Greek MyHeritage+Gedmatch results (7/8 Achaean 1/8 from Lamia)

[xripkan]

Which test would you suggest ? He is waiting for a possible black friday deal from dantelabs for himself but for his maternal grandfather something cheaper should do, he isn't his line in the end of the day .

In any case unfortunately it'll not help much with the truth as his direct male descendants aren't available for testing/easy to get hold of.

A cheaper option would be R1b-Z2103 panel from YSEQ. You don't get any STRs but you find your final clade.

[Johnny ola]

Which test would you suggest ? He is waiting for a possible black friday deal from dantelabs for himself but for his maternal grandfather something cheaper should do, he isn't his line in the end of the day .

In any case unfortunately it'll not help much with the truth as his direct male descendants aren't available for testing/easy to get hold of.

Look for sales/offers.Ftdna IMO.Start with something cheap!!!

[dosas]

Which test would you suggest ? He is waiting for a possible black friday deal from dantelabs for himself but for his maternal grandfather something cheaper should do, he isn't his line in the end of the day .

In any case unfortunately it'll not help much with the truth as his direct male descendants aren't available for testing/easy to get hold of.

Don't buy Dante, lol, Facebook is full of people getting ripped off. Nebula or FTDNA.

[Greekscholar]

Does MyHeritage post the ethnicity results before the match list? I believe this is how it works if you download a raw file from another site, and could also happen if you order directly from them. I don't remember exactly when we tested my Yia Yia with MyHeritage.

Does the pattern of not matching expected relatives extend to GEDmatch too?

[lacreme]

Does MyHeritage post the ethnicity results before the match list? I believe this is how it works if you download a raw file from another site, and could also happen if you order directly from them. I don't remember exactly when we tested my Yia Yia with MyHeritage.

Does the pattern of not matching expected relatives extend to GEDmatch too?

if I remember correctly you can see separately the ethnicity results and the matches, whatever you like first . With a quick look, my friend's list doesn't share anyone with his maternal granfather's list. As for the Gedmatch matches, his (grandfather) kit is not ready yet for one to many comparisons but on one to one test with my friend he doesn't have any shared SNPs ...

[Sorcelow]

His results make sense for his ancestry. I ran his Dodecad K12b scores through the updated spreadsheet:

[1,] "Albanian_Laberia (N=2)" "2.0425"
[2,] "Greek_Thrace" "4.1715"
[3,] "Greek_Thessaly" "4.2741"
[4,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "4.8262"
[5,] "Greek_Northwest_Lakonia (N=9)" "5.3982"
[6,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "5.6331"
[7,] "Albanian_North" "6.3346"
[8,] "Italy_Lazio" "6.844"
[9,] "Turk_Macedonia" "7.0357"
[10,] "Italy_Marche" "7.7054"

In general, I've found that western Peloponnesians and Epirots score very similar in that they shift towards Albania because of their higher BarcinN scores. I dont think this necessarily means that they have significant Albanian ancestry, but rather I suspect a similar cline ran down the Pindus into the western Peloponnese in antiquity. Notice how distant he is from the Laconian average that I compiled. This is because Laconians have more Anatolian_BA admixture.

[dosas]

What's your grandpa's last name. PM me and I will be able to provide more info.

[lacreme]

Just read some reviews on dante labs...yikes ! Indeed a scam.

His results make sense for his ancestry. I ran his Dodecad K12b scores through the updated spreadsheet:

[1,] "Albanian_Laberia (N=2)" "2.0425"
[2,] "Greek_Thrace" "4.1715"
[3,] "Greek_Thessaly" "4.2741"
[4,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "4.8262"
[5,] "Greek_Northwest_Lakonia (N=9)" "5.3982"
[6,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "5.6331"
[7,] "Albanian_North" "6.3346"
[8,] "Italy_Lazio" "6.844"
[9,] "Turk_Macedonia" "7.0357"
[10,] "Italy_Marche" "7.7054"

In general, I've found that western Peloponnesians and Epirots score very similar in that they shift towards Albania because of their higher BarcinN scores. I dont think this necessarily means that they have significant Albanian ancestry, but rather I suspect a similar cline ran down the Pindus into the western Peloponnese in antiquity. Notice how distant he is from the Laconian average that I compiled. This is because Laconians have more Anatolian_BA admixture.

You may be right but in his case it may be more of the former, his Peloponnesian ancestors were all from/or close to the arvanite areas of Achaia after all

[lacreme]

What's your grandpa's last name. PM me and I will be able to provide more info.

Pm will be sent asap
Thanks

[Johnny ola]

Just read some reviews on dante labs...yikes ! Indeed a scam.




You may be right but in his case it may be more of the former, his pelopponesian ancestors were all from/or close to the arvanite areas of Achaia after all

I am not sure if he has Arvanites ancestry(he prolly might have) but the toponyms of the area,after the research i have done are quite Slavic-Vlach and its obvious also from the name of the village that you linked me.I am not sure if such toponyms arrived with Arvanites.You can find it out with surname and yDNA IMO nothing else.