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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Around 20% Slavic.

    Are you and your family from North Greece?
    Thats right. But my father is 1/2 Western Anatolian. Rest is Epirus and Western Macedonia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian View Post
    V3

    Target: Caledonian_scaled
    Distance: 1.3650% / 0.01364964
    50.6 Celtic_Britain
    20.2 Medieval_Germanic
    18.4 Viking_Age_Dane
    7.8 Viking_Age_Norse
    3.0 Proto_Roman

    0.02368805 Celtic_Britain:6DT3
    0.02391645 Medieval_Germanic
    0.02485784 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.02485784 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.02662174 Celtic_Britain:6DT23
    0.02703306 Celtic_Britain
    0.03136762 Viking_Age_Dane
    0.03170535 Viking_Age_Dane:VK372
    0.03220624 Viking_Age_Norse:vik_stg021
    0.03283063 Celtic_Britain:6DT18
    0.03311737 Celtic_Britain:3DT16
    0.03363707 Viking_Age_Dane:VK279
    0.03406435 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03406435 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03407678 Medieval_Germanic:ALH_10
    0.03465392 Viking_Age_Dane:VK141
    0.03479822 Viking_Age_Norse
    0.03522900 Medieval_Germanic:STR_316
    0.03677609 Celtic_Britain:6DT21
    0.03711015 Medieval_Germanic:NW_255
    0.03791011 Viking_Age_Dane:VK316
    0.03803857 Viking_Age_Dane:VK373
    0.03893425 Viking_Age_Dane:VK301
    0.04004688 Viking_Age_Dane:VK134
    0.04052645 Medieval_Germanic:ALH_1

    Have the Viking age Celts from Orkney been added? I may be wrong but I suspect the result of the Scots and Irish will be considerably less Germanic looking if those samples were added, at least that is what I have seen with my results in other tests.
    Adding the Orkney Celtic samples seems to have changed my results quite a bit, just as I suspected the Medieval German has reduced quite significantly, It's interesting how my Viking_age_Norse has risen so highly at the expense of Viking_age_Dane, again I would say that Norse is probably more accurate than Danish, considering my ethnicity and the history of Norwegian Viking settlement in Scotland and Ireland.

    Target: Caledonian_scaled
    Distance: 1.1681% / 0.01168135
    39.6 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
    27.4 Celtic_Britain
    23.0 Viking_Age_Norse
    6.2 Medieval_Germanic
    3.8 Viking_Age_Dane

    0.02368805 Celtic_Britain:6DT3
    0.02388696 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK207
    0.02391645 Medieval_Germanic
    0.02455845 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK201
    0.02485784 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.02485784 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.02510009 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK203
    0.02662174 Celtic_Britain:6DT23
    0.02703306 Celtic_Britain
    0.03136762 Viking_Age_Dane
    0.03170535 Viking_Age_Dane:VK372
    0.03220624 Viking_Age_Norse:vik_stg021
    0.03283063 Celtic_Britain:6DT18
    0.03311737 Celtic_Britain:3DT16
    0.03363707 Viking_Age_Dane:VK279
    0.03406435 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03406435 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03407678 Medieval_Germanic:ALH_10
    0.03465392 Viking_Age_Dane:VK141
    0.03479822 Viking_Age_Norse
    0.03522900 Medieval_Germanic:STR_316
    0.03677609 Celtic_Britain:6DT21
    0.03711015 Medieval_Germanic:NW_255
    0.03785892 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK202
    0.03791011 Viking_Age_Dane:VK316

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellebel View Post
    I think the southwestern European members aswell as those with Jewish ancestry could benefit from Guanches being added.
    Yes, it looks like it improves fits significantly for Western Jews and makes the results a bit more realistic IMO.

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    Distance: 2.0331% / 0.02033120
    Target: OwenDad_scaled
    45.6 Celtic_Britain
    28.0 Viking_Age_Dane
    19.9 Viking_Age_Norse
    2.7 Levantine
    2.0 Iberia_Iron_Age
    1.8 Hellenic_Roman

    Distance to: OwenDad_scaled
    0.03006265 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03006265 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03234177 Celtic_Britain:I0789
    0.03234177 Celtic_Britain:I0789
    0.03272412 Celtic_Britain:S14491
    0.03393096 Medieval_Germanic:STR_355
    0.03418712 Viking_Age_Dane:VK446
    0.03500282 Viking_Age_Dane:VK370
    0.03641403 Viking_Age_Dane:VK300
    0.03646034 Celtic_Britain:M1489
    0.03646034 Celtic_Britain:M1489
    0.03885379 Viking_Age_Dane:VK134
    0.03904047 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK202
    0.03933773 Viking_Age_Dane:VK312
    0.03962881 Viking_Age_Dane:VK373
    0.03998231 Celtic_Britain:6DT18
    0.04000839 Viking_Age_Norse:vik_urm161
    0.04144588 Viking_Age_Dane:VK301
    0.04208455 Viking_Age_Norse:vik_84001
    0.04348996 Viking_Age_Dane:VK279
    0.04389421 Viking_Age_Dane:VK316
    0.04467821 Celtic_Britain:6DT21
    0.04683034 Medieval_Germanic:ALH_1
    0.04695309 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.04695309 Celtic_Britain:I0160




    Distance: 1.3667% / 0.01366678
    Target: OwenMom_scaled
    36.4 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
    28.8 Celtic_Britain
    17.8 Medieval_Germanic
    8.9 Viking_Age_Norse
    5.8 Viking_Age_Dane
    2.3 Iberia_Iron_Age

    Distance to: OwenMom_scaled
    0.02541820 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK203
    0.02674185 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.02674185 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.02810722 Celtic_Britain:6DT18
    0.02848936 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.02848936 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.02934729 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK207
    0.03041848 Celtic_Britain:3DT16
    0.03108153 Celtic_Britain:6DT23
    0.03113198 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK201
    0.03125531 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK202
    0.03295764 Viking_Age_Dane:VK373
    0.03454096 Celtic_Britain:6DT21
    0.03588166 Celtic_Britain:S14491
    0.03628063 Celtic_Britain:6DT3
    0.03668998 Viking_Age_Dane:VK301
    0.03730689 Viking_Age_Dane:VK316
    0.03770029 Viking_Age_Norse:vik_stg021
    0.03814331 Medieval_Germanic:STR_316
    0.03831535 Viking_Age_Dane:VK312
    0.03837393 Medieval_Germanic:STR_355
    0.03838987 Celtic_Britain:M1489
    0.03838987 Celtic_Britain:M1489
    0.03915551 Viking_Age_Dane:VK300
    0.03931636 Medieval_Germanic:ALH_1


    Distance: 1.8992% / 0.01899219
    Target: Owen_scaled
    47.0 Celtic_Britain
    22.0 Viking_Age_Dane
    10.4 Medieval_Germanic
    10.1 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
    8.4 Viking_Age_Norse
    2.1 Levantine

    Distance to: Owen_scaled
    0.02686659 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.02686659 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03185848 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK202
    0.03255702 Celtic_Britain:S14491
    0.03503418 Medieval_Germanic:STR_355
    0.03546421 Celtic_Britain:6DT18
    0.03556790 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.03556790 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.03581212 Viking_Age_Dane:VK279
    0.03606498 Viking_Age_Dane:VK301
    0.03620601 Viking_Age_Dane:VK446
    0.03647687 Viking_Age_Dane:VK373
    0.03648364 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK207
    0.03655519 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK203
    0.03673612 Celtic_Britain:M1489
    0.03673612 Celtic_Britain:M1489
    0.03677208 Viking_Age_Dane:VK300
    0.03684430 Viking_Age_Dane:VK134
    0.03721862 Celtic_Britain:6DT21
    0.03746820 Viking_Age_Dane:VK312
    0.03762223 Viking_Age_Dane:VK316
    0.03762313 Celtic_Britain:3DT16
    0.03763427 Celtic_Britain:6DT23
    0.03797424 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK201
    0.03834992 Celtic_Britain:I0789


    A bit of a change but not much.
    Last edited by Nqp15hhu; 01-13-2021 at 06:23 PM.

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    With Orkney:

    Target: gar_ancestry_scaled
    Distance: 1.2238% / 0.01223798
    30.6 Iberia_Iron_Age
    30.4 Viking_Age_Norse
    13.6 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
    10.4 Celtic_Britain
    7.4 Medieval_Germanic
    4.0 Viking_Age_Dane
    3.6 Levantine

    Target: gar_ancestry_scaled
    Distance: 1.3637% / 0.01363749 | ADC: 0.25x
    33.2 Celtic_Britain
    30.2 Iberia_Iron_Age
    14.0 Viking_Age_Dane
    12.8 Viking_Age_Norse
    9.8 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA


    Previous results without Orkney:

    Target: gar_ancestry_scaled
    Distance: 1.2483% / 0.01248256
    29.6 Iberia_Iron_Age
    26.4 Viking_Age_Norse
    22.4 Celtic_Britain
    9.4 Viking_Age_Dane
    8.2 Medieval_Germanic
    4.0 Levantine

    Target: gar_ancestry_scaled
    Distance: 1.3814% / 0.01381381 | ADC: 0.25x
    45.4 Celtic_Britain
    29.6 Iberia_Iron_Age
    12.6 Viking_Age_Norse
    12.4 Viking_Age_Dane

    It seems to just split my Celtic Britain %.
    AncestryDNA results:
    England, Wales, & NW Europe 73%
    Ireland & Scotland 18%
    Germanic Europe 5%
    France 3%
    Cameroon, Congo 1%

    23&me results:
    British & Irish 62.9%
    French & German 15.0%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 19.4%
    Broadly Southern European 0.9%
    Broadly European 0.1%
    Sub-Saharan African 0.7%

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    V.3 gives me much more of a "calculator effect" because of the Levant samples. Northern samples increase to balance out that big Levant chunk.

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 1.4513% / 0.01451256
    44.0 Hellenic_Roman
    19.8 Levantine
    19.4 Proto_Slavic
    16.6 Thracian
    0.2 Viking_Age_Norse



    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS_Dad(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 1.6540% / 0.01653953
    30.6 Thracian
    27.6 Levantine
    22.8 Hellenic_Roman
    19.0 Proto_Slavic


    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
    Distance: 1.3213% / 0.01321330
    33.2 Hellenic_Roman
    26.6 Levantine
    20.0 Thracian
    13.4 Proto_Slavic
    6.8 Iberia_Iron_Age

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    Version 1:

    Target: Andour_scaled -- Distance: 1.6187% / 0.01618652

    46.4 Proto_Roman
    27.0 Celtic_Britannia
    17.2 Medieval_Germanic
    6.4 Thracian
    1.6 Hellenic_Roman
    1.4 Proto_Slavic

    Version 2:

    Target: Andour_scaled -- Distance: 1.5133% / 0.01513308

    48.8 Proto_Roman
    17.6 Viking_Age_Dane
    13.4 Medieval_Germanic
    10.4 Celtic_Britain
    4.2 Levantine
    3.2 Thracian
    2.4 Viking_Age_Norse

    Version 3:

    Target: Andour_scaled -- Distance: 1.4132% / 0.01413226

    31.0 Proto_Roman
    20.0 Iberia_Iron_Age
    17.4 Medieval_Germanic
    17.2 Viking_Age_Dane
    4.8 Hellenic_Roman
    3.2 Celtic_Britain
    3.0 Thracian
    2.4 Levantine
    1.0 Viking_Age_Norse
    Immi uiros rios toutias rias

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Version 3.0 Individuals


    Target: JMcB_scaled
    Distance: 1.2928% / 0.01292828 | ADC: 0.5x

    66.6 Celtic_Britain
    17.0 Iberia_Iron_Age
    10.6 Medieval_Germanic
    5.8 Viking_Age_Dane


    and with the Iberian samples removed:


    Target: JMcB_scaled
    Distance: 1.3272% / 0.01327181 | ADC: 0.5x

    63.0 Celtic_Britain
    18.8 Medieval_Germanic
    10.8 Proto_Roman
    7.4 Viking_Age_Dane


    Distance to: JMcB_scaled
    0.02488375 Celtic_Britain:3DT16
    0.03027369 Viking_Age_Dane:VK373
    0.03050729 Celtic_Britain:6DT18
    0.03097652 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.03097652 Celtic_Britain:I0160
    0.03122218 Medieval_Germanic:ALH_1
    0.03125391 Viking_Age_Dane:VK301
    0.03170450 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03170450 Celtic_Britain:I0156
    0.03216057 Celtic_Britain:S14491
    0.03668499 Celtic_Britain:M1489
    0.03668499 Celtic_Britain:M1489
    0.03731546 Celtic_Britain:6DT23
    0.03779981 Viking_Age_Dane:VK134
    0.03818252 Medieval_Germanic:ALH_10
    0.03867929 Viking_Age_Norse:vik_stg021
    0.03884080 Viking_Age_Dane:VK295
    0.03982938 Celtic_Britain:6DT21
    0.04034684 Viking_Age_Dane:VK370
    0.04115289 Celtic_Britain:6DT3
    0.04132534 Viking_Age_Dane:VK372
    0.04181962 Celtic_Britain:I0789
    0.04181962 Celtic_Britain:I0789
    0.04187561 Viking_Age_Dane:VK141
    0.04218448 Medieval_Germanic:STR_355



    For those who would like to add the unmixed Orkney samples, these are the ones that Michalis (very helpfully) listed as Insular Celtic.

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post714502


    PHP Code:
    VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK201,0.126344,0.138112,0.056945,0.044897,0.041854,0.013945,0.00188,0.003692,0.003272,-0.000182,-0.011692,0.005845,-0.02111,-0.014726,0.027687,-0.005569,-0.024251,-0.000887,0.00088,0.004502,0.007612,0.002349,-0.011092,0.018557,0.002395
    VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
    :VK202,0.121791,0.132019,0.055814,0.054587,0.040007,0.019801,-0.00423,0.003692,0.013294,0.012392,0.000974,0.010491,-0.015163,-0.01679,0.02538,0.009679,-0.000391,0.004941,0.00264,0.005002,0.005615,0.002226,-0.002835,0.009881,0.006586
    VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
    :VK203,0.124067,0.138112,0.062979,0.052972,0.033852,0.025937,0.001175,0.00923,0.001023,0.002916,-0.011205,0.007793,-0.014123,-0.014863,0.026058,-0.004641,-0.022948,0.002534,0.003771,0.01038,-0.002371,0.005688,-0.003944,0.01446,-0.000479
    VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
    :VK207,0.12862,0.135065,0.058077,0.04522,0.034776,0.013945,0.000235,0.003,0.00634,0.003645,-0.004547,0.008243,-0.016947,-0.013074,0.031623,-0.006629,-0.017211,0,0.005908,-0.002126,0.000624,0.009645,-0.00986,0.023738,0.002155 
    OK, I will add Orkney results as well.
    mix: 51.4% Greek Crete + 48.6% Turkish Central
    distance: 1.7523

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellebel View Post
    I think the southwestern European members aswell as those with Jewish ancestry could benefit from Guanches being added. And tbh, I'm also interested to see how it would affect French results and my mother's results especially. I tried adding the average, but I have no idea how to choose and pick individuals.
    It would be better to see Iron Age Celtic results from France but i have no idea. I guess French ancients has been done but not published yet.
    Btw, i will add Guanches too.
    mix: 51.4% Greek Crete + 48.6% Turkish Central
    distance: 1.7523

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greekscholar View Post
    V.3 gives me much more of a "calculator effect" because of the Levant samples. Northern samples increase to balance out that big Levant chunk.

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 1.4513% / 0.01451256
    44.0 Hellenic_Roman
    19.8 Levantine
    19.4 Proto_Slavic
    16.6 Thracian
    0.2 Viking_Age_Norse



    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS_Dad(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 1.6540% / 0.01653953
    30.6 Thracian
    27.6 Levantine
    22.8 Hellenic_Roman
    19.0 Proto_Slavic


    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
    Distance: 1.3213% / 0.01321330
    33.2 Hellenic_Roman
    26.6 Levantine
    20.0 Thracian
    13.4 Proto_Slavic
    6.8 Iberia_Iron_Age
    Could you try without Levantine samples? and please add both average and individuals.
    mix: 51.4% Greek Crete + 48.6% Turkish Central
    distance: 1.7523

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