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    Post Mesolithic and Neolithic transitions in South Asia


    The earliest date, 10,646BP, comes from the Baghor II site in Uttar Pradesh; dates from burial locations at Bhimbetka range from 4,480to 3,290 BP. In Srilanka some sites radiocarbon dated to as early as 32,000 BP.

    This thread is to showcase all these earliest homosapien finds in South Asia and form a theory on the possible source and haplogroups
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    There was also Mahadaha's earliest date from 12,190 +- 410 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post

    The earliest date, 10,646BP, comes from the Baghor II site in Uttar Pradesh; dates from burial locations at Bhimbetka range from 4,480to 3,290 BP. In Srilanka some sites radiocarbon dated to as early as 32,000 BP.

    This thread is to showcase all these earliest homosapien finds in South Asia and form a theory on the possible source and haplogroups
    Preliminary very rough Y-DNA guesses-

    Mesolithic: H1 and C

    Neolithic: J2, R2, and possibly some G.

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    Regarding things that happened after the end of the LGM (~16,000 years ago): My guess is an earlier migration of eastern Iranian haplogroups no later than 12,000 years ago.
    Last edited by Aleph; 02-06-2021 at 12:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleph View Post
    Regarding things that happened after the end of the LGM (~16,000 years ago): My guess is an earlier migration of eastern Iranian haplogroups no later than 12,000 years ago.
    You are guessing that Iran related Y-DNA lineages arrived in South Asia during the Mesolithic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    You are guessing that Iran related Y-DNA lineages arrived in South Asia during the Mesolithic?
    Yes that is my current guess. Though there would be later exchanges as well, but I think that there was a prominent early wave just before holocene began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleph View Post
    Yes that is my current guess. Though there would be later exchanges as well, but I think that there was a prominent early wave just before holocene began.
    What makes you think that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    What makes you think that?
    Some reasons. Not worth listing until mesolithic/pre-10,000 years DNA from south Asia is published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleph View Post
    Some reasons. Not worth listing until mesolithic/pre-10,000 years DNA from south Asia is published.
    Have you heard anything about when some Mesolithic samples from South Asia may be published?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Have you heard anything about when some Mesolithic samples from South Asia may be published?
    I don't have insider info.

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