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    Greek MyHeritage+Gedmatch results (7/8 Achaean 1/8 from Lamia)

    He is my friend's maternal grandfather.
    Most of his known ancestors,with the exception of a paternal great-grandfather who is his direct paternal line and was from Lamia,were from an area near Panachaiko mountain in Achaia.

    His results are the expected based on his ancestry, basically arvanite/thessalian/western greek like results. Based on some unexpected findings there are other,serious implications though ...

    But first, his Myheritage results. Completed in only 9 days, they seem to be noisy scoring both the infamous 1% Ashkenazi Jewish and the 1% Nigerian.


    Could it be that the raw DNA data is also noisy ? He scores less than 2% of various east,southeast asian and or african components on gedmatch calcs, the components depending on the calc used.

    As for the unexpected findings...My friend doesn't show up on his list of genetic relatives, neither are his other matches... Using the gedmatch tools on his raw data he also doesn't show shared SNPs with my friend.
    Now,this clearly points to a recent non paternity event but could it be a case of mixed up samples during the analysis or non correctly harvested swab sample ?
    In a few days my friend's mother will have her results too, hopefully it will help clearing up the confusion because right now, both my friend and his mother are seriously freaked out.
    To be clear, any non paternity event can only be between my friend's mother and her father because my friend's list of genetic relatives has people known to be distant relatives from his father's side and also probable relatives (based on the areas their surnames are distributed) from his maternal grandmother's side. Unfortunately his maternal grandmother is dead and for obvious reasons it's not something he can discuss with his maternal grandfather

    Any help appreciated... His GEDMATCH results, YDNA prediction are on the next post, his G25 coordinates will follow when they're ready

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    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	East_Med	24.69
    2	West_Med	22.23
    3	North_Atlantic	20.06
    4	Baltic	17.3
    5	West_Asian	10.78
    6	Red_Sea	1.73
    7	East_Asian	1.33
    8	Sub-Saharan	1
    9	Oceanian	0.77
    10	Amerindian	0.06
    11	Northeast_African	0.04
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Greek_Thessaly	3.72
    2	Bulgarian	8.47
    3	Central_Greek	9.46
    4	Tuscan	9.67
    5	Italian_Abruzzo	9.77
    6	West_Sicilian	9.91
    7	Romanian	10.63
    8	East_Sicilian	10.65
    9	Ashkenazi	12.69
    10	North_Italian	12.97
    11	South_Italian	13.19
    12	Serbian	14.63
    13	Algerian_Jewish	18.49
    14	Italian_Jewish	18.68
    15	Sephardic_Jewish	19.21
    16	Moldavian	20.46
    17	Portuguese	20.86
    18	Spanish_Extremadura	21.25
    19	Spanish_Galicia	21.86
    20	Spanish_Andalucia	22.27
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	54.5%	Bulgarian	+	45.5%	West_Sicilian	@	3.22
    2	 	93.7%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.3%	Southwest_French	@	3.28
    3	 	93%	Greek_Thessaly	+	7%	Spanish_Valencia	@	3.32
    4	 	93.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.2%	Spanish_Cantabria	@	3.33
    5	 	93.1%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.9%	Spanish_Cataluna	@	3.33
    6	 	95.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	4.1%	French_Basque	@	3.34
    7	 	88.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.4%	North_Italian	@	3.35
    8	 	93.4%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.6%	Spanish_Andalucia	@	3.38
    9	 	94.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	5.4%	Spanish_Aragon	@	3.39
    10	 	93.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.2%	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon	@	3.4
    11	 	94.1%	Greek_Thessaly	+	5.9%	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha	@	3.41
    12	 	93.3%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.7%	Portuguese	@	3.41
    13	 	95.5%	Greek_Thessaly	+	4.5%	Sardinian	@	3.41
    14	 	93.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.2%	Spanish_Murcia	@	3.42
    15	 	93.7%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.3%	Spanish_Galicia	@	3.43
    16	 	93.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	6.2%	Spanish_Extremadura	@	3.46
    17	 	84.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	15.1%	Bulgarian	@	3.46
    18	 	95.2%	Greek_Thessaly	+	4.8%	East_German	@	3.48
    19	 	95%	Greek_Thessaly	+	5%	Austrian	@	3.49
    20	 	94.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	5.2%	French	@	3.49
    
    Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
    
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	East_Med	24.69
    2	West_Med	22.23
    3	North_Atlantic	20.06
    4	Baltic	17.30
    5	West_Asian	10.78
    6	Red_Sea	1.73
    7	East_Asian	1.33
    
    
    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.
    
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    Least-squares method.
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek_Thessaly @ 3.927622
    2 Bulgarian @ 9.557183
    3 Central_Greek @ 10.708405
    4 Tuscan @ 10.926871
    5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.998326
    6 West_Sicilian @ 11.152755
    7 East_Sicilian @ 11.971867
    8 Romanian @ 12.044098
    9 Ashkenazi @ 14.446675
    10 North_Italian @ 14.866632
    11 South_Italian @ 14.978918
    12 Serbian @ 16.672079
    13 Algerian_Jewish @ 21.018536
    14 Italian_Jewish @ 21.289394
    15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.777895
    16 Moldavian @ 23.349262
    17 Portuguese @ 24.055365
    18 Spanish_Extremadura @ 24.443201
    19 Spanish_Galicia @ 25.218510
    20 Spanish_Andalucia @ 25.591909
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian +50% West_Sicilian @ 3.590729
    
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian +25% West_Sicilian +25% West_Sicilian @ 3.590729
    
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 2.604050
    2 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Ukrainian @ 2.867522
    3 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 2.942808
    4 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian @ 3.045936
    5 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.053868
    6 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.110376
    7 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Polish + Sardinian @ 3.133389
    8 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.180911
    9 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.200692
    10 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.259320
    11 Croatian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Serbian @ 3.279143
    12 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.315340
    13 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.323547
    14 Lebanese_Druze + Moldavian + Sardinian + Serbian @ 3.351990
    15 Croatian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian @ 3.381991
    16 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + West_Sicilian @ 3.445359
    17 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 3.490747
    18 Bulgarian + Croatian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 3.504777
    19 Algerian_Jewish + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + North_Italian @ 3.520724
    20 Lebanese_Druze + Moldavian + Moldavian + Sardinian @ 3.547904
    Eurogenes K15

    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	East_Med	21.03
    2	West_Med	18.02
    3	Atlantic	17.57
    4	Baltic	12.63
    5	West_Asian	11.87
    6	North_Sea	10.49
    7	Eastern_Euro	3.98
    8	Red_Sea	2.06
    9	Sub-Saharan	0.84
    10	Southeast_Asian	0.76
    11	Oceanian	0.68
    12	Northeast_African	0.08
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Greek	4.43
    2	Greek_Thessaly	6.73
    3	Tuscan	7.68
    4	Bulgarian	8.39
    5	Italian_Abruzzo	8.53
    6	Central_Greek	9.17
    7	West_Sicilian	9.29
    8	East_Sicilian	9.99
    9	Romanian	10.97
    10	Ashkenazi	11.46
    11	North_Italian	11.5
    12	South_Italian	11.52
    13	Serbian	14.48
    14	Italian_Jewish	16.37
    15	Sephardic_Jewish	17.1
    16	Algerian_Jewish	17.24
    17	Spanish_Andalucia	18.35
    18	Portuguese	18.69
    19	Spanish_Extremadura	18.71
    20	Spanish_Murcia	18.95
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	85.1%	Greek	+	14.9%	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon	@	2.89
    2	 	85.4%	Greek	+	14.6%	Spanish_Cataluna	@	2.99
    3	 	87.3%	Greek	+	12.7%	Spanish_Cantabria	@	3.06
    4	 	87.5%	Greek	+	12.5%	Southwest_French	@	3.06
    5	 	85%	Greek	+	15%	Spanish_Andalucia	@	3.08
    6	 	85.8%	Greek	+	14.2%	Spanish_Valencia	@	3.08
    7	 	77.7%	Greek	+	22.3%	North_Italian	@	3.08
    8	 	87.6%	Greek	+	12.4%	Spanish_Aragon	@	3.1
    9	 	85.6%	Greek	+	14.4%	Spanish_Murcia	@	3.13
    10	 	85.4%	Greek	+	14.6%	Portuguese	@	3.13
    11	 	91%	Greek	+	9%	French_Basque	@	3.14
    12	 	86.8%	Greek	+	13.2%	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha	@	3.15
    13	 	86%	Greek	+	14%	Spanish_Galicia	@	3.16
    14	 	85.7%	Greek	+	14.3%	Spanish_Extremadura	@	3.2
    15	 	88.4%	Greek	+	11.6%	French	@	3.38
    16	 	91.7%	Greek	+	8.3%	Southwest_English	@	3.5
    17	 	71.9%	Greek	+	28.1%	Tuscan	@	3.54
    18	 	92.1%	Greek	+	7.9%	Southeast_English	@	3.57
    19	 	90.4%	Greek	+	9.6%	South_Dutch	@	3.57
    20	 	92.5%	Greek	+	7.5%	Irish	@	3.57
    
    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
    
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	East_Med	21.03
    2	West_Med	18.02
    3	Atlantic	17.57
    4	Baltic	12.63
    5	West_Asian	11.87
    6	North_Sea	10.49
    7	Eastern_Euro	3.98
    8	Red_Sea	2.06
    
    
    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.
    
    --------------------------------
    
    Least-squares method.
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek @ 5.092022
    2 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.720819
    3 Tuscan @ 8.695955
    4 Bulgarian @ 9.664805
    5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.672360
    6 Central_Greek @ 10.549465
    7 West_Sicilian @ 10.583861
    8 East_Sicilian @ 11.337139
    9 Romanian @ 12.685031
    10 Ashkenazi @ 12.933096
    11 North_Italian @ 13.324771
    12 South_Italian @ 13.337761
    13 Serbian @ 16.870102
    14 Italian_Jewish @ 18.821297
    15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 19.607115
    16 Algerian_Jewish @ 19.856298
    17 Spanish_Andalucia @ 21.375921
    18 Spanish_Extremadura @ 21.788559
    19 Portuguese @ 21.802649
    20 Spanish_Murcia @ 22.108116
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +50% Tuscan @ 4.536656
    
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +25% Greek +25% North_Italian @ 3.430467
    
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Greek + Greek + Greek + North_Italian @ 3.430467
    2 Bulgarian + Greek + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 3.509825
    3 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + Tuscan @ 3.511085
    4 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek + North_Italian @ 3.771708
    5 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + North_Italian @ 3.835896
    6 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.851481
    7 Greek + Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 3.862688
    8 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Cyprian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.867276
    9 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek + North_Italian @ 3.906075
    10 Greek + Greek + Greek + Tuscan @ 3.958799
    11 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Greek + Southwest_French @ 3.988158
    12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Cyprian + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.010437
    13 Greek + North_Italian + Romanian + South_Italian @ 4.023858
    14 Greek + Greek + Romanian + Tuscan @ 4.047952
    15 Bulgarian + Greek + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.054014
    16 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 4.061903
    17 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek + Tuscan @ 4.113246
    18 Bulgarian + Greek + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 4.126570
    19 Greek + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.156217
    20 Greek + Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.161187
    Eurogenes K36

    Code:
    Population	 
    Amerindian	-    
    Arabian	-    
    Armenian	5.33 Pct
    Basque	-    
    Central_African	-    
    Central_Euro	-    
    East_African	-    
    East_Asian	-    
    East_Balkan	9.18 Pct
    East_Central_Asian	-    
    East_Central_Euro	3.82 Pct
    East_Med	8.58 Pct
    Eastern_Euro	5.88 Pct
    Fennoscandian	0.05 Pct
    French	2.45 Pct
    Iberian	9.67 Pct
    Indo-Chinese	-    
    Italian	24.89 Pct
    Malayan	-    
    Near_Eastern	6.79 Pct
    North_African	0.1 Pct
    North_Atlantic	8.11 Pct
    North_Caucasian	-    
    North_Sea	2.36 Pct
    Northeast_African	-    
    Oceanian	0.2 Pct
    Omotic	-    
    Pygmy	0.07 Pct
    Siberian	-    
    South_Asian	1.29 Pct
    South_Central_Asian	-    
    South_Chinese	-    
    Volga-Ural	-    
    West_African	-    
    West_Caucasian	4.49 Pct
    West_Med	6.74 Pct
    Dodecad K12b

    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	Caucasus	32.19
    2	Atlantic_Med	29.1
    3	North_European	23.27
    4	Southwest_Asian	7.25
    5	Gedrosia	3.85
    6	Northwest_African	1.74
    7	Southeast_Asian	1.33
    8	South_Asian	1.09
    9	Sub_Saharan	0.15
    10	East_African	0.03
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	O_Italian (Dodecad)	6.2
    2	Greek (Dodecad)	6.47
    3	C_Italian (Dodecad)	8.15
    4	Tuscan (HGDP)	9.63
    5	TSI30 (Metspalu)	10.45
    6	Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)	11.95
    7	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	12.05
    8	Sicilian (Dodecad)	12.33
    9	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	12.49
    10	Romanians (Behar)	13.12
    11	Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)	13.13
    12	Ashkenazi (Dodecad)	13.38
    13	N_Italian (Dodecad)	14.31
    14	North_Italian (HGDP)	16.41
    15	Sephardic_Jews (Behar)	19.37
    16	Morocco_Jews (Behar)	21.23
    17	Baleares (1000Genomes)	25.07
    18	Turkish (Dodecad)	25.41
    19	Galicia (1000Genomes)	26.17
    20	Cypriots (Behar)	26.37
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	60.3%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	39.7%	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	@	2.41
    2	 	84.5%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	15.5%	Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)	@	2.63
    3	 	85.2%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	14.8%	Dutch (Dodecad)	@	2.66
    4	 	85.7%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	14.3%	CEU30 (1000Genomes)	@	2.66
    5	 	85.8%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	14.2%	English (Dodecad)	@	2.67
    6	 	60.2%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	39.8%	Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)	@	2.67
    7	 	85.6%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	14.4%	Kent (1000Genomes)	@	2.68
    8	 	86.2%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	13.8%	British_Isles (Dodecad)	@	2.68
    9	 	86.8%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	13.2%	Orkney (1000Genomes)	@	2.69
    10	 	86.6%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	13.4%	Argyll (1000Genomes)	@	2.7
    11	 	86.8%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	13.2%	Orcadian (HGDP)	@	2.7
    12	 	86.7%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	13.3%	Irish (Dodecad)	@	2.71
    13	 	86.3%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	13.7%	British (Dodecad)	@	2.74
    14	 	86.1%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	13.9%	Cornwall (1000Genomes)	@	2.75
    15	 	51.6%	Sicilian (Dodecad)	+	48.4%	Romanians (Behar)	@	2.8
    16	 	62.7%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	37.3%	Romanians (Behar)	@	2.83
    17	 	87.8%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	12.2%	Norwegian (Dodecad)	@	2.85
    18	 	84.3%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	15.7%	German (Dodecad)	@	2.92
    19	 	83.4%	Greek (Dodecad)	+	16.6%	French (HGDP)	@	3.01
    20	 	51.3%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	+	48.7%	Romanians (Behar)	@	3.03
    
    Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle
    
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	Caucasus	32.19
    2	Atlantic_Med	29.10
    3	North_European	23.27
    4	Southwest_Asian	7.25
    5	Gedrosia	3.85
    6	Northwest_African	1.74
    7	Southeast_Asian	1.33
    8	South_Asian	1.09
    
    
    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    12 components mode.
    
    --------------------------------
    
    Least-squares method.
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 6.695875
    2 Greek_Dodecad @ 7.095695
    3 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 8.769273
    4 Tuscan_HGDP @ 10.350053
    5 TSI30_Metspalu @ 11.252002
    6 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 12.970367
    7 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 13.087984
    8 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 13.408428
    9 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 13.575165
    10 Romanians_Behar @ 14.291318
    11 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 14.301065
    12 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 14.539511
    13 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.608073
    14 North_Italian_HGDP @ 17.814030
    15 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 21.029770
    16 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 22.983118
    17 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 27.451918
    18 Turkish_Dodecad @ 27.670401
    19 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 28.815475
    20 Cypriots_Behar @ 28.927486
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Romanians_Behar +50% Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.917039
    
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarians_Yunusbayev +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +25% TSI30_Metspalu @ 2.345545
    
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Armenians_Behar + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 1.882722
    2 Armenians_Behar + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Sardinian_HGDP @ 1.887769
    3 Armenians_Behar + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Sardinian_HGDP @ 1.987683
    4 Armenians_Behar + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 2.012301
    5 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 2.083432
    6 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + O_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.132678
    7 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.143741
    8 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Greek_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.252699
    9 Bulgarian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.265838
    10 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Romanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Tuscan_HGDP @ 2.298969
    11 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 2.306560
    12 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Bulgarian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.332853
    13 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + C_Italian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.339270
    14 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu @ 2.345545
    15 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Tuscan_HGDP @ 2.348749
    16 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 2.373058
    17 C_Italian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 2.376912
    18 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + O_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.397562
    19 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.409793
    20 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Romanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu @ 2.411879
    MDLP K23b

    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	Caucasian	37.63
    2	European_Early_Farmers	24.93
    3	European_Hunters_Gatherers	20.14
    4	Near_East	6.16
    5	South_Central_Asian	3.14
    6	Australoid	2.1
    7	North_African	1.93
    8	Ancestral_Altaic	1.24
    9	East_African	1.09
    10	Amerindian	0.88
    11	East_Siberian	0.62
    12	African_Pygmy	0.13
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Kosovar ( )	2.87
    2	Albanian_Tirana ( )	3.21
    3	Greek_Thessaly ( )	3.35
    4	Greek_Northwest ( )	3.97
    5	Greek_Peloponnesos ( )	4.43
    6	Greek_Thessaloniki ( )	4.55
    7	Sicilian_Siracusa ( )	6.29
    8	Central_Greek ( )	6.34
    9	Ashkenazi ( )	6.91
    10	Ashkenazi_Jew ( )	7.22
    11	Bulgarian ( )	7.76
    12	Macedonian ( )	8.05
    13	Italian_Abruzzo ( )	8.3
    14	Sicilian_East ( )	8.32
    15	Romanian_Jew ( )	8.41
    16	Sicilian_Trapani ( )	8.61
    17	Sicilian_Center ( )	8.77
    18	Sicilian_West ( )	8.95
    19	Sicilian_Agrigento ( )	9.04
    20	French_Jew ( )	9.29
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	93.2%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	6.8%	French ( )	@	2.15
    2	 	94.5%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	5.5%	Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( )	@	2.17
    3	 	94%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	6%	Spaniard ( )	@	2.17
    4	 	95.3%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	4.7%	Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( )	@	2.18
    5	 	94.5%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	5.5%	Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( )	@	2.18
    6	 	94.4%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	5.6%	Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( )	@	2.18
    7	 	94.5%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	5.5%	Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( )	@	2.19
    8	 	93.1%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	6.9%	English_Kent_GBR ( )	@	2.19
    9	 	95.1%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	4.9%	Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( )	@	2.19
    10	 	94.8%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	5.2%	Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( )	@	2.19
    11	 	94.7%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	5.3%	Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( )	@	2.2
    12	 	92.9%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	7.1%	Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( )	@	2.2
    13	 	95.1%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	4.9%	Colombian ( )	@	2.2
    14	 	93.8%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	6.2%	Portugese ( )	@	2.2
    15	 	95.3%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	4.7%	Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( )	@	2.2
    16	 	94.9%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	5.1%	Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( )	@	2.2
    17	 	93.6%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	6.4%	Welsh ( )	@	2.2
    18	 	95.7%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	4.3%	French_South ( )	@	2.2
    19	 	93.7%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	6.3%	British ( )	@	2.21
    20	 	96.6%	Albanian_Tirana ( )	+	3.4%	Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( )	@	2.21
    
    MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle
    
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	Caucasian	37.63
    2	European_Early_Farmers	24.93
    3	European_Hunters_Gatherers	20.14
    4	Near_East	6.16
    5	South_Central_Asian	3.14
    6	Australoid	2.10
    7	North_African	1.93
    8	Ancestral_Altaic	1.24
    9	East_African	1.09
    
    
    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.
    
    --------------------------------
    
    Least-squares method.
    
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 2.801378
    2 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 3.318026
    3 Kosovar_ @ 3.698566
    4 Greek_Northwest_ @ 3.883727
    5 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 4.287706
    6 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 4.530814
    7 Central_Greek_ @ 5.395383
    8 Greek_ @ 8.602624
    9 Greek_Athens_ @ 9.047677
    10 Ashkenazi_ @ 9.086744
    11 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 9.720438
    12 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 9.977396
    13 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 10.675898
    14 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 10.692683
    15 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 10.838719
    16 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 10.903772
    17 Romanian_Jew_ @ 11.001445
    18 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 11.082608
    19 Italian_South_ @ 11.269232
    20 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 11.292611
    
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian_Tirana_ +50% Kosovar_ @ 2.769433
    
    
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian_Tirana_ +25% Greek_Thessaloniki_ +25% Italian_Tuscan_ @ 2.569397
    
    
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Albanian_Tirana_ + Gagauz_ + Greek_Athens_ + Italian_Bergamo_ @ 2.452473
    2 Albanian_Tirana_ + Gagauz_ + Greek_ + Italian_Bergamo_ @ 2.537487
    3 Gagauz_ + Greek_Athens_ + Greek_Thessaly_ + Italian_Bergamo_ @ 2.543720
    4 Albanian_Tirana_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Italian_Tuscan_ @ 2.554407
    5 Gagauz_ + Greek_Athens_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Kosovar_ @ 2.562616
    6 Albanian_Tirana_ + Albanian_Tirana_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Italian_Tuscan_ @ 2.569397
    7 Kosovar_ + Kosovar_ + Kosovar_ + Romanian_Jew_ @ 2.570691
    8 Albanian_Tirana_ + Gagauz_ + Italian_Bergamo_ + Italian_South_ @ 2.583906
    9 Central_Greek_ + Central_Greek_ + Gagauz_ + Italian_Bergamo_ @ 2.600462
    10 Albanian_Tirana_ + Gagauz_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + Kosovar_ @ 2.600913
    11 Albanian_Tirana_ + Central_Greek_ + Gagauz_ + Italian_Piedmont_ @ 2.604605
    12 Albanian_Tirana_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Italian_Piedmont_ @ 2.608940
    13 Albanian_Tirana_ + Bulgarian_ + Greek_Athens_ + Italian_Piedmont_ @ 2.617637
    14 Albanian_Tirana_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Greek_Thessaly_ + Italian_Tuscan_ @ 2.619228
    15 Gagauz_ + Greek_Athens_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Italian_Bergamo_ @ 2.621182
    16 Albanian_Tirana_ + Albanian_Tirana_ + Albanian_Tirana_ + Kosovar_ @ 2.630497
    17 Central_Greek_ + Gagauz_ + Greek_Athens_ + Italian_Bergamo_ @ 2.634193
    18 Albanian_Tirana_ + Greek_Macedonia_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Kosovar_ @ 2.638470
    19 Greek_Athens_ + Kosovar_ + Kosovar_ + Kosovar_ @ 2.649394
    20 Albanian_Tirana_ + Albanian_Tirana_ + Gagauz_ + Italian_Tuscan_ @ 2.651585
    YDNA PREDICTION
    (his direct paternal line is from Lamia)


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    Greece Greek Macedonia Empire of Trebizond Byzantine Empire
    R-Z2103 downstream predicted by Morley.

    He should invest in proper Y-testing!
    55.8% Greek Central Macedonia + 44.2% Greek Trabzon @ 1.46

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    Quote Originally Posted by dosas View Post
    R-Z2103 downstream predicted by Morley.

    He should invest in proper Y-testing!
    Isn't the R-Z2103 in general the most common major R1b subclade in Greece ?

    He could but he currently lacks the funds and even if he was able there is a serious possibility of a non paternity event between him (the grandfather) and my friend's mother so until the situation resolves, he is awaiting his mother's results, he doesn't feel like investing more...
    Oh well...the dangers of dna testing

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    Isn't the R-Z2103 in general the most common major R1b subclade in Greece ?

    He could but he currently lacks the funds and even if he was able there is a serious possibility of a non paternity event between him (the grandfather) and my friend's mother so until the situation resolves, he is awaiting his mother's results, he doesn't feel like investing more...
    Oh well...the dangers of dna testing

    I don't think it's the most common, I mean I don't know for sure but I don't think it is.

    Y-DNA testing will help with the truth, but it's his money I guess.
    55.8% Greek Central Macedonia + 44.2% Greek Trabzon @ 1.46

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    Where from Achaia he has roots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    Isn't the R-Z2103 in general the most common major R1b subclade in Greece ?

    He could but he currently lacks the funds and even if he was able there is a serious possibility of a non paternity event between him (the grandfather) and my friend's mother so until the situation resolves, he is awaiting his mother's results, he doesn't feel like investing more...
    Oh well...the dangers of dna testing
    This specific haplo/clade, it would be a really good investment for him.It is an important lineage for the west eurasia area.I don't know his economics but he can buy a cheap test now at X-MAS to have an idea.

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    Most of his Achaean ancestors were from somewhere around the highlighted area,mostly from Tsetsevochoria

    https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A4...90%CE%B1%CF%82

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    Quote Originally Posted by dosas View Post
    I don't think it's the most common, I mean I don't know for sure but I don't think it is.

    Y-DNA testing will help with the truth, but it's his money I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    This specific haplo/clade, it would be a really good investment for him.It is an important lineage for the west eurasia area.I don't know his economics but he can buy a cheap test now at X-MAS to have an idea.
    Which test would you suggest ? He is waiting for a possible black friday deal from dantelabs for himself but for his maternal grandfather something cheaper should do, he isn't his line in the end of the day .

    In any case unfortunately it'll not help much with the truth as his direct male descendants aren't available for testing/easy to get hold of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    Most of his Achaean ancestors were from somewhere around the highlighted area,mostly from Tsetsevochoria

    https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A4...90%CE%B1%CF%82
    Hmm,Slavic-Vlach area taking also serious the toponyms there.Achaia in general is a more northern shifted region for the Peloponnese standards.But still your lad is not so northern as Macedonian_Greeks are.Anyways,convince him to discover his haplogroup... worth it trust me.

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