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    Where does R-Z225 Originate? Where is the highest frequency?

    Hi, my clade is R-Z225 and I've been wondering where exactly is this clade mostly seen?

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    Ancient samples positive for R-Z225:

    I3320
    Els Estrets de la Rata, Vilafamés, Castelló/Castellón, Valencian Community
    Iberian Iron Age
    300–100 BCE
    R-Z225

    VAD001
    Valdescusa, Hervías, La Rioja
    Iberian Bronze Age
    1867–1616 cal BCE
    R-Z225

    Oldest would be the one found in La Rioja, North Castille.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alejandromb92 View Post
    Ancient samples positive for R-Z225:

    I3320
    Els Estrets de la Rata, Vilafamés, Castelló/Castellón, Valencian Community
    Iberian Iron Age
    300–100 BCE
    R-Z225

    VAD001
    Valdescusa, Hervías, La Rioja
    Iberian Bronze Age
    1867–1616 cal BCE
    R-Z225

    Oldest would be the one found in La Rioja, North Castille.
    Actually, this sample is slightly older: OBE3626-1, Eastern France (Bas-Rhin, Alsace): 3505 +/- 35BP, 1926-1701 BC (c. 1813 BC), ZZ12 >Z229

    This sample was reported in the French Paper spanning Neolithic to Iron Age. Z229 was the call but Z229 and Z225 are currently equivalent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webb View Post
    Actually, this sample is slightly older: OBE3626-1, Eastern France (Bas-Rhin, Alsace): 3505 +/- 35BP, 1926-1701 BC (c. 1813 BC), ZZ12 >Z229

    This sample was reported in the French Paper spanning Neolithic to Iron Age. Z229 was the call but Z229 and Z225 are currently equivalent.
    Seems to be seen mostly from France into Iberia. The path seems to have entered into North Eastern Spain, Basque region from the Pyrenees and moved north west ward through the peninsula. Would that be a good take?

    All I could find is that it’s consistent with iberian colonization, so strong iberian tie: “ The concentration of Latin American/Iberian samples derived at DF27 shows the geographical importance of this marker in Iberia. That only Latin American samples were members of the DF27 subclade defined by the mutations Z225 and Z229 further illustrates strong Iberian ties and is consistent with the possibility of colonial era founders in the Americas [19].”

    - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404022/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webb View Post
    Actually, this sample is slightly older: OBE3626-1, Eastern France (Bas-Rhin, Alsace): 3505 +/- 35BP, 1926-1701 BC (c. 1813 BC), ZZ12 >Z229

    This sample was reported in the French Paper spanning Neolithic to Iron Age. Z229 was the call but Z229 and Z225 are currently equivalent.
    Distance to: FRA_BA:OBE3626-1
    0.02750371 Norwegian:NOR106
    0.03067496 Danish:480
    0.03138387 Orcadian:HGDP00802
    0.03195198 Welsh:WAL004
    0.03309062 Dutch:Netherlands21
    0.03371627 English:England10
    0.03405423 Swedish:Sweden12
    0.03437732 Scottish:Scottish3
    0.03447707 Danishenmark3
    0.03506623 Irish:513
    0.03538784 Danish:436
    0.03584609 Swedish:Sweden11
    0.03591955 Irish:Irish54
    0.03660797 Irish:512
    0.03673144 Norwegian:NOR152
    0.03685892 Swedish:Sweden16
    0.03689955 French_Brittany:French23989
    0.03758960 Icelandic:NA15766
    0.03785994 Swedish:Sweden10
    0.03788983 Irish:Irish26
    0.03799604 Irish:532
    0.03803882 Orcadian:HGDP00804
    0.03809165 Irish:Irish40
    0.03814503 Scottish:Scottish13
    0.03821436 Norwegian:NOR109

    Target: FRA_BA:OBE3626-1
    Distance: 3.4480% / 0.03447991
    47.0 Western_Steppe_Herder
    33.2 Early_Anatolian_Farmer
    11.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    4.2 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
    3.8 Scandinavian_Hunter-Gatherer

    That sample is very northern shifted, very interesting.

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