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    Off topic: LivingDNA has a sale for uploads, it's 19eur. Do you know if they accept Wgsextract files?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    I have thought about buying the kit, and i'm sure it'd yield different results. Has anyone compared AncestryDNA uploads with purchased kits?
    I have an Ancestry upload and purchased kit. These are my results:

    Purchased kit
    Great Britain and Ireland 98.1%
    Ireland 77.1%
    South Central England 6.5%
    Northwest Scotland 4.7%
    Southeast England 3.4%
    Northern Ireland and Southwest Scotland 3.1%
    East Anglia 2%
    South Wales 1.2%

    Europe (North and West) 1.9%
    Northwest Germanic 1.9%

    AncestryDNA upload
    Great Britain and Ireland 100%
    Ireland 87.2%
    South Wales 2.4%
    East Anglia 2.2%
    Northumbria 2.1%
    Northwest Scotland 1.8%
    Southeast England 1.5%
    South Central England 1.4%
    Northern Ireland and Southwest Scotland 1.3%
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (UŪ Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FionnSneachta View Post
    I have an Ancestry upload and purchased kit. These are my results:

    Purchased kit
    Great Britain and Ireland 98.1%
    Ireland 77.1%
    South Central England 6.5%
    Northwest Scotland 4.7%
    Southeast England 3.4%
    Northern Ireland and Southwest Scotland 3.1%
    East Anglia 2%
    South Wales 1.2%

    Europe (North and West) 1.9%
    Northwest Germanic 1.9%

    AncestryDNA upload
    Great Britain and Ireland 100%
    Ireland 87.2%
    South Wales 2.4%
    East Anglia 2.2%
    Northumbria 2.1%
    Northwest Scotland 1.8%
    Southeast England 1.5%
    South Central England 1.4%
    Northern Ireland and Southwest Scotland 1.3%
    So which do you think is most accurate?

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    I find the expectations we have rather bizarre.
    After all of the genome shuffling from generation to generation, we then expect our particular sampling to provide an accurate reflection of past generations on every line.
    Some of my lines have matches that on paper come from a very long way back, but others don't go far.
    OK, the segments we rely on for familial matching might have been whittled down to the extent that they are no longer useful.
    The main reason for that is that at that level we cannot be certain that the jigsaw pieces of DNA analysed might not have been put back together properly.
    But surely ethnicity predictions rely on multiple markers that can't all have disappeared in the shuffle, or mis-reassembled.

    Ideally, I would like to take an aggregate of my siblings' and close cousins' DNA and work from commonalities.
    But it's easier for me to triangulate segments and look at those matches on them, and their shared regionality and antecedents.
    Some of my ethnicity estimates say I have Swedish or maybe Mecklenburg ancestors.
    The segment approach is beginning to suggest that these two may go together, so I may have a geographical pathway by which this line moved further south.

    My one tiny connection to real south Irish have been totally buried under false south Irish.
    If it were not for her Nottinghamshire husband I would have missed her altogether.
    In that case, ethnicity estimates have been of no help, while familial DNA and documents found her.

    Meanwhile, one of my Scottish lines is also represented as Irish - from the north.
    And it well may have been largely so, although the matching surname lines are Scottish - maybe way back: most of these matches have been in northern Ireland for a few hundred years at least. But as the documents fizzle out around 1780 with a change in name/spelling, I can't track the Scottish side back to meet the Irish.
    Not yet, anyway.
    What is keeping me moving forwards hopefully on this line is again a segment approach.
    The alternative of waiting for the perfect ethnicity estimate is one that may never come.
    At least, not for me.
    And I am quite used to working with phenomena that when you do them one way will not happen within the total lifetime of the universe,
    whereas with a few tweaks they happen in a few minutes.
    So I am going with the tweaked version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    So which do you think is most accurate?
    Well naturally I would consider the upload more accurate since my only known ancestry is Irish. However, you would expect that the actual purchased kit should be more accurate.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (UŪ Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    The ethnicity estimates are just a bit of fun for me since I already know my ancestry. There isn't any mystery origins that I'm trying to uncover. I initially did DNA tests for the matches. The ethnicity estimates were always just a novelty for me. I keep an eye an updates just for curiosity's sake and see if it's matching up with my known ancestry. I didn't have an identity crisis when Living DNA initially gave me 19% Ireland.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (UŪ Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    Off topic: LivingDNA has a sale for uploads, it's 19eur. Do you know if they accept Wgsextract files?
    Kind of tempted. But I was disappointed with other estimates e.g. MyHeritage.

    But Iím curious as to whether Iíll finally be part of the London community , or if Southern Europe will pop up again.

    I can already predict that I will end up somewhat Irish again.

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    I donít have an identity crisis. I just donít think the LivingDNA results are accurate.

    For ex, I donít believe that most of my Scottish Dna is from the Highlands.

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    I don't have an identity crisis, either. I actually know my ancestry pretty well out to 5th great grandparents. Not perfectly, and of course there's always the possibility of an NPE here and there in any family. But when even recent portions of ancestry are completely missed (or mischaracterized), it isn't always because the customer is wrong about his or her ancestry.

    Sometimes, it really is the testing company. Could be their algorithm, could be their reference populations, could be something else. But if you think companies don't get it wrong, then why do their analyses often change dramatically with new updates?
    Besides British-German-Catalan, ancestry includes smaller amounts of French, Irish, Swiss, Choctaw & another NA tribe, possibly Catawba. Avatar picture is: my father, his father, & his father's father; baby is my eldest brother.

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    I have another account that says 5 regions missing, is it worth buying that to see what the results are? The current kit has 4 regions, or is the British Isles also accounted as one region, bringing that to four?

    I don't want to waste the money if its going to be the same result.

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