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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    Fair enough. I definitely wasn’t expecting Japanese though. I just wanted to confirm the Southern European or Scandinavian readings in commercial tests.

    Hence why I wondered why the hell it was there and how it could be explained.

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    I'd say even if you had 7% Iberian and 93% British on 23andme, that would still mean you're 100% British and or Irish. ~2% of something from the same continent doesn't really mean much as to where your recent ancestors came from, but it can imply something about the nature of your DNA. Some people of entirely British ancestry plot closer to the Irish, some plot near the Scandinavian sources, and some plot near the French/nearby continental sources. The fact that you got a little bit of Iberian suggests to me that you're entirely British/Irish, but you "lean" towards the continent.

    You could use G25 or the Celtic vs Germanic PCA to check your plot position, if you're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    I'd say even if you had 7% Iberian and 93% British on 23andme, that would still mean you're 100% British and or Irish. ~2% of something from the same continent doesn't really mean much as to where your recent ancestors came from, but it can imply something about the nature of your DNA. Some people of entirely British ancestry plot closer to the Irish, some plot near the Scandinavian sources, and some plot near the French/nearby continental sources. The fact that you got a little bit of Iberian suggests to me that you're entirely British/Irish, but you "lean" towards the continent.

    You could use G25 or the Celtic vs Germanic PCA to check your plot position, if you're interested.
    She has Portuguese surname in her family, If I am not wrong, so this can be real Iberian ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrylBojarski View Post
    It is great tool, to confirm what do you get on dna test
    Sometimes it lines up smoothly but in other cases it does not. You also have to have a lot of familiarity with the populations to make sense of it. If I was completely new to this and saw a bunch of G25 runs for my coordinates I'd probably go insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    I'd say even if you had 7% Iberian and 93% British on 23andme, that would still mean you're 100% British and or Irish. ~2% of something from the same continent doesn't really mean much as to where your recent ancestors came from, but it can imply something about the nature of your DNA. Some people of entirely British ancestry plot closer to the Irish, some plot near the Scandinavian sources, and some plot near the French/nearby continental sources. The fact that you got a little bit of Iberian suggests to me that you're entirely British/Irish, but you "lean" towards the continent.

    You could use G25 or the Celtic vs Germanic PCA to check your plot position, if you're interested.
    I was looking to confirm a few rumours about my family tree relating to a Portuguese ancestor. I felt like I wanted to take the test to see if it could be true. It is possible I could have ancestry from this area due to my family history in places like London and Gibraltar. Both could be true, I just need to do some more research to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrylBojarski View Post
    She has Portuguese surname in her family, If I am not wrong, so this can be real Iberian ancestry
    If she posts her co-ordinates I'm sure people here can try to help her with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    If she posts her co-ordinates I'm sure people here can try to help her with it
    lana6765_scaled,0.133173,0.129988,0.069767,0.05135 7,0.039392,0.012271,0.000235,0.008307,0.004704,0.0 05467,-0.012179,0.007643,-0.011744,-0.006606,0.019137,0.004906,-0.007823,-0.000887,-0.006788,0.00075,0.012353,-0.000866,0.000739,0.018798,-0.002994

    lana6765,0.0117,0.0128,0.0185,0.0159,0.0128,0.0044 ,0.0001,0.0036,0.0023,0.003,-0.0075,0.0051,-0.0079,-0.0048,0.0141,0.0037,-0.006,-0.0007,-0.0054,0.0006,0.0099,-0.0007,0.0006,0.0156,-0.0025

    Here

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    lana6765_scaled,0.133173,0.129988,0.069767,0.05135 7,0.039392,0.012271,0.000235,0.008307,0.004704,0.0 05467,-0.012179,0.007643,-0.011744,-0.006606,0.019137,0.004906,-0.007823,-0.000887,-0.006788,0.00075,0.012353,-0.000866,0.000739,0.018798,-0.002994

    lana6765,0.0117,0.0128,0.0185,0.0159,0.0128,0.0044 ,0.0001,0.0036,0.0023,0.003,-0.0075,0.0051,-0.0079,-0.0048,0.0141,0.0037,-0.006,-0.0007,-0.0054,0.0006,0.0099,-0.0007,0.0006,0.0156,-0.0025

    Here
    this is yours: aggregate

    Target: lana6765_scaled
    Distance: 1.9259% / 0.01925915
    57.8 British_Isles
    37.4 Fennoscandia
    4.2 Iberia
    0.6 America_Central

    non-aggregate

    Target: lana6765_scaled
    Distance: 1.8873% / 0.01887339
    60.4 British_Isles:Irish
    35.2 Fennoscandia:Swedish
    3.4 Iberia:Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.4 Melanesiaapuan
    0.4 Siberian:Yakut
    0.2 America_Andes:Quechua



    from this model:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....rld-K60-SCALED

    from the same model on page 3 here is mine for your comparison:

    Target: JerryS._scaled
    Distance: 1.7374% / 0.01737360
    81.2 British_Isles:Irish
    10.8 Western_Balkans:Bosnian
    5.4 Greece:Greek_Peloponnese
    2.4 Barbary_Coast:Berber_ALG_Chaoui
    0.2 Melanesiaapuan


    I usually get some Scandinavian because my German is so North German, coupled with my Scottish and English. However, here it shows all of my North Sea groups as British Isles: "Irish".
    Last edited by JerryS.; 11-12-2020 at 09:07 PM. Reason: added un-aggregate also

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    lana6765_scaled,0.133173,0.129988,0.069767,0.05135 7,0.039392,0.012271,0.000235,0.008307,0.004704,0.0 05467,-0.012179,0.007643,-0.011744,-0.006606,0.019137,0.004906,-0.007823,-0.000887,-0.006788,0.00075,0.012353,-0.000866,0.000739,0.018798,-0.002994

    lana6765,0.0117,0.0128,0.0185,0.0159,0.0128,0.0044 ,0.0001,0.0036,0.0023,0.003,-0.0075,0.0051,-0.0079,-0.0048,0.0141,0.0037,-0.006,-0.0007,-0.0054,0.0006,0.0099,-0.0007,0.0006,0.0156,-0.0025

    Here
    here is another of yours:

    Target: lana6765_scaled
    Distance: 1.0514% / 0.01051383
    90.2 Celto-Germanic
    7.0 Germanic
    2.8 Latin

    Target: lana6765_scaled
    Distance: 1.0514% / 0.01051441
    24.8 Celto-Germanic:Icelandic:NA15759
    18.0 Celto-Germanic:Scottish:Scottish6
    17.2 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish14
    14.4 Celto-Germanic:French_Brittany:Rennes_B_31
    7.0 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish63
    4.8 Germanic:Finnish_East:HG00187
    3.2 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish16
    2.6 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish2
    2.4 Latin:Basque_Spanish:BAS35
    2.2 Germanic:Estonian:Est380
    1.8 Celto-Germanic:English_Cornwall:HG00249
    0.8 Latin:ITA_Sardinia_Nuragic:I10552
    0.6 Celto-Germanic:Welsh:WalesCHF12
    0.2 Celto-Germanic:England_MBA:I7640


    from this model:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....nscaled/page13


    mine for comparison


    Target: JerryS._scaled
    Distance: 0.6829% / 0.00682900
    50.8 Celto-Germanic
    31.2 Germanic
    18.0 Latin

    Target: JerryS._scaled
    Distance: 0.6828% / 0.00682752
    30.2 Germanic:VK2020_SWE_Skara_VA:VK34
    11.8 Celto-Germanic:Icelandic:NA15757
    10.4 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish9
    10.2 Latin:Italian_Campania:NaN207MM
    6.8 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish23
    6.6 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish1
    4.8 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish2
    4.4 Latin:French_Provence:S_22
    4.0 Celto-Germanic:Irish:Irish8
    3.4 Celto-Germanic:Welsh:WalesDR99
    2.4 Latin:Sardinian:HGDP00671
    2.2 Celto-Germanic:England_Roman:6DT18
    1.2 Latin:French_Auvergne:C_9_2
    0.8 Germanic:Baltic_EST_BA:s19_X15_2
    0.8 Celto-Germanic:England_Saxon:I0161


    mind you, G25 data from different venders will produce different results, not by a lot but 2-3% here or there could be the difference between Iberian showing up or not showing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    lana6765_scaled,0.133173,0.129988,0.069767,0.05135 7,0.039392,0.012271,0.000235,0.008307,0.004704,0.0 05467,-0.012179,0.007643,-0.011744,-0.006606,0.019137,0.004906,-0.007823,-0.000887,-0.006788,0.00075,0.012353,-0.000866,0.000739,0.018798,-0.002994

    lana6765,0.0117,0.0128,0.0185,0.0159,0.0128,0.0044 ,0.0001,0.0036,0.0023,0.003,-0.0075,0.0051,-0.0079,-0.0048,0.0141,0.0037,-0.006,-0.0007,-0.0054,0.0006,0.0099,-0.0007,0.0006,0.0156,-0.0025

    Here
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post719339

    I hope this is of some help, but I don't think it is, really!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post719339

    I hope this is of some help, but I don't think it is, really!
    My great grandmother claimed her ancestor was named ### DeFreitas and there was something about Madiera as well. Without proof I have absolutely no idea if this was true. If it wasn't then she had an overactive imagination, but if it was then it's likely to be a 3rd-5th great grandparent. It wouldn't make up a significant chunk of my DNA. But I don't care: I just want to know.

    I did get European matches, mostly from Scandinavia and Finland.

    I got some interesting Spanish, Portuguese and Italian ones, but it's inconclusive. They were on MyHeritage and GEDmatch only:
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....Are-We-Related
    Last edited by lana6765; 11-12-2020 at 11:35 PM.

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