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    I share a small triangulated segment on chr7 (9.3 cMs) with 6 matches listed as 100% Scandinavian


    My highest single segment matches that aren't pileups.

    Norway 22.3
    Sweden 19.0
    Norway 17.7

    All 100% Scandinavian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    I share a small triangulated segment on chr7 (9.3 cMs) with 6 matches listed as 100% Scandinavian


    My highest single segment matches that aren't pileups.

    Norway 22.3
    Sweden 19.0
    Norway 17.7

    All 100% Scandinavian.
    It's probably been covered elsewhere, but is there any concrete method for establishing whether segment matches are due to pile-up?

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    My closest non-British and Irish European matches the closest being obviously Dutch as I'm 1/16 Dutch, beyond that there are a bunch of German, French, Norwegians and Swedes.

    Netherlands

    3rd-5th Cousin
    Europe - 100%
    English - 6.1%
    Scandinavian - 52.3%
    North and West European - 39.3%
    East European - 2.3%

    3rd-Distant Cousin
    Europe - 100%
    Scandinavian - 4.2%
    North and West European - 94.3%
    Finnish - 1.5%

    3rd-Distant Cousin
    Europe - 100%
    English - 39.9%
    Scandinavian - 54.4%
    East European - 5.7%

    3rd-Distant Cousin
    Europe - 100%
    Scandinavian - 18.2%
    North and West European - 76.7%
    Finnish - 0.9%
    East European - 4.2%

    Germany

    3rd-Distant Cousin
    Europe - 100%
    English - 3.2%
    Scandinavian - 6.5%
    North and West European - 66.1%
    Balkan - 17.1%
    Greek and South Italian - 3.8%
    Ashkenazi Jewish - 3.3%

    3rd-Distant Cousin
    European - 92.4%
    English - 5.6%
    North and West European - 44.5%
    Balkan - 17.4%
    East European - 13.7%
    Iberian - 11.2%
    Central Asia - 5.1%
    Middle Eastern - 2.5%

    France

    3rd-Distant Cousin
    Europe - 100%
    North and West European - 21.9%
    Irish, Scottish and Welsh - 16.7%
    Iberian - 48%
    Italian - 13.4%

    Sweden

    3rd-Distant Cousin
    European - 97.5%
    Scandinavian - 84.5%
    Finnish - 13%
    South Asian - 2.5%

    Norway

    3rd-distant cousin
    Europe - 100%
    Scandinavian - 92.1%
    North and West European - 7.9%
    Ethnogene: 51.4% NW European, 21.6% W European, 10.1% Southeastern African, 9.5% Southeast Asian, 4.4% South Asian, 2% Scandinavian, 1% East African
    Papertrail @ 2xggrandparents: 37.5% London, 25% Dorset, 25% Mauritius, 6.25% Netherlands, 6.25% Hampshire

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    No known continental European ancestry that I'm aware of - all England, Scotland and Ireland so far. Potentially one 6th great grandfather from Guernsey. Top three that are continental Europe in my DNA matches:

    Person 1 - France
    Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin
    DNA match quality: 0.5% (37.2cM) shared DNA, 5 shared segments, largest segment 11.7cM
    No ethnicity estimate displayed - perhaps hidden by kit owner. Tree managed by another and is private.

    Person 2 - France
    Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin
    DNA match quality: 0.5% (36.5cM) shared DNA, 3 shared segments, largest segment 23.3cM
    Ethnicity estimate: 68.1% North and West Europe (54.3% North and West European, 13.8% Irish, Scottish and Welsh), 31.9% South Europe (25.7% Italian, 6.2% Iberian).
    Surnames: 2 listed both French (tree of seven people).

    Person 3 - Germany
    Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin
    DNA match quality: 0.5% (34.8cM) shared DNA, 2 shared segments, largest segment 28.8cM
    Ethnicity estimate: 60.8% North and West Europe (22.3% English, 5.3% North and West European, 33.2% Irish, Scandinavian), 21.3% East Europe (21.3% Baltic), 17.9% South Europe (16.9% Italian, 2.0% Iberian).
    Surnames: 12 listed, all look German (tree of 113 people).
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    1. Driessen
    From: Netherlands
    Estimated relationships
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    DNA Match quality?
    0.6% (40.1‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    3
    Shared segments
    26.1‎ cM

    2. Vik
    From: Norway
    Estimated relationships
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    DNA Match quality?
    0.5% (34.9‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    3
    Shared segments
    21.2‎ cM

    3. Lövstrand
    From: Sweden
    Estimated relationships
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    DNA Match quality?
    0.4% (30.1‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    3
    Shared segments
    16.2‎ cM

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    1. Halvorsen
    From: Norway
    Estimated relationships
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    DNA Match quality?
    0.7% (47.1‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    4
    Shared segments
    23.7‎ cM

    2. Sundin
    From: Sweden
    Estimated relationships
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    DNA Match quality?
    0.5% (36.0‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    1
    Shared segments
    36‎ cM

    3. Bos
    From: Netherlands
    Estimated relationships
    3rd cousin - distant cousin?
    Medium confidence
    DNA Match quality?
    0.5% (34.0‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    4
    Shared segments
    10.2‎ cM
    Largest segment

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    1. doussoux
    From: France
    Estimated relationships
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    DNA Match quality?
    0.8% (53.0‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    3
    Shared segments
    36.3‎ cM

    2. morat
    From: France
    Estimated relationships
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    DNA Match quality?
    0.7% (46.0‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    3
    Shared segments
    31.4‎ cM

    3. Burmester
    From: Germany
    Estimated relationships
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    DNA Match quality?
    0.6% (44.0‎ cM)
    Shared DNA
    2
    Shared segments
    37.6‎ cM

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    All born in Norway. They have family trees connected and the top two have Scottish surnames in them that I also have(Fraser & Slater). So most likely Norway has been getting a few Scots immigrants rather than Norwegians moving West.

    In myheritage I have more Norwegian than Irish matches.


    Person 1 -- Norwegian
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    1.0% (71.8‎ cM)
    Person 2 -- Norwegian
    3rd - 5th cousin?
    0.5% (34.5‎ cM)
    Person 3 -- Norwegian
    3rd cousin - distant cousin?
    0.5% (33.8‎ cM)
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    I think some of the less close Scandinavian and Finnish matches could be real as they pop up with both kits. I had 2 Finnish matches on the 23andme site also.

    But I think some of the matches could have been somehow elevated or bumped up by imputation maybe?? IDK

    Also some of the closest ones match on Chromosome 15. The segments are longer than the pile up zones. But the pile up zones are included in the segment lengths... if that makes sense.
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    Here are some matches that match both kits, with segments over 10 cM:

    From: Poland
    Largest segment: 11.1 cM
    Total: 30.3 cM
    Ethnicity: 100% Eastern European
    Ancestral Surnames: All Polish

    From: Norway
    Largest Segment: 16 cM
    Total: 16 cM
    Ethnicity: 100% Scandinavian
    Ancestry surnames: All Norwegian

    These aren’t on chromosome 15.

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    My dad is primarily British with 1/8 Dutch ancestry and some distant Irish and possible French Huguenot. His closest non-British with over 10 matches are Dutch, German, French, Danish, Swedish, Norwegians, Finns, Swiss and Austrian.
    Ethnogene: 51.4% NW European, 21.6% W European, 10.1% Southeastern African, 9.5% Southeast Asian, 4.4% South Asian, 2% Scandinavian, 1% East African
    Papertrail @ 2xggrandparents: 37.5% London, 25% Dorset, 25% Mauritius, 6.25% Netherlands, 6.25% Hampshire

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    My ethnicity in myheritage shows high Scandinavian (30%) mostly Sweden and Finland but I put my 20 closest matches (none below 20cM) presently living there (no mixed heritage from USA allowed) into DNApainter and it showed the common DNA match was in a uncertain zone. MyHeritage called the matches low confidence and that stacked up too.

    Cheshire has a documented Viking settlement in the early Middle Ages
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    Out of 64 pre 1800 births 45% Cheshire, 1% Irish (or Scottish), 25% south Derbyshire, 13% Burton on Trent area (where 4 counties within 10 miles), 7% Shropshire, 1% Staffs, 8% Lancs. So far all British Isles despite what some testing companies say.

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