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    New ancient samples [G25]

    I found those samples in the comment section in Eurogenes Blog.

    https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2021/...theast-vs.html
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H8J...eQ0ox1qGS/view


    Code:
    Scaled
    
    HUN_Gava_BA:I20771,0.144555,0.133034,0.063356,0.047481,0.051394,0.018407,0.00282,0.004384,0.010431,0.011481,-0.000487,-0.01139,-0.001635,0.003578,-0.007736,0.017369,0.024903,-0.011149,0,0.013632,0.007736,0.003586,0.000739,-0.014339,-0.00491
    HUN_Hatvan-Fuzesabony_BA:I20772,0.134311,0.132019,0.065996,0.057494,0.031083,0.026216,0.008695,0.007846,0.008181,-0.015672,-0.002598,-0.003297,0.005203,0.004266,0.007872,0.010475,-0.001434,-0.003294,-0.000377,0.008754,0.010981,0.002226,0.000739,-0.006386,-0.003832
    HUN_LaTene_IA:I20774,0.137726,0.137096,0.061471,0.046835,0.042469,0.020638,0.00376,0.008307,0.00634,-0.000911,-0.01023,0.000599,-0.001933,0.011698,0.006107,-0.00358,-0.019297,0.008361,0.007668,-0.003752,0.004367,0.006306,-0.001356,-0.004699,0.003473
    HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20743,0.141141,0.140143,0.075047,0.046189,0.047086,0.014781,0.004465,0.004846,0.017794,0.007289,-0.000812,0.001948,0.00223,0.004129,-0.002443,0.012994,0.008345,-0.008995,0.000377,0.016883,0.007612,0.007666,0.003574,-0.024582,0.000599
    HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20745,0.141141,0.135065,0.075424,0.070414,0.042777,0.014502,0.002585,-0.000231,0.000818,-0.012574,0,-0.004946,0.010852,0.00867,-0.00095,0.006762,0.016168,-0.000127,0.01169,0.007128,0.001373,-0.007296,0.000123,-0.009037,-0.001676
    HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20746,0.141141,0.136081,0.054682,0.017119,0.045239,0.013108,0.000235,-0.001154,0.013294,0.010387,-0.002273,0.003447,-0.004608,-0.000413,-0.00855,0.007292,0.020861,0.004307,0.006159,0.01063,0.002745,-0.000989,0.001972,0.00241,0.000599
    RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:I20784,0.141141,0.117801,0.045632,0.07429,0.002462,0.022311,0.002115,0.012461,-0.00634,-0.032074,-0.004872,0.003147,-0.003271,-0.025735,0.007057,0.015248,0.010822,-0.004181,-0.008045,0.014882,0.00287,0.002597,-0.008627,0.003615,-0.008742
    UKR_Meso:I20753_dup.I5885,0.142279,0.089367,0.16367,0.180881,0.068936,0.049921,0.001645,0.014769,0.024134,-0.044101,0.004222,-0.019033,0.03107,-0.019267,0.017508,0.032219,0.009779,-0.001267,-0.005405,0.032391,0.028325,0.014344,-0.015159,-0.07001,0.005987
    
    Raw
    
    HUN_Gava_BA:I20771,0.0127,0.0131,0.0168,0.0147,0.0167,0.0066,0.0012,0.0019,0.0051,0.0063,-0.0003,-0.0076,-0.0011,0.0026,-0.0057,0.0131,0.0191,-0.0088,0,0.0109,0.0062,0.0029,0.0006,-0.0119,-0.0041
    HUN_Hatvan-Fuzesabony_BA:I20772,0.0118,0.013,0.0175,0.0178,0.0101,0.0094,0.0037,0.0034,0.004,-0.0086,-0.0016,-0.0022,0.0035,0.0031,0.0058,0.0079,-0.0011,-0.0026,-0.0003,0.007,0.0088,0.0018,0.0006,-0.0053,-0.0032
    HUN_LaTene_IA:I20774,0.0121,0.0135,0.0163,0.0145,0.0138,0.0074,0.0016,0.0036,0.0031,-0.0005,-0.0063,0.0004,-0.0013,0.0085,0.0045,-0.0027,-0.0148,0.0066,0.0061,-0.003,0.0035,0.0051,-0.0011,-0.0039,0.0029
    HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20743,0.0124,0.0138,0.0199,0.0143,0.0153,0.0053,0.0019,0.0021,0.0087,0.004,-0.0005,0.0013,0.0015,0.003,-0.0018,0.0098,0.0064,-0.0071,0.0003,0.0135,0.0061,0.0062,0.0029,-0.0204,0.0005
    HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20745,0.0124,0.0133,0.02,0.0218,0.0139,0.0052,0.0011,-0.0001,0.0004,-0.0069,0,-0.0033,0.0073,0.0063,-0.0007,0.0051,0.0124,-0.0001,0.0093,0.0057,0.0011,-0.0059,0.0001,-0.0075,-0.0014
    HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20746,0.0124,0.0134,0.0145,0.0053,0.0147,0.0047,0.0001,-0.0005,0.0065,0.0057,-0.0014,0.0023,-0.0031,-0.0003,-0.0063,0.0055,0.016,0.0034,0.0049,0.0085,0.0022,-0.0008,0.0016,0.002,0.0005
    RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:I20784,0.0124,0.0116,0.0121,0.023,0.0008,0.008,0.0009,0.0054,-0.0031,-0.0176,-0.003,0.0021,-0.0022,-0.0187,0.0052,0.0115,0.0083,-0.0033,-0.0064,0.0119,0.0023,0.0021,-0.007,0.003,-0.0073
    UKR_Meso:I20753_dup.I5885,0.0125,0.0088,0.0434,0.056,0.0224,0.0179,0.0007,0.0064,0.0118,-0.0242,0.0026,-0.0127,0.0209,-0.014,0.0129,0.0243,0.0075,-0.001,-0.0043,0.0259,0.0227,0.0116,-0.0123,-0.0581,0.005
    Target: HUN_Gava_BA:I20771
    Distance: 4.6600% / 0.04660049
    40.4 Barcin_N
    38.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    21.0 WHG


    Target: HUN_Hatvan-Fuzesabony_BA:I20772
    Distance: 3.8884% / 0.03888383
    50.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    31.6 Barcin_N
    17.8 WHG


    Target: HUN_LaTene_IA:I20774
    Distance: 5.5155% / 0.05515496
    45.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    38.2 Barcin_N
    16.8 WHG


    Target: HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20743
    Distance: 3.9618% / 0.03961802
    40.0 Barcin_N
    36.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    23.4 WHG


    Target: HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20745
    Distance: 5.3274% / 0.05327386
    48.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    31.6 Barcin_N
    19.6 WHG


    Target: HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20746
    Distance: 4.0062% / 0.04006236
    48.6 Barcin_N
    37.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    13.6 WHG


    Target: RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:I20784
    Distance: 3.6951% / 0.03695053
    66.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    24.0 Barcin_N
    9.8 WHG


    Target: UKR_Meso:I20753_dup.I5885
    Distance: 7.6032% / 0.07603190
    55.0 WHG
    42.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    2.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
    0.2 Kolyma_Siberia_Mesolithic


    I guess that the Vekerzug samples are culturally scythians, but genetically are 100% europeans.
    Ukr_Meso looks like a mixed WHG and EHG.
    Target: Andre_scaled
    Distance: 4.7247% / 0.04724728
    50.8 Early_Anatolian_Farmer
    41.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
    5.4 Western_HG
    2.2 North/East_Asia

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    The coverage of the samples is quite low, it's a real shame ... maybe only the first 3 are saved.

    Read Count
    Base Count
    Sample Alias
    10,629,647
    580,453,172 I20753
    9,020,785 486,425,887 I20746
    8,990,038 437,875,893 I20774
    7,206,056 358,367,505 I20745
    6,529,286 298,032,773 I20771
    6,135,635 325,058,329 I20772
    5,590,250 338,430,759 I20743
    5,565,475 323,776,638 I20784
    Last edited by Ajeje Brazorf; 01-20-2021 at 10:35 PM.
    [1] "distance%=2.9299"

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    EEF,51.4
    BALTIC_BA,12.6
    GANJ_DAREH,10.8
    CHG,10.4
    MIDDLE_EAST,10
    ANE,2.4
    TAFORALT,1.8
    WHG,0.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Which study are these from?
    Known ancestry: 53.1 SW England, 29.7 SW Ireland, 6.3 SE Ireland, 6.3 SW Wales, 3.1 NW Ireland (?), 1.6 NW England
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalis View Post
    Which study are these from?
    I don’t know.
    Target: Andre_scaled
    Distance: 4.7247% / 0.04724728
    50.8 Early_Anatolian_Farmer
    41.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
    5.4 Western_HG
    2.2 North/East_Asia

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    Where is dataset available (not g25 but raw samples)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoryBot View Post
    Where is dataset available (not g25 but raw samples)?
    I have no idea.
    Target: Andre_scaled
    Distance: 4.7247% / 0.04724728
    50.8 Early_Anatolian_Farmer
    41.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
    5.4 Western_HG
    2.2 North/East_Asia

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    My take on La Tene sample:

    HUN_LaTene_IA__I20774 sample is from Besenyszög Berek-ér partja, Hungary and it is dated to 250 BCE.


    similarity map:



    Its IA decomposition:


    HUN_LaTene_IA__I20774_sc.txt
    -------------- ANCESTRY BREAKDOWN: -------------
    24.852% -892__Scotland_LBA__I2860
    21.640% -500__Baltic_LVA_BA__Kivutkalns215
    17.649% -300__Scythian_MDA__scy305
    14.177% -775__CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany__DA111
    7.230% -550__Iberia_East_IA__I3322
    5.333% -500__Baltic_LVA_BA__Kivutkalns42
    4.884% -45__England_IA__I0160
    4.235% -175__FRA_IA__PEY53
    ------------------------------------------------
    Fit error: 0.015490143815443952


    From this I can extract its 3 main components: Celtic, Baltic and Scythian:







    But its Baltic and Scythian have the proportions for Slavic. Its merged Baltic and Scythian profile:




    Code:
    I20774__Baltic,0.142271938,0.133568141,0.097164036,0.10572043,0.051685499,0.042502187,0.01242564,0.021203298,0.001331302,-0.048316064,-0.008315015,-0.018451494,0.032480027,0.045340785,-0.013000529,-0.002625329,-0.019388536,0.007510389,0.004432468,0.006133221,0.005001458,-0.001256298,0.00323252,-0.021496997,0.007455877
    I20774__Scythian,0.126560979,0.127073036,0.009582464,-0.015808437,0.019109037,-0.003302597,-0.002423871,-0.000361873,0.001278419,0.023755868,-0.008754238,0.008348192,-0.012371463,0.013033425,-0.009055214,0.001403927,-0.011437398,0.00789554,0.019638869,-0.011787425,-0.006914651,0.009558361,-0.005422187,0.008936511,0.003517697
    I20774__Celtic,0.139070106,0.142008641,0.060622875,0.038121744,0.045422942,0.017618477,0.00151183,0.00478656,0.010390913,0.014315466,-0.011633059,0.007406459,-0.015364221,-0.005114015,0.020245923,-0.005633372,-0.021757275,0.00892365,0.00542881,-0.006005907,0.007653442,0.008951038,-0.002295037,-0.000862833,0.001518812
    I20774__Balto-Scythian__-Slavic,0.136057902,0.130999182,0.062523563,0.057653042,0.038800779,0.02438537,0.006552326,0.01267379,0.001310386,-0.019810002,-0.008488737,-0.007851618,0.014740259,0.032562501,-0.011440069,-0.001031668,-0.016243683,0.007662725,0.01044694,-0.000954796,0.00028837,0.003021142,-0.00019061,-0.009459863,0.005898239
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    Target: Owen_scaled
    Distance: 4.2683% / 0.04268251
    48.6 HUN_LaTene_IA
    35.6 RUS_Fatyanovo_BA
    15.8 HUN_Vekerzug_IA

    Target: OwenDad_scaled
    Distance: 4.2641% / 0.04264054
    44.8 RUS_Fatyanovo_BA
    43.0 HUN_Vekerzug_IA
    12.2 HUN_LaTene_IA

    Target: OwenMom_scaled
    Distance: 4.5474% / 0.04547370
    61.6 HUN_LaTene_IA
    30.2 RUS_Fatyanovo_BA
    8.2 HUN_Vekerzug_IA

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    Target: b
    Distance: 3.2111% / 0.03211057
    83.2 HUN_LaTene_IA
    16.8 HUN_Vekerzug_IA

    Distance to: b
    0.03374490 HUN_LaTene_IA:I20774
    0.05935444 HUN_Hatvan-Fuzesabony_BA:I20772
    0.06053890 HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20746
    0.06666896 HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20743
    0.07532300 HUN_Vekerzug_IA:I20745
    0.07657147 HUN_Gava_BA:I20771
    0.09945899 RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:I20784
    0.23360691 UKR_Meso:I20753_dup.I5885

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