Greek Z2103 - its age, distribution and ancient ethnic identity

[Jatt1]

Exactly, and this is why I wanted to invest in FTDNA to explore my Y chromosome further. My kit is being shipped now, can't wait to send it back and get my results.

Have you uploaded your data here, it is for free and have largest R1b tree: https://ydna-warehouse.org/

[bovefex]

23ame just gave me R-L23, which isn't technically wrong, and told me I share a common ancestor with some legendary Irish king "of the three rivers" or something, rofl, what nonsense.

I mean, technically neither of these are wrong. You belong to R-L23 and you also share a paternal ancestor with that Irish king (actually with everyone who is R1b, lol).

[XXD]

Have you uploaded your data here, it is for free and have largest R1b tree: https://ydna-warehouse.org/

I am still waiting for my FTDNA data (I posted my kit a month ago, it is still in transit). So far, the only data I have are from 23andme and the Morley Y calculator. When I have my FTDNA results, I will post it there and on Yfull.

[XXD]

I mean, technically neither of these are wrong. You belong to R-L23 and you also share a paternal ancestor with that Irish king (actually with everyone who is R1b, lol).

But it is very misleading. The problem is that most of these testing companies are tailored for white, Northwestern Europeans. They are quite imprecise for most other populations.

[bovefex]

But it is very misleading. The problem is that most of these testing companies are tailored for white, Northwestern Europeans. They are quite imprecise for most other populations.

Very true. Someone with less knowledge of the subject might think they are actually descended from said king. In fact, I remember someone think they were royalty, just because they shared a haplogroup with Marie Antoinette.

[dosas]

Very true. Someone with less knowledge of the subject might think they are actually descended from said king. In fact, I remember someone think they were royalty, just because they shared a haplogroup with Marie Antoinette.

The Facebook group of MTA is pure comedy gold, if you feel like it (sorry for off-topic). People arguing who is more royal than the other. And when someone asks how is it possible to share 50 centimorgans with a dead king, 500 years ago, or even thousands, they all mob on them for daring question their royal blood, rofl.

Give it a go, if you're bored with TV.