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    European:


    Scandinavian:
    74,5%

    Genetic group:
    Sweden (Västerbotten) and England

    East European:
    14,7%

    Genetic group:
    East and Central-Europe, Mostly Poland, Germany, Ukraine, Latvia, Belarus and Russia

    Iberian:
    4,7%

    Italian:
    4,0%

    Asian:

    Japanese and Korean:
    1,1%

    Inuit
    1,0%

    So according to Myheritage I am:
    75% Scandinavian.
    15% East European.
    9% South European
    and 2 % East Asian.

    I don't have any known East European ancestry at all.

    And my "east Asian" genes are Siberian/North Asian.

    My known ancestry is also 37.5 % North Italian. So i think 8,7% South Euro is very low.
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    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 2.3124% / 0.02312401 | R3P
    61.4 Swedish
    35.8 Spanish_Soria
    2.8 Nganassan

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    Quote Originally Posted by boilermeschew827 View Post
    I was impressed at first, but over time and with the added capability to filter your matches by grouping, I started seeing issues. Out of my groups assigned (three German groups, still not sure what the difference between Germany #2 and #4 is), this only includes about 300 out of my 3000 matches - depending on the kit.

    I do not share any groups with my maternal grandparents (generation 0 in terms of recent ancestry), also a little odd. The German groups assigned encompass about 25% of my expected regions - basically US Midwest German settlers.

    edit - I'd add the following thoughts: the ethnicity estimate for MH is the worst for me personally out of all the tests, not far behind FTDNA of LivingDNA for myself. The groupings leave much to be desired for my personal results, compared to 23andMe (even with RAL flaws) or AncestryDNA (still the best, though their database for Russia and France are lacking, but not much they can do about it). My maternal grandma receives very accurate groupings on MH which is better for her than 23andMe (she has no assigned locations there). Similarly, my maternal grandfather also has accurate groupings on MH compared to AncestryDNA.

    AncestryDNA has flaws with Eastern Europe, hopefully they work on this but I understand they can only be as accurate as their database. They currently stop at Czech, Poland, Lithuania and Slovakia, so I've noticed my EE matches all have this group - accurate or not. No Russian groups are offered. My grandfather gets Lithuania there, which is not correct.
    The main problem is really that they miss a lot of members of the groups. Its excusable to me, that they sometimes create superfluous groups, but those people which really belong to important groupings should be in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    European:


    Scandinavian:
    74,5%

    Genetic group:
    Sweden (Västerbotten) and England

    East European:
    14,7%

    Genetic group:
    East and Central-Europe, Mostly Poland, Germany, Ukraine, Latvia, Belarus and Russia

    Iberian:
    4,7%

    Italian:
    4,0%

    Asian:

    Japanese and Korean:
    1,1%

    Inuit
    1,0%

    So according to Myheritage I am:
    75% Scandinavian.
    15% East European.
    9% South European
    and 2 % East Asian.

    I don't have any known East European ancestry at all.

    And my "east Asian" genes are Siberian/North Asian.

    My known ancestry is also 37.5 % North Italian. So i think 8,7% South Euro is very low.
    Very strange. I swear you usually plot closer to Southern Europe than I do.

    I get either 8.3% or 11% Greek and South Italian depending on the kit. That’s surely unrealistically high, if it’s real at all. G25 has me plotting close to Norway!

    I think that if there’s any truth to the ‘Southern European’ I keep getting, it would be less than 5% of my ancestry. Gibraltar was 5 generations back and if there really was a Portuguese ancestor they must be at least 6 generations back.
    Last edited by lana6765; 06-23-2021 at 09:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    Very strange. I swear you usually plot closer to Southern Europe than I do.

    I get either 8.3% or 11% Greek and South Italian depending on the kit. That’s surely unrealistically high, if it’s real at all. G25 has me plotting close to Norway!

    I think that if there’s any truth to the ‘Southern European’ I keep getting, it would be less than 5% of my ancestry. Gibraltar was 5 generations back and if there really was a Portuguese ancestor they must be at least 5 generations back.
    Yes I most often cluster among Belgian/Dutch or northern most French.

    Even G25 full modern spreadsheet defect at least some South European:

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 2.1962% / 0.02196205 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    44.4 Norwegian
    24.4 Spanish_Soria
    12.0 Swiss_French

    11.6 Cossack_Kuban
    5.2 Slovakian
    1.4 Nganassan
    1.0 Itelmen
    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 2.3236% / 0.02323550 | R3P
    60.6 Swedish
    36.2 Spanish_Soria
    3.2 Itelmen
    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 2.3124% / 0.02312401 | R3P
    61.4 Swedish
    35.8 Spanish_Soria
    2.8 Nganassan

    Individual modern samples:

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 1.1044% / 0.01104367 | R3P
    50.8 Dutch
    37.2 Swiss_French
    12.0 Saami
    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 1.4361% / 0.01436093 | R2P
    96.4 German
    3.6 Nganasan

    Even old Gedmatch calculators give more accurate results,
    Eurogenes K13:

    # Population (source) Distance
     
    1 South_Dutch 3.56
    2 West_German 5.12
    3 Southeast_English 6.29
    4 Southwest_English 7.43
    5 Orcadian 7.61
    6 French 7.76
    7 North_German 8.51
    8 North_Dutch 8.72
    9 Danish 8.75
    10 Irish 9.06
    11 West_Scottish 9.21
    12 Norwegian 10.72
    13 Austrian 10.95
    14 Swedish 11.58
    15 East_German 11.87
    16 Spanish_Cataluna 14.74
    17 Hungarian 15.28
    18 North_Swedish 15.44
    19 Spanish_Galicia 15.71
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.78


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

     
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63.1% Swedish + 36.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.93
    2 97.9% South_Dutch + 2.1% Evens @ 2.93
    3 97.7% South_Dutch + 2.3% Dolgan @ 2.94
    4 97.9% South_Dutch + 2.1% Evenki @ 2.95
    5 60.4% Swedish + 39.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.99
    6 97.8% South_Dutch + 2.2% Yakut @ 2.99
    7 97.8% South_Dutch + 2.2% Koryak @ 3.02
    8 60.9% Swedish + 39.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.02
    9 54.9% North_Swedish + 45.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.03
    10 97.5% South_Dutch + 2.5% Selkup @ 3.04
    11 97.4% South_Dutch + 2.6% Ket @ 3.04
    12 97.8% South_Dutch + 2.2% Chukchi @ 3.07
    13 98% South_Dutch + 2% Oroqen @ 3.07
    14 97.8% South_Dutch + 2.2% Tuvinian @ 3.16
    15 98% South_Dutch + 2% Buryat @ 3.2
    16 58.1% Swedish + 41.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.21
    17 97.8% South_Dutch + 2.2% Altaian @ 3.25
    18 60.1% Norwegian + 39.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.25
    19 56.4% Swedish + 43.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.25
    20 97.6% South_Dutch + 2.4% Shors @ 3.26
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    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 2.3124% / 0.02312401 | R3P
    61.4 Swedish
    35.8 Spanish_Soria
    2.8 Nganassan

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    no change for me



    the more I go back the more I sit between Metz france and Saarbrucken germany

    but

    my BDM records from 1450/1500 state my paternal line between Bolzano Italy and Innsbruck Austria


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-CTS6397 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    Very strange. I swear you usually plot closer to Southern Europe than I do.

    I get either 8.3% or 11% Greek and South Italian depending on the kit. That’s surely unrealistically high, if it’s real at all. G25 has me plotting close to Norway!

    I think that if there’s any truth to the ‘Southern European’ I keep getting, it would be less than 5% of my ancestry. Gibraltar was 5 generations back and if there really was a Portuguese ancestor they must be at least 5 generations back.
    My best guess is that you have higher EEF than the average sample for NW Europeans.

    My mother also got a bit higher than the average Swede. So she score some 7% South European on FTDNA.
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    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 2.3124% / 0.02312401 | R3P
    61.4 Swedish
    35.8 Spanish_Soria
    2.8 Nganassan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    My best guess is that you have higher EEF than the average sample for NW Europeans.

    My mother also got a bit higher than the average Swede. So she score some 7% South European on FTDNA.
    It seems normal tbh.

    I don’t get it. 23andme gave me Spanish and Portuguese. FTDNA gave me 5% Greek and DNA.land gave me 2.5% North African. But I plot towards the North of the British Isles.

    Has something gone really funky with G25? Or are the other tests wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Yes I most often cluster among Belgian/Dutch or northern most French.

    Even G25 full modern spreadsheet defect at least some South European:
    That’s very strange. Perhaps somehow it got absorbed by another population. MyHeritage is a bit of a mystery!

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    My MyHeritage Ethnic Analysis is woefully inaccurate.




    Africa
    50.1%

    West Africa
    44.0%
    Nigerian
    27.9%
    West African
    12.1%
    Sierra Leonean
    4.0%

    East Africa
    5.2%
    Maasai
    5.2%

    North Africa
    0.9%
    North African
    0.9%


    Europe
    46.3%

    South Europe
    43.2%
    Italian
    26.9%
    Iberian
    16.3%

    North and West Europe
    3.1%
    Finnish
    3.1%


    America
    3.6%

    Central America
    3.6%
    Central American
    3.6%



    My Genealogical ancestry



    My Louisianan father's ancestry was mostly Sub-Saharan African.



    My Louisianan paternal grandfather was an African American. I was told that he had some roots in Jamaica.

    His mother was a Voodoo Spiritualist, and I suspect that she had some roots in Haiti.

    My Y DNA haplogroup is E-M85 (E2b1a), and so my patrilineal ancestry is Sub-Saharan African.



    My Louisianan paternal grandmother was an African American with some Acadian (17th Century French settlers in Eastern Canadian Maritime Provinces) and English Virginian Colonial ancestry (17th Century). My paternal grandmother's maternal grandfather's father was the son of an Anglo-American man and a Cajun woman who was mostly Acadian with some English.



    Two people in Denmark match me on my paternal Chromosome 1, and that shows that my father had Danish ancestors. On my Cajun paternal 4th Great Grandmother's side, I have a paternal 7th Great Grandmother named Anne Scalsen.

    I have some paternal Amerindian chromosome segments which shows that my father had Amerindian ancestors.



    My Californian mother's ancestry is mostly European.



    My mother's ancestry is very mixed and diverse, and so I have to break it down.



    My Californian maternal grandfather's paternal grandparents were immigrants from the Cape Verde Islands which belonged to Portugal until 1975. They were of mixed Portuguese and Sub-Saharan African ancestry. My maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's parents were immigrants from the Madeira Islands that belong to Portugal. My maternal grandfather's mitochondrial haplogroup was L0a0a2 which indicates a Sub-Saharan African matrilineal ancestry in the Madeiran ancestors. My maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's paternal grandfather was born in the Azores that belong to Portugal. My maternal grandfather's maternal grandfather was an immigrant from Puerto Rico. He was of mixed Spanish, Sub-Saharan African, and Taino ancestry. I suspect that there was Sephardic Jewish ancestry in all the relatives that I mentioned.



    My Californian maternal grandmother was a bit of a Euro-mix. My maternal grandmother's father was the descendant of American Colonial lines (family lines came to USA in the 17th Century and 18th Century) that are English, Scottish, Irish, German, Swiss, Welsh, Dutch, and Frisian.

    My maternal grandmother's mother was Ashkenazi Jewish. Her father and his parents immigrated from Romania which is located in Southeastern Europe. Her mother and her parents immigrated from Latvia which is one of the three Baltic countries located in Northeastern Europe.

    My mitochondrial DNA haplogroup is J1c14 which is found in Central and Eastern Europe, and my mitochondrial DNA matches are people with Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry.



    My mother has Danish DNA relative matches on Chromosome 4. She has Norwegian DNA relative matches on Chromosomes 1, 3, and 6. She has Swedish DNA relative matches on Chromosome 19. She has Italian DNA relative matches on Chromosomes 1 and 2.
    Last edited by Glaucus; 06-27-2021 at 06:54 PM.
    paternal ancestry is African American with English and Acadian
    maternal ancestry is Cape Verdean, Ashkenazi Jewish (from Romania and Latvia), Puerto Rican, Madeiran, Azorean, English, Scottish, German, Irish, Swiss, Welsh, Dutch, Frisian


    Eurogenes K13
    Sub_Saharan 47.34%
    North_Atlantic 18.75%
    West_Med 9.90%
    East_Med 6.70%
    Baltic 4.70%
    Northeast_African 3.60%
    West_Asian 2.73%
    Amerindian 2.38%
    Red_Sea 1.86%
    East_Asian 1.20%
    Siberian 0.64%
    Oceanian 0.11%
    South Asian 0.10%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glaucus View Post
    My MyHeritage Ethnic Analysis is woefully inaccurate.
    I agree that MH ancestry estimate is a complete joke. The genetic groups are the only useful or potentially useful part of it, as they a good amount of the time do make some sense. That and the many non-American users on there can make finding relatives interesting on there as well.

    Nice family background, by the way. A lot of cool history in you, friend.

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