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Thread: New, Roman Earth towards Medieval calculator(G25-Scaled)

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    New, Roman Earth towards Medieval calculator(G25-Scaled)

    This calculator focused on understanding of genetic alteration of Roman earth. But of course depends on North-Mediterranean centric.
    Enjoy it and post it.
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    mix: 51.4% Greek Crete + 48.6% Turkish Central
    distance: 1.7523

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    I took the initiative to link the list here as well, if you don't mind:

    Code:
    Hellenic_Roman:RMPR40,0.105855,0.151314,-0.023004,-0.060078,0.001539,-0.013666,-0.00141,-0.004846,-0.012067,0.027882,0.007307,0.003447,-0.010555,0.000275,-0.017236,-0.000796,0.000261,-0.00076,-0.002388,-0.01113,-0.004742,0.000371,-0.013188,0.004338,-0.000359
    Hellenic_Roman:RMPR43,0.111547,0.153345,-0.032809,-0.067184,0.003693,-0.025379,0.00423,-0.006,-0.007976,0.029704,0.003248,0.011839,-0.014717,0.006881,-0.017101,-0.000663,0.017341,0.003167,0.005028,-0.000625,-0.010981,0.010881,-0.003204,0.010001,-0.00012
    Hellenic_Roman:RMPR44,0.117238,0.167562,-0.028284,-0.070737,0.004616,-0.019522,0.001175,-0.006692,-0.003886,0.034807,0.006333,0.008243,-0.013379,0.001651,-0.009229,-0.004508,0.017211,-0.00038,-0.003268,-0.007003,-0.000873,0.000618,0.001479,0.008314,0.001437
    Hellenic_Roman:RMPR66,0.111547,0.158423,-0.033187,-0.06783,0.002154,-0.026216,0.00094,-0.002538,-0.013703,0.025331,0.012991,-0.004196,-0.001041,0.00523,-0.022937,-0.014983,-0.005867,0.000507,0.004902,-0.015257,-0.005241,0.00272,-0.003451,0.00253,0.000958
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    Hellenic_Roman:RMPR128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
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    Graecorum:661,0.110408,0.14319,-0.038089,-0.062016,-0.011387,-0.013387,0.004465,-0.005769,-0.016157,0.01057,-0.003573,-3e-04,-0.00892,-0.000963,-0.00665,-0.00411,0.002868,0.002027,0.012947,-0.002876,-0.000998,0.008037,-0.003451,0.005181,-0.000599
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    Graecorum:663,0.108132,0.150298,-0.041106,-0.05491,-0.016618,-0.017291,0.000235,-0.003692,-0.02577,0.006014,0.004547,0.006145,-0.002081,0.000275,-0.009772,0.00053,0.00678,0.007095,0.007919,-0.011631,-0.000749,0.005935,-0.005669,0.003374,-0.00467
    Graecorum:664,0.111547,0.149283,-0.038466,-0.068153,-0.01908,-0.018686,0.00987,-0.003692,-0.024134,0.010023,0.008444,0.007044,-0.008622,0.003441,-0.006243,-0.000265,0.001043,0.00228,0.006788,-0.004377,0.000624,0.007543,-0.001356,-0.00482,-0.002395
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    Proto_Slavic:2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
    Proto_Slavic:3,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
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    Celtic_Britannia:6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.047804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923,-0.00225,-0.000911,-0.019487,0.012589,-0.011447,-0.007707,0.019951,0.006099,-0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003697,0.002289,-0.001317
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    Celtic_Britannia:6DT23,0.126344,0.141159,0.060339,0.046512,0.036622,0.009482,0.005405,0.008077,0.00225,0.001458,-0.008607,0.006744,-0.016055,-0.007019,0.030944,-0.003845,-0.018906,0.004181,-0.003268,0.012506,0.004492,-0.004081,-0.010476,0.008917,-0.001916
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    Celtic_Britannia:S14491,0.130897,0.132019,0.052043,0.047804,0.039084,0.010319,-0.004465,0.002769,0.009408,0.01057,-0.00341,0.008243,-0.013528,-0.02202,0.019951,0.012861,0.004694,0.0019,0.004399,0.009755,0.001497,0.002102,0.001972,0.006386,0.002874
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    Medieval_Germanic:STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.064488,0.054264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077,0.002659,0.008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0.004191
    Thracian:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
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    Proto_Roman:2,0.133173,0.156392,0.0445,-0.00969,0.044008,-0.004462,0.00846,0.003,0.024543,0.044101,-0.002598,0.012289,-0.022448,-0.009634,-0.005429,-0.005834,0.00352,0.003167,0.006034,-0.007379,-0.008859,0.005317,-0.000863,-0.006989,-0.001796
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    Medieval_Turkic:4,0.067611,-0.1968096,0.050383,0.0102714,-0.0504708,-0.0099284,0.0125966,0.0103842,-0.0088764,-0.0076176,-0.0159142,-0.0009892,-0.0021408,-0.0150008,0.0062974,0.0043224,-0.0024772,-0.0016976,0.0037458,0.0035266,-0.0179434,0.0006182,-0.0091204,0.0037594,-0.0054126

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    My results:

    Code:
    Distance: 1.61630
    
    56.00% Graecorum
    20.40% Hellenic_Roman
    16.40% Proto_Slavic
    05.00% Medieval_Germanic
    02.20% Medieval_Turkic

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    Cretan Muslim+Turkish
    Nationality
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    Y-DNA (P)
    E-V12 (CTS693)

    Egypt Cappadocian Kingdom Byzantine Empire Ottoman Empire 2
    Thanks for extraction
    mix: 51.4% Greek Crete + 48.6% Turkish Central
    distance: 1.7523

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    My Greek friend's results, and his mother.
    What are the Graecorum samples ? They are distant to very distant from them,depending on the sample.

    Target: lacremefriend_scaled
    Distance: 1.3721% / 0.01372074
    62.8 Hellenic_Roman
    15.6 Proto_Slavic
    10.0 Graecorum
    8.6 Celtic_Britannia
    2.6 Proto_Roman
    0.4 Thracian


    Target: lacremefriendMom_scaled
    Distance: 1.7212% / 0.01721225
    42.8 Hellenic_Roman
    35.0 Graecorum
    10.6 Celtic_Britannia
    7.8 Proto_Slavic
    2.2 Proto_Roman
    0.8 Medieval_Germanic
    0.8 Medieval_Turkic
    Last edited by BalkanKiwi; 01-10-2021 at 10:36 AM. Reason: Friend's name removed from coordinates to maintain privacy

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    Egypt Cappadocian Kingdom Byzantine Empire Ottoman Empire 2
    Looks like quite close.

    To create an example:

    Mom:
    Distance: 1,53616

    82,20% Graecorum
    17,80% Medieval_Turkic

    Grandma:

    Distance: 1,91851

    41,60% Graecorum
    34,40% Hellenic_Roman
    18,40% Proto_Slavic
    02,40% Medieval_Turkic
    02,20% Medieval_Germanic
    01,00% Proto_Roman

    Aunt:

    Distance: 1,89549

    43,00% Graecorum
    41,80% Hellenic_Roman
    11,60% Proto_Slavic
    03,60% Medieval_Germanic
    mix: 51.4% Greek Crete + 48.6% Turkish Central
    distance: 1.7523

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    16.6 Hellenic_Roman
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    Quote Originally Posted by therugged View Post
    Looks like quite close.

    To create an example:

    Mom:
    Distance: 1,53616

    82,20% Graecorum
    17,80% Medieval_Turkic

    Grandma:

    Distance: 1,91851

    41,60% Graecorum
    34,40% Hellenic_Roman
    18,40% Proto_Slavic
    02,40% Medieval_Turkic
    02,20% Medieval_Germanic
    01,00% Proto_Roman

    Aunt:

    Distance: 1,89549

    43,00% Graecorum
    41,80% Hellenic_Roman
    11,60% Proto_Slavic
    03,60% Medieval_Germanic
    So are the Graecorum named samples Anatolian/West Asian (or shifted to them) samples ?

    My friend's mother who has a bigger West Asian shift than him is closer to them compared to my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    So are the Graecorum named samples Anatolian/West Asian (or shifted to them) samples ?

    My friend's mother who has a bigger West Asian shift than him is closer to them compared to my friend.
    Graecorum samples point out Anatolian Greeks to remind Medieval Roman Empire (Basileia ton Rhomanion)
    mix: 51.4% Greek Crete + 48.6% Turkish Central
    distance: 1.7523

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    26.4 Medieval_Germanic

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