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    New model for Mediterraneans and West-Asians

    Share your results! Can't promise good results for Northern Europeans, but this one seems to sharply split differences between Italians, Greeks, Western Jews and Iberians which I liked.

    Levant_Sidon_MBA,0.08127,0.146846,-0.06132,-0.097934,-0.010525,-0.038933,-0.004794,-0.0066,0.011453,0.010169,0.01049,-0.009771,0.021586,0.005505,-0.007573,0.006523,-0.000156,-0.001191,0.001508,0.004252,0.004267,0.007543,-0.001257,0.001591,-0.000503
    Bell_Beaker_ITA_o,0.126344,0.170609,0.033941,-0.05814,0.078476,-0.035419,-0.002115,-0.000231,0.059516,0.0831,0.002923,0.014387,-0.023042,-0.00055,-0.024022,-0.01432,-0.009648,-0.005574,0.008799,-0.018259,-0.002371,0.009521,-0.010476,-0.025305,-0.005149
    GRC_Minoan_Lassithi,0.119287,0.170609,-0.018177,-0.093993,0.029544,-0.039826,-0.001316,-0.003461,0.010349,0.05981,0.002988,0.015316,-0.025124,-5.5e-05,-0.037459,-0.010952,0.017393,-0.001242,0.008874,-0.013632,-0.013376,0.008384,-0.005078,-0.00106,-0.002443
    Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.101303,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.049855,-0.009203,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.003085,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.004207,-0.010209,-0.00013,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.003252,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.003697,-0.009098,-0.003054
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,0.079904,0.118614,-0.104236,-0.054264,-0.067151,-0.012494,0.005499,-0.00863,-0.047818,-0.016875,0.002468,0.00051,-0.001427,-0.001156,0.00342,0.017025,-0.002868,0.004662,0.008221,-0.014682,0.007063,-0.005787,-0.001528,-0.016243,0.007257
    Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.039383,0.13141,-0.002338,-0.068735,0.033729,-0.036367,-0.029987,0.008261,0.070888,0.030543,0.007567,-0.005995,0.018256,-0.017698,0.023208,-0.013047,0.003181,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.013476,-0.037714,0.023269,-0.001181,0.004622
    Yamnaya:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash,0.122929,0.08632,0.03 9598,0.10756,-0.020619,0.046854,0.000705,-0.010384,-0.059107,-0.070525,-0.00682,0.002698,-0.005798,-0.027525,0.040445,0.0179,0.002868,-0.005954,-0.006662,0.009379,-0.011105,-0.003833,0.008874,0.026269,-0.00958
    Yamnaya:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke,0.1161,0.073118,0.04072 9,0.117896,-0.032929,0.059961,-0.00517,-0.003,-0.052972,-0.080548,0.002436,-0.006744,0.001933,-0.027662,0.034473,0.008751,-0.021122,-0.004814,0.002388,0.014632,0.000499,0.006059,0.018 117,0.016629,-0.004071
    Yamnaya:Yamnaya_RUS_Caucasus,0.113254,0.08175,0.02 555,0.106106,-0.041008,0.039393,0.002409,-0.00825,-0.063811,-0.077724,-0.001461,-0.007119,-0.000557,-0.025047,0.032505,0.007027,-0.009485,-0.001489,-0.004839,0.00519,-0.003307,0.003431,0.004283,0.012502,-0.006287
    Yamnaya:Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia,0.115189,0.092007,0.0 46537,0.112986,-0.027636,0.042057,0.004371,-0.003646,-0.053994,-0.074352,-0.000942,0.00045,-0.001011,-0.023616,0.02785,0.011615,0.001226,-0.002559,0.000754,0.010255,-0.004243,0.000569,0.016244,0.023015,-0.003545
    Yamnaya:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.125584,0.089028,0.042 698,0.115347,-0.028723,0.045056,0.003603,-0.002564,-0.055903,-0.072894,0.001822,3.3e-05,-0.002692,-0.023304,0.036614,0.015763,-0.001231,-0.001788,-0.003841,0.01377,-0.003175,0.000756,0.011065,0.01861,-0.004537
    Yamnaya:Yamnaya_UKR,0.119514,0.087336,0.045254,0.1 10628,-0.028313,0.042531,0.00846,-0.003461,-0.052154,-0.070799,0.000244,0.004421,-0.004311,-0.020231,0.032301,0.01074,-0.000261,-0.011529,-0.005531,0.002376,-0.002808,0.000433,-0.009367,0.01928,0.003113
    Yamnaya:Yamnaya_BGR,0.113823,0.123895,0.034318,0.0 40375,0.003693,0.012829,0.003055,0.001615,-0.02127,-0.014579,0.005846,0.003897,-0.014271,0.00867,0.011401,-0.013524,-0.005998,0.000253,-0.000628,-0.004752,0.004742,0.005441,-0.002588,-0.000482,0.001197
    Bell_Beaker_Iberia,0.126495,0.159641,0.0578,-0.012145,0.073593,-0.012029,-0.007849,0.003769,0.050149,0.073344,-0.004525,0.013818,-0.02888,-0.019313,0.002027,0.0016,0.009188,0.000515,0.00124 ,2e-04,0.010798,-0.00047,-0.01069,-0.028687,0.001054
    BGR_Varna_C,0.125205,0.168578,0.017348,-0.054587,0.053548,-0.03263,0.006345,-0.006461,0.030065,0.067245,0.005521,0.00015,-0.017839,0.00055,-0.033523,-0.009679,0.016689,0.001774,0.013701,-0.001876,-0.00861,0.007914,-0.009983,-0.010001,-0.002036
    East-Eurasian:RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.01622,-0.44404,0.072219,-0.051115,-0.037392,-0.039533,0.003408,0.00848,0.006494,0.019408,-0.048595,-0.004833,-0.003085,0.00867,-0.009602,-0.013392,-0.000782,0.0089,0.017441,0.010036,0.008828,-0.027729,-0.01747,-0.00244,-0.01458
    West-African:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
    East-Africaninka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995

    Target: Seabass_Mum_scaled
    Distance: 2.2655% / 0.02265456
    34.2 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    24.4 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
    14.4 Bell_Beaker_Iberia
    9.2 Yamnaya
    9.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    6.6 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
    2.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps

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    Israel
    Target: Talombo_scaled
    Distance: 1.6718% / 0.01671813
    28.8 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    18.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    13.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    9.4 Bell_Beaker_ITA_o
    8.8 BGR_Varna_C
    8.6 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
    8.2 Yamnaya
    5.0 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi

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    H11a2a

    United States of America Germany England France Scotland Ireland
    me:

    Distance: 3.157045669518014%

    Bell_Beaker_Iberia: 43.0%
    Yamnaya: 40.4%
    Bell_Beaker_ITA_o: 16.5%

    dad:

    Distance: 3.582011701183161%

    Bell_Beaker_Iberia: 42.8%
    Yamnaya: 38.9%
    BGR_Varna_C: 16.6%
    East-Eurasian: 1.5%
    Canary_Islands_Guanche: 0.2%

    mom:

    Distance: 3.28502805087754%

    Yamnaya: 42.1%
    Bell_Beaker_Iberia: 38.5%
    Bell_Beaker_ITA_o: 19.4%

    wife:

    Distance: 3.344288853037237%

    Yamnaya: 44.9%
    Bell_Beaker_Iberia: 34.2%
    Bell_Beaker_ITA_o: 20.9%

    fil:

    Distance: 4.51811275460466%

    Yamnaya: 49.1%
    Bell_Beaker_Iberia: 34.9%
    Bell_Beaker_ITA_o: 16.0%

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    Israel Jerusalem Star of David Israel South Africa
    Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
    Distance: 2.7235% / 0.02723484
    37.0 Yamnaya
    32.2 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    16.0 Bell_Beaker_ITA_o
    6.6 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    6.6 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
    1.0 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
    0.6 East-Eurasian
    Other Y-DNA:

    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441

    Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
    Distance: 2.4552% / 0.02455222
    34.4 Levant_Beirut_IAIII
    19.2 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    13.6 GRC_Helladic_MBA
    9.2 DEU_MA
    8.4 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA
    7.8 EGY_Hellenistic
    6.0 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
    1.4 CHN_Chuanyun_Historic

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    HV0-T195C!

    Croatia Austrian Empire European Union
    Not very accurate:

    Target: ph2ter_scaled
    Distance: 4.9805% / 0.04980495
    63.0 Yamnaya
    26.6 Bell_Beaker_ITA_o
    10.4 Bell_Beaker_Iberia
     
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    Target: Andreas_scaled
    Distance: 1.1256% / 0.01125568
    44.6 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    31.8 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
    10.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    6.2 Yamnaya
    4.2 Bell_Beaker_ITA_o
    1.4 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
    1.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche

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    V

    Byzantine Empire Greece Cyprus Greek Macedonia Empire of Trebizond
    Target: ChristosA_scaled
    Distance: 2.3670% / 0.02367033
    32.6 Yamnaya
    29.8 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
    23.2 BGR_Varna_C
    7.4 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    7.0 Bell_Beaker_ITA_o

    Target: Christos_father_scaled
    Distance: 3.0301% / 0.03030112
    29.0 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
    28.6 Yamnaya
    27.2 BGR_Varna_C
    14.8 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    0.4 East-Eurasian

    Target: Christos_mother_scaled
    Distance: 2.9121% / 0.02912064
    37.0 Yamnaya
    30.4 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
    25.0 BGR_Varna_C
    7.4 Bell_Beaker_ITA_o
    0.2 Levant_Sidon_MBA

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    Here is how the Greek averages score. Happy enough they didn't score much Italian or Iberian Bell Beaker.

    Greeks 27.01.2021.JPG

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    Scotland England Australia Star of David Turkey Egypt
    Quote Originally Posted by talombo View Post
    Target: Talombo_scaled
    Distance: 1.6718% / 0.01671813
    28.8 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    18.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    13.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    9.4 Bell_Beaker_ITA_o
    8.8 BGR_Varna_C
    8.6 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
    8.2 Yamnaya
    5.0 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
    Distance: 2.7235% / 0.02723484
    37.0 Yamnaya
    32.2 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    16.0 Bell_Beaker_ITA_o
    6.6 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    6.6 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
    1.0 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
    0.6 East-Eurasian
    This is how Western Jewish averages and some individual samples fared.

    Western Jews 27.01.2021.JPG

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    H1a1

    Sweden Italy Italy 1861-1946 Sami Vatican Italy Tuscany
    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 2.9846% / 0.02984600
    55.2 Bell_Beaker_Iberia
    43.2 Yamnaya
    1.6 East-Eurasian
    Thanks. Always interesting with different calculators. I am not an expert but is Bell_Beaker a EEF+ WHG culture that existed before Yamnaya arrived to Europe?
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    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 1.7288% / 0.01728791 | R3P
    51.6 VK2020_IRL_Eyrephort_VA = Germanic
    37.4 Levant_LBN_MA_o6 = South Euro
    11.0 RUS_Chalmny-Varre = Saami

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