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    Quote Originally Posted by XXD View Post
    Thank you very much! I just ordered my G25, will post them in my original thread.

    Regarding my Y chromosome, which is on topic, is it worth testing with FTDNA with Y37, or should I only go for the Big Y (for which I would have to save money for a LONG time). What I want to say is, will I be able to (roughly) determine the affinities of my Y chromosome with a Y37 kit?

    Also, given my Y chromosome being downstream from Z2103 and Z2106, which kit would you recommend?

    Thanks!
    I would go for 67 rather than 37 if you want meaningful results, even then there is no guarantee. Big Y is better offcourse. How did you test before, an SNP pack?

    If you want quick and cheap answers testing SNP's at Yseq is also a a solution. Do you have negatives under CTS9219? This would test a lot of SNP's under CTS9219 for a reasonable price: https://www.yseq.net/product_info.ph...ducts_id=45794
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    Ye,you might have some Cappadocian or Pontic Greek ancestry.It will be easier to check it with G25.I don't think you have any east asian admixture.Such admixtures can estimate better with G25 rather with gedmatch.
    Thank you so much!

    Just posted my G25 here:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....482#post724482

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafc View Post
    I would go for 67 rather than 37 if you want meaningful results, even then there is no guarantee. Big Y is better offcourse. How did you test before, an SNP pack?

    If you want quick and cheap answers testing SNP's at Yseq is also a a solution. Do you have negatives under CTS9219? This would test a lot of SNP's under CTS9219 for a reasonable price: https://www.yseq.net/product_info.ph...ducts_id=45794
    Thank you so much for your insightful info! No, I only got my Y chromosome results in 23andme, and it only says CTS9219...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafc View Post
    I would go for 67 rather than 37 if you want meaningful results, even then there is no guarantee. Big Y is better offcourse. How did you test before, an SNP pack?

    If you want quick and cheap answers testing SNP's at Yseq is also a a solution. Do you have negatives under CTS9219? This would test a lot of SNP's under CTS9219 for a reasonable price: https://www.yseq.net/product_info.ph...ducts_id=45794
    I decided I really want to explore my Y chromosome roots further. I will try to order in the coming weeks the FTDNA 67 package, and will post my results here when available. Given that my paternal origin is from 17th century Chios, and a likely deeper origin from Pontus, the results might be interesting.

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    If you think Yseq could also give me answers I could do that instead (better from my budget). I currently only have CTS9219, without any further SNP's. This is all that 23andme provided me with...My primary objective is to see, if possible, with which population groups my Y chromosome is associated with e.g. Balkans/Albania, or something more exotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXD View Post
    If you think Yseq could also give me answers I could do that instead (better from my budget). I currently only have CTS9219, without any further SNP's. This is all that 23andme provided me with...My primary objective is to see, if possible, with which population groups my Y chromosome is associated with e.g. Balkans/Albania, or something more exotic.
    I can confirm your Y line is not Basque, if that's why it's in the sig, not sure.
    YDNA: R1b-BY50830 Stepney, London, UK George Wood b. 1782 English <-> Bavarian cluster
    m gf YDNA: ?? Gurr, James ~1740, Smarden, Kent, England.
    m gm YDNA: R1b-P311+ Beech, John Richard b. 1780, Lewes, England
    m ggf YDNA R1b-U106 Thomas, Edward b 1854, Sittingbourne, Kent
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-Z17901. Gould, John Somerset England 1800s.
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Scott, William Hamilton Ireland(?) 1800s

    other:
    Turner: R-U152
    Welch: early 1800s E-M84 Kent, England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXD View Post
    I decided I really want to explore my Y chromosome roots further. I will try to order in the coming weeks the FTDNA 67 package, and will post my results here when available. Given that my paternal origin is from 17th century Chios, and a likely deeper origin from Pontus, the results might be interesting.
    Why FTDNA 67 package, just order Big Y 700, and if it is too expensive for you then buy WGS 30X, it will also give you your mtDNA at https://nebula.org/whole-genome-sequencing/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    I can confirm your Y line is not Basque, if that's why it's in the sig, not sure.
    Haha thanks but I included the Basque flag because my other half is from there :p

    I read that CTS9219 is more commonly found in Slavic people - so it could be from them?
    distance: 1.656775
    Ancient Greece/Balkans: 51.6
    Avar_Szolad: 22.6
    Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps: 16.4
    Levant_Ashkelon_LBA: 5.2
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: 1.8
    MAR_Taforalt: 1.4
    CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA: 0.4
    Yoruba: 0.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    Why FTDNA 67 package, just order Big Y 700, and if it is too expensive for you then buy WGS 30X, it will also give you your mtDNA at https://nebula.org/whole-genome-sequencing/
    So you mean I can use WGS 30X as an alternative to FTDNA? And it will give me Y chromosome results of similar accuracy to FTDNA?
    distance: 1.656775
    Ancient Greece/Balkans: 51.6
    Avar_Szolad: 22.6
    Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps: 16.4
    Levant_Ashkelon_LBA: 5.2
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: 1.8
    MAR_Taforalt: 1.4
    CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA: 0.4
    Yoruba: 0.6

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    There is only one rope R1b-CTS9219 at the Slavs https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y14300/

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