I share a small triangulated segment on chr7 (9.3 cMs) with 6 matches listed as 100% Scandinavian
My highest single segment matches that aren't pileups.
Norway 22.3
Sweden 19.0
Norway 17.7
All 100% Scandinavian.
I share a small triangulated segment on chr7 (9.3 cMs) with 6 matches listed as 100% Scandinavian
My highest single segment matches that aren't pileups.
Norway 22.3
Sweden 19.0
Norway 17.7
All 100% Scandinavian.
Last edited by firemonkey; 12-31-2020 at 12:30 PM.
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jadegreg (12-31-2020)
It's probably been covered elsewhere, but is there any concrete method for establishing whether segment matches are due to pile-up?Originally Posted by firemonkey
msmarjoribanks (01-27-2021)
My closest non-British and Irish European matches the closest being obviously Dutch as I'm 1/16 Dutch, beyond that there are a bunch of German, French, Norwegians and Swedes.
Netherlands
3rd-5th Cousin
Europe - 100%
English - 6.1%
Scandinavian - 52.3%
North and West European - 39.3%
East European - 2.3%
3rd-Distant Cousin
Europe - 100%
Scandinavian - 4.2%
North and West European - 94.3%
Finnish - 1.5%
3rd-Distant Cousin
Europe - 100%
English - 39.9%
Scandinavian - 54.4%
East European - 5.7%
3rd-Distant Cousin
Europe - 100%
Scandinavian - 18.2%
North and West European - 76.7%
Finnish - 0.9%
East European - 4.2%
Germany
3rd-Distant Cousin
Europe - 100%
English - 3.2%
Scandinavian - 6.5%
North and West European - 66.1%
Balkan - 17.1%
Greek and South Italian - 3.8%
Ashkenazi Jewish - 3.3%
3rd-Distant Cousin
European - 92.4%
English - 5.6%
North and West European - 44.5%
Balkan - 17.4%
East European - 13.7%
Iberian - 11.2%
Central Asia - 5.1%
Middle Eastern - 2.5%
France
3rd-Distant Cousin
Europe - 100%
North and West European - 21.9%
Irish, Scottish and Welsh - 16.7%
Iberian - 48%
Italian - 13.4%
Sweden
3rd-Distant Cousin
European - 97.5%
Scandinavian - 84.5%
Finnish - 13%
South Asian - 2.5%
Norway
3rd-distant cousin
Europe - 100%
Scandinavian - 92.1%
North and West European - 7.9%
Ethnogene: 51.4% NW European, 21.6% W European, 10.1% Southeastern African, 9.5% Southeast Asian, 4.4% South Asian, 2% Scandinavian, 1% East African
Papertrail @ 2xggrandparents: 37.5% London, 25% Dorset, 25% Mauritius, 6.25% Netherlands, 6.25% Hampshire
No known continental European ancestry that I'm aware of - all England, Scotland and Ireland so far. Potentially one 6th great grandfather from Guernsey. Top three that are continental Europe in my DNA matches:
Person 1 - France
Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin
DNA match quality: 0.5% (37.2cM) shared DNA, 5 shared segments, largest segment 11.7cM
No ethnicity estimate displayed - perhaps hidden by kit owner. Tree managed by another and is private.
Person 2 - France
Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin
DNA match quality: 0.5% (36.5cM) shared DNA, 3 shared segments, largest segment 23.3cM
Ethnicity estimate: 68.1% North and West Europe (54.3% North and West European, 13.8% Irish, Scottish and Welsh), 31.9% South Europe (25.7% Italian, 6.2% Iberian).
Surnames: 2 listed both French (tree of seven people).
Person 3 - Germany
Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin
DNA match quality: 0.5% (34.8cM) shared DNA, 2 shared segments, largest segment 28.8cM
Ethnicity estimate: 60.8% North and West Europe (22.3% English, 5.3% North and West European, 33.2% Irish, Scandinavian), 21.3% East Europe (21.3% Baltic), 17.9% South Europe (16.9% Italian, 2.0% Iberian).
Surnames: 12 listed, all look German (tree of 113 people).
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lana6765 (01-04-2021)
Me
1. Driessen
From: Netherlands
Estimated relationships
3rd - 5th cousin?
DNA Match quality?
0.6% (40.1 cM)
Shared DNA
3
Shared segments
26.1 cM
2. Vik
From: Norway
Estimated relationships
3rd - 5th cousin?
DNA Match quality?
0.5% (34.9 cM)
Shared DNA
3
Shared segments
21.2 cM
3. Lövstrand
From: Sweden
Estimated relationships
3rd - 5th cousin?
DNA Match quality?
0.4% (30.1 cM)
Shared DNA
3
Shared segments
16.2 cM
Mother
1. Halvorsen
From: Norway
Estimated relationships
3rd - 5th cousin?
DNA Match quality?
0.7% (47.1 cM)
Shared DNA
4
Shared segments
23.7 cM
2. Sundin
From: Sweden
Estimated relationships
3rd - 5th cousin?
DNA Match quality?
0.5% (36.0 cM)
Shared DNA
1
Shared segments
36 cM
3. Bos
From: Netherlands
Estimated relationships
3rd cousin - distant cousin?
Medium confidence
DNA Match quality?
0.5% (34.0 cM)
Shared DNA
4
Shared segments
10.2 cM
Largest segment
Father
1. doussoux
From: France
Estimated relationships
3rd - 5th cousin?
DNA Match quality?
0.8% (53.0 cM)
Shared DNA
3
Shared segments
36.3 cM
2. morat
From: France
Estimated relationships
3rd - 5th cousin?
DNA Match quality?
0.7% (46.0 cM)
Shared DNA
3
Shared segments
31.4 cM
3. Burmester
From: Germany
Estimated relationships
3rd - 5th cousin?
DNA Match quality?
0.6% (44.0 cM)
Shared DNA
2
Shared segments
37.6 cM
All born in Norway. They have family trees connected and the top two have Scottish surnames in them that I also have(Fraser & Slater). So most likely Norway has been getting a few Scots immigrants rather than Norwegians moving West.
In myheritage I have more Norwegian than Irish matches.
Person 1 -- Norwegian
3rd - 5th cousin?
1.0% (71.8 cM)Person 2 -- Norwegian
3rd - 5th cousin?
0.5% (34.5 cM)Person 3 -- Norwegian
3rd cousin - distant cousin?
0.5% (33.8 cM)
Last edited by Graham; 01-27-2021 at 04:33 PM.
lana6765 (02-19-2021)
I think some of the less close Scandinavian and Finnish matches could be real as they pop up with both kits. I had 2 Finnish matches on the 23andme site also.
But I think some of the matches could have been somehow elevated or bumped up by imputation maybe?? IDK
Also some of the closest ones match on Chromosome 15. The segments are longer than the pile up zones. But the pile up zones are included in the segment lengths... if that makes sense.
Last edited by lana6765; 02-05-2021 at 07:10 PM.
23andme V5.9: 97.3% British and Irish, 2.3% Spanish and Portuguese, 0.2% Broadly Southern European, 0.2% Unassigned
AncestryDNA 2020: 50% England & Northwestern Europe, 35% Ireland, 15% Scotland
Paper trail to 1850s: County Mayo 25%, Essex 25%, London 15.625%, Hampshire/Southampton 12.5%, Lancashire/Liverpool 9.375%, Devon 6.25%, Suffolk 3.125%, County Cavan 3.125%, Gibraltar (military service)
Here are some matches that match both kits, with segments over 10 cM:
From: Poland
Largest segment: 11.1 cM
Total: 30.3 cM
Ethnicity: 100% Eastern European
Ancestral Surnames: All Polish
From: Norway
Largest Segment: 16 cM
Total: 16 cM
Ethnicity: 100% Scandinavian
Ancestry surnames: All Norwegian
These aren’t on chromosome 15.
23andme V5.9: 97.3% British and Irish, 2.3% Spanish and Portuguese, 0.2% Broadly Southern European, 0.2% Unassigned
AncestryDNA 2020: 50% England & Northwestern Europe, 35% Ireland, 15% Scotland
Paper trail to 1850s: County Mayo 25%, Essex 25%, London 15.625%, Hampshire/Southampton 12.5%, Lancashire/Liverpool 9.375%, Devon 6.25%, Suffolk 3.125%, County Cavan 3.125%, Gibraltar (military service)
My dad is primarily British with 1/8 Dutch ancestry and some distant Irish and possible French Huguenot. His closest non-British with over 10 matches are Dutch, German, French, Danish, Swedish, Norwegians, Finns, Swiss and Austrian.
Ethnogene: 51.4% NW European, 21.6% W European, 10.1% Southeastern African, 9.5% Southeast Asian, 4.4% South Asian, 2% Scandinavian, 1% East African
Papertrail @ 2xggrandparents: 37.5% London, 25% Dorset, 25% Mauritius, 6.25% Netherlands, 6.25% Hampshire
My ethnicity in myheritage shows high Scandinavian (30%) mostly Sweden and Finland but I put my 20 closest matches (none below 20cM) presently living there (no mixed heritage from USA allowed) into DNApainter and it showed the common DNA match was in a uncertain zone. MyHeritage called the matches low confidence and that stacked up too.
Cheshire has a documented Viking settlement in the early Middle Ages
Last edited by Judith; 02-20-2021 at 11:06 AM. Reason: Missed off figures
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Out of 64 pre 1800 births 45% Cheshire, 1% Irish (or Scottish), 25% south Derbyshire, 13% Burton on Trent area (where 4 counties within 10 miles), 7% Shropshire, 1% Staffs, 8% Lancs. So far all British Isles despite what some testing companies say.
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