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    Oceanian dna?

    Hey all,
    I have recently been wondering if the Oceanian dna that pops up on many calculators are legit for me, and I'm wondering if based on the numbers, one of you could help me with this? My father's side is mainly Croatian, and my mother's side is a mixture of Western European, Hungarian, and Jewish. I have a lot of early American colonial settlers from the 1600's on my mother side, so I used to automatically think the Oceanian was actually Native American or African, but maybe I'm wrong? Here are some of my results through gedmatch:

    MDLP K23B
    Melano Polynesian 1.56%

    Eurogenes K13
    Oceania 1.49%
    East Asian .3%

    Eurogenes K15 V2
    Oceanian 1.25%

    Dodecad World 9
    Australasian .98%

    Harappa World
    Papuan 1.03%

    PuntDNAL K15
    Oceanian 1.11%

    PuntDNAL K12
    Oceanian 1.43%

    PuntDNAL K13 Global
    Oceania 1.25%

    I don't receive any Oceanian on 23andme, Ancestry, or Myheritage. I used to receive 1% Oceania on Family Tree's Version 2, but it went away in the new update. Of the other dna websites I've uploaded my raw data to, I've received 1% Oceania (Papuan Islander) on Imap dna, .6 Papuan on Gene Plaza K35, .2 Papuan on Gene Plaza K29, .6 SE Asian on Adntro, .4 Oceanian on 24 Genetics.

    Your opinions would be greatly appreciated, as I'm trying to figure out if it is in fact Oceanian (and not Native American or African like I used to think), and if so, pinpoint exactly the region in the area, and how I may have received it in my genes. Thanks for any help you can provide me!

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    First, the Gedmatch models are old populations and from the way some here sound, the oracles are garbage. Get your raw data converted to the G25 coordinates.

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    Ancestry on paper: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Croatian, Ashkenazi, Polish and Māori.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalkanKiwi View Post
    Your post in the other thread has been deleted. This is your first and last warning regarding spamming the same post. If you continue doing so you will be suspended. Please read the forum's Terms of Service.
    I am so sorry, as this wasn't my intentions at all. I have a lot of respect for the research you provide on this board. I couldn't figure out how to delete the other post, so I didn't know what to do. Please forgive me.
    Last edited by casteneda; 01-11-2021 at 04:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casteneda View Post
    I am so sorry, as this wasn't my intentions at all. I have a lot of respect for the research you provide on this board. I couldn't figure out how to delete the other post, so I didn't know what to do. Please forgive me.
    Similarly to what JerryS has mentioned, you're better off getting your G25 coordinates. Its not uncommon for Jewish people to pick up trace amounts of Oceanian. What is difficult for you is locating an ancestor on paper, as you're unlikely to have an Oceanian ancestor given your provided ancestry (its not impossible however). It's unlikely that Oceanian is acting as a proxy for African. There's probably more of a chance that it would show for Native American, but that's just a guess. With your G25 coordinates you can use the abundance of calculators and attempt to model Oceanian populations. You may be left with more questions than answers though.
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    MDLP K23b
    Melano_Polynesian -

    Euro K13
    East_Asian 0.5 Pct
    South_Asian 0.55 Pct

    Euro K15
    Oceanian 0.52 Pct

    Dodecad W9
    Australasian 0.64 Pct

    HaraW
    Papuan 0.4 Pct

    puntK15
    Oceanian 0.53 Pct

    puntK12
    Oceanian 0.97 Pct

    puntK13 Global
    Oceania 0.95 Pct



    Gedmatch noise, nothing more. some DIY G25 models here have given me a smidgen though. get your G25 for a mere $12.
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    Thanks BalkanKiwi and Jerry S.for your help! I do have my coordinates and I'm still trying to figure out how to work them out. These are my coordinates:

    Brad_scaled,0.12862,0.135065,0.054305,0.042636,0.0 45547,0.011713,0.00987,0.006923,0.003272,-0.002916,-0.006658,-0.000899,-0.001784,-0.000413,-0.000814,0.008486,0.003651,-0.001774,0.000628,0.000375,-0.009483,-0.005564,0.004683,0.00241,0.006586

    Brad,0.0113,0.0133,0.0144,0.0132,0.0148,0.0042,0.0 042,0.003,0.0016,-0.0016,-0.0041,-0.0006,-0.0012,-0.0003,-0.0006,0.0064,0.0028,-0.0014,0.0005,0.0003,-0.0076,-0.0045,0.0038,0.002,0.0055

    Target: Brad_scaled
    Distance: 4.2490% / 0.04249047
    46.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    40.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    13.4 WHG

    I did create a genoplot account, and tried out some of the nmonte calculators. All of them show at least a little bit of Oceania, anything from .2 Oceania to 1.8 Oceania (almost always focused on Papuan). I do have Nansemond Tribe ancestors from generations back, so I'm wondering if that is the Oceania?

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    Quote Originally Posted by casteneda View Post
    Thanks BalkanKiwi and Jerry S.for your help! I do have my coordinates and I'm still trying to figure out how to work them out. These are my coordinates:
    Itīs just for fun but you can try this one:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....ed-references)

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    Completely normal for people with Levantine ancestry I also pick up about 1 to 2 percent dependent on models from g25 and I also score it one percent on my heritage

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    Itīs just for fun but you can try this one:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....ed-references)
    In that thread I scored (trace) Oceana but not levantine.

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