well, even in very religious people.

    They are not even blasphemy in themselves, they are not said with the intention of offending God, or the Christian religion, they are simply rude interjections, very common here in the Basque Country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    Ah vale, he mirado en los samples de Olalde y supongo que los samples pre-celtíberos serán los del dolmen de El Sotillo en Álava, y los del yacimiento de Hervías en la sierra riojana.

    Por cierto JJJ, mirando la tabla, están todo los hg de los samples de Olalde, no recuerdo si alguno coincidía con el tuyo:

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    I8343	05-SMG-8075	tooth	half	93034	M	J1c2c2	E1b1b1a(xE1b1b1a1)		Yes	NE_Iberia_Late_RomP	NE		500–600 CE	Empúries, Girona, Catalonia	42,1333	3,1083	Spain	This study	Marta Santos, Pere Castanyer, Joaquim Tremoleda
    
    I3778	T-269	tooth	half	28884	M	H4a1	E1b1b1a1b1		Yes	NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES	NE		600–700 CE	L'Esquerda, Roda de Ter, Barcelona, Catalonia	41,981377	2,309824	Spain	This study	Imma Ollich-Castanyer, Antònia Díaz-Carvajal
    
    I3776	T-267	tooth	half	31966	F	U5a1i1	E1b1b1a1b1a		Yes	NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES	NE		600–700 CE	L'Esquerda, Roda de Ter, Barcelona, Catalonia	41,981377	2,309824	Spain	This study	Imma Ollich-Castanyer, Antònia Díaz-Carvajal
    
    I3866	T-264	tooth	half	102647	M	U5a1b1	E1b1b1a1b1a		Yes	NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES	NE		600–700 CE	L'Esquerda, Roda de Ter, Barcelona, Catalonia	41,981377	2,309824	Spain	This study	Imma Ollich-Castanyer, Antònia Díaz-Carvajal
    
    I3775	T-266	bone 	half	117254	M	H3t	E1b1b1a1b1a		Yes	NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES	NE		600–700 CE	L'Esquerda, Roda de Ter, Barcelona, Catalonia	41,981377	2,309824	Spain	This study	Imma Ollich-Castanyer, Antònia Díaz-Carvajal
    
    I3777	T-268	bone 	half	325993	F	V17	E1b1b1b1		Yes	NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES	NE		600–700 CE	L'Esquerda, Roda de Ter, Barcelona, Catalonia	41,981377	2,309824	Spain	This study	Imma Ollich-Castanyer, Antònia Díaz-Carvajal
    
    I7674	T-143	tooth	half	27705	F	H42	E1b1b1b1		Yes	NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES	NE		785–801 CE [between conquest of Girona and conquest of Barcelona]	L'Esquerda, Roda de Ter, Barcelona, Catalonia	41,981377	2,309824	Spain	This study	Imma Ollich-Castanyer, Antònia Díaz-Carvajal
    
    I7672	T-120-1	tooth	half	57994	M	T2h	E1b1b1b1a1		Yes	NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES	NE		785–801 CE [between conquest of Girona and conquest of Barcelona]	L'Esquerda, Roda de Ter, Barcelona, Catalonia	41,981377	2,309824	Spain	This study	Imma Ollich-Castanyer, Antònia Díaz-Carvajal
    
    I7676	T-191	tooth	half	70706	F	U5a1c	E1b1b1b1a1		Yes	NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES	NE		785–801 CE [between conquest of Girona and conquest of Barcelona]	L'Esquerda, Roda de Ter, Barcelona, Catalonia	41,981377	2,309824	Spain	This study	Imma Ollich-Castanyer, Antònia Díaz-Carvajal
    Se me olvidaron estos:

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    I7158	MGA'92 UE 108	tooth	half	5395	M	T2b11	E1b1a1		No (Low coverage)	NE_Iberia_RomP	NE		200–500 CE	Mas Gassol, Alcover, Tarragona, Catalonia	41,274	1,178	Spain	This study	Josep Maria Vergès
    
    I6492	MGA'92 UE 105	tooth	half	9030	M	T2b11	E1b1b		No (Low coverage)	NE_Iberia_RomP	NE		200–500 CE	Mas Gassol, Alcover, Tarragona, Catalonia	41,274	1,178	Spain	This study	Josep Maria Vergès
    
    I6490	MGA'92-Resta II	tooth	half	87409	F	K1c2	E1b1b1		Yes	NE_Iberia_RomP	NE		200–500 CE	Mas Gassol, Alcover, Tarragona, Catalonia	41,274	1,178	Spain	This study	Josep Maria Vergès
    
    I6491	MGA'92-Resta III	tooth	half	20130	M	H4a1a	E1b1b1a		No (Contamination)	NE_Iberia_RomP	NE		200–500 CE	Mas Gassol, Alcover, Tarragona, Catalonia	41,274	1,178	Spain	This study	Josep Maria Vergès
    Esto es un post algo viejo, pero algo me llamo la atencion en el I6492, en el fichero de indo-european.eu pone que el haplogrupo es R1b1a1b1a1a2c1 y en el tuyo es E1b1b. El mtDNA pone el mismo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alejandromb92 View Post
    Esto es un post algo viejo, pero algo me llamo la atencion en el I6492, en el fichero de indo-european.eu pone que el haplogrupo es R1b1a1b1a1a2c1 y en el tuyo es E1b1b. El mtDNA pone el mismo.
    Pues no recuerdo de dónde saqué el excel con esa tabla, igual tomaron nuevas muestras, o usaron nuevos métodos o tecnologías con la muestra antigua y han corregido los primeros resultados .

    Desde luego un R1b1a1b1a1a2c1 parece bastante preciso para una muestra de baja calidad, aparte de que no tiene nada que ver con el antiguo E1b1b1a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    Pues no recuerdo de dónde saqué el excel con esa tabla, igual tomaron nuevas muestras, o usaron nuevos métodos o tecnologías con la muestra antigua y han corregido los primeros resultados .

    Desde luego un R1b1a1b1a1a2c1 parece bastante preciso para una muestra de baja calidad, aparte de que no tiene nada que ver con el antiguo E1b1b1a.
    Segun el fichero, ciertamente es un caso de low-coverage, con menos de 10.000 SNPs, que ciertamente no es mucho, un test comercial de estos que pagamos nosotros nos dan mas de 600.000. En caso de ser cierto, este seria el primer R-L21 confirmado.

    Hay otro L21 en el fichero, y que es demas de curioso:

    I3809
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    Nécropolis de Torna Alta, Mondújar (Lecrín), Granada, Andalusia

    Si se pudiera descargar de algun lado los datos en crudo de estas muestras o que esten en gedmatch publicados, seria fenomenal.

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