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    Confused about results - Scandinavia/UK ancestry

    Hello!

    I wonder if someone please could shed some light on my genetic ancestry. I have done a MyHeritage test and the results were:
    Scandinavia (Norway) 50,4%
    England 41,4%
    Baltic 8,2%

    Most of my relatives are from Norway, on both sides of my family. I have not been able to find close relatives of my mother's father though.
    So my question is: I have got considerable DNA from England. But on what side of the family?

    I don't believe in a Viking age connection, since most of the people in this area have mostly Scandinavian ancestry.

    Thank you very much in advance for your advice!

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    Hello!

    I'm Dutch (Frisian) and here are my MyHeritage results:
    Scandinavian 48%
    England 37,6%
    North- and West-European 10,2%
    Finnish 4,2%

    Our Scandinavian and English results are very similar!

    English people are the descendants of Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians and vikings. There's a lot of overlap, because these peoples were genetically closely related and they still are. I posted a similar question on this board and they gave me this explanation.

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    A lot of the tests have trouble telling Scandinavian (esp Norwegian) and English ancestry apart. I wouldn't assume you are wrong about your ancestry without more. If you have English cousins on MyH, I'd try to figure out the connection.

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    I am British and MyHeritage gives me Scandinavian. Other tests like 23andme and AncestryDNA don’t give me any.

    British people are similar to Scandinavians as Scandinavian-like people have invaded and settled the British Isles multiple times, from the Saxons to the Vikings. Even the Normans, though they invaded from France, were very Scandinavian admixed.

    In addition, Norway and particularly Iceland have an Irish and Scottish influence due to Vikings taking wives and slaves from Ireland and Scotland.
    23andme V5.9: 97.3% British and Irish, 2.3% Spanish and Portuguese, 0.2% Broadly Southern European, 0.2% Unassigned
    AncestryDNA 2020: 50% England & Northwestern Europe, 35% Ireland, 15% Scotland
    Paper trail to 1850s: County Mayo 25%, Essex 25%, London 15.625%, Hampshire/Southampton 12.5%, Lancashire/Liverpool 9.375%, Devon 6.25%, Suffolk 3.125%, County Cavan 3.125%, Gibraltar (military service)

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    Have you gotten your Global25 coordinates?
    https://bga101.blogspot.com/2017/10/...ore-to-be.html

    You can ask the friendly people on here to model you.

    The Norway average is my closest, which confused me at first I do not have a recent Scandinavian ancestor, though I can't guarantee past 5 generations.

    Distance to: Lana_scaled
    0.01782460 Norwegian
    0.01835799 Scottish
    0.01871785 Irish
    0.01930533 Orcadian
    0.01961555 Dutch
    0.02003706 English
    23andme V5.9: 97.3% British and Irish, 2.3% Spanish and Portuguese, 0.2% Broadly Southern European, 0.2% Unassigned
    AncestryDNA 2020: 50% England & Northwestern Europe, 35% Ireland, 15% Scotland
    Paper trail to 1850s: County Mayo 25%, Essex 25%, London 15.625%, Hampshire/Southampton 12.5%, Lancashire/Liverpool 9.375%, Devon 6.25%, Suffolk 3.125%, County Cavan 3.125%, Gibraltar (military service)

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    Interesting result, but I don't think you should assume any legitimate connection to the British isles within the last 300 years. There is very real overlap between various sub-populations of Norway and the British isles. Your result is still within the spectrum of regional variation you'd find in Norway, especially in the coastal areas. The connection is a lot more ancient than the Viking age, with well-attested maritime trade-routes between Scandinavia and the British isles existing already in the Nordic Bronze age. Of course, this is not something most commercial test-providers are aware of or take into account.

    Can I ask where approximately in Norway your ancestry is from? The "English" input would be typical of someone from Western Norway, but the Baltic suggests somewhere closer to Sweden.
    Last edited by Bygdedweller; 02-07-2021 at 09:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    Have you gotten your Global25 coordinates?
    https://bga101.blogspot.com/2017/10/...ore-to-be.html

    You can ask the friendly people on here to model you.

    The Norway average is my closest, which confused me at first I do not have a recent Scandinavian ancestor, though I can't guarantee past 5 generations.

    Distance to: Lana_scaled
    0.01782460 Norwegian
    0.01835799 Scottish
    0.01871785 Irish
    0.01930533 Orcadian
    0.01961555 Dutch
    0.02003706 English
    Hey Lana,

    These are my G25 results:
    Distance to: Elske_scaled
    0.02601913 Norwegian
    0.02857167 Irish
    0.02952400 Dutch
    0.02978586 Danish
    0.03012991 Shetlandic
    0.03045890 Scottish
    0.03135348 Icelandic
    0.03139393 English
    0.03218004 Welsh
    0.03273522 Orcadian
    0.03432729 Swedish
    0.03468523 English_Cornwall

    My distances are a bit higher than yours. I've used the raw data from MyHeritage for the G25 coordinates. Would it make a difference if I used the raw data from a different company or would the outcome be exactly the same? I want to do the 23andme test as well...that's the reason why I'm asking this question. I'm such a newbie on this subject haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elske View Post
    Hey Lana,

    These are my G25 results:
    Distance to: Elske_scaled
    0.02601913 Norwegian
    0.02857167 Irish
    0.02952400 Dutch
    0.02978586 Danish
    0.03012991 Shetlandic
    0.03045890 Scottish
    0.03135348 Icelandic
    0.03139393 English
    0.03218004 Welsh
    0.03273522 Orcadian
    0.03432729 Swedish
    0.03468523 English_Cornwall

    My distances are a bit higher than yours. I've used the raw data from MyHeritage for the G25 coordinates. Would it make a difference if I used the raw data from a different company or would the outcome be exactly the same? I want to do the 23andme test as well...that's the reason why I'm asking this question. I'm such a newbie on this subject haha!
    I have two sets of coordinates: one AncestryDNA and the other 23andme v5. Using a different kit made a slight difference to my results and I found that distances were a little bigger with the 23andme kit. But there wasn’t a massive difference and both results were clearly from the same person.

    I’ve heard that 23andme v5 data isn’t the best to upload, but I don’t know how true this is as I can’t find a source for that information.

    Here are my distances for the 23andme kit:

    Distance to: 23andme_scaled
    0.02166400 Icelandic
    0.02185645 Scottish
    0.02194350 Norwegian
    0.02196493 Irish
    0.02213178 Danish
    0.02226499 Orcadian
    0.02268846 Dutch
    0.02349366 English
    Last edited by lana6765; 02-07-2021 at 10:52 PM.
    23andme V5.9: 97.3% British and Irish, 2.3% Spanish and Portuguese, 0.2% Broadly Southern European, 0.2% Unassigned
    AncestryDNA 2020: 50% England & Northwestern Europe, 35% Ireland, 15% Scotland
    Paper trail to 1850s: County Mayo 25%, Essex 25%, London 15.625%, Hampshire/Southampton 12.5%, Lancashire/Liverpool 9.375%, Devon 6.25%, Suffolk 3.125%, County Cavan 3.125%, Gibraltar (military service)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    I have two sets of coordinates: one AncestryDNA and the other 23andme v5. Using a different kit made a slight difference to my results and I found that distances were a little bigger with the 23andme kit. But there wasn’t a massive difference and both results were clearly from the same person.

    I’ve heard that 23andme v5 data isn’t the best to upload, but I don’t know how true this is as I can’t find a source for that information.

    Here are my distances for the 23andme kit:

    Distance to: 23andme_scaled
    0.02166400 Icelandic
    0.02185645 Scottish
    0.02194350 Norwegian
    0.02196493 Irish
    0.02213178 Danish
    0.02226499 Orcadian
    0.02268846 Dutch
    0.02349366 English
    Thanks for your response. Maybe I'll try the Ancestry test as well. Then I can check which one gives me smaller distances haha!

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    Thank you so much, everyone.

    My Scandinavian ancestry mainly comes from Hallingdal, Valdres with some connection to Vestfold and Dalsland (Sweden).

    I might decide to try another test as well.
    Espen

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