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    Any explanation for the presence of epicanthic folds among berbers ?

    Some kind of convergent evolution ? A link with iberomaurusians ? A khoisan-like type of ancestor ?

    For example L. C. Briggs talks about some mesolithic skulls having "bosopoid" traits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boskop_Man) but I don't know if his works are viewed as "outdated" by now :

    Fragments of only three individuals are of Paleolithic (Pleistocene) age. The Rabat find from the Atlantic coast and the Tangier specimens (two individuals), described by Senyurek, suggest Neanderthal-like people. [...] All the Mesolithic skulls are strictly modern (sapiens) in type and represent a very mixed population judging from the variability. For comparative series he uses published data from Afalou, Guanches, Canary Islands, Ancient Greeks, Early Kentucky and the Pecos Pueblo Indians. Some critics may not approve of these rwmparisons and Briggs’ methodology. He used them partly from necessity of finding adequate data similar in time, space and/or ecological limits.
    Most of this report (55 pages) is devoted to the thorough description of 56 skulls of Mesolithic age which Rriggs has classified into 4 morphological types. Type A, called ‘ ‘Palaemediterranean, ” are perhaps the earliest Northwest African sapiens human beings - a long headed strain equivalent to Combe Capelle. Type B, named “African Mediterranean,” possibly of Near East origin, appears to have some “Bosopoid” traits. Type C, called “African Alpine,” is a brachycephalic group. Type D is a mixture which occurred locally between the “African Mediterranean’’ and “ Alpines. ’’ This is a curiously varying group and is perhaps most like the Hotu People of northern Iran. The Neolithic remains consist of only 7 individuals, 5 typed as a northern series and said to be the result of a stabilized mixed-group containing some Negro admixture. The remaining two are a southern negroid type resembling the “Hamitic” strain presently found in the modern Fulah, an old (5,000 years) racial type originating in East Africa.
    The stone age races of Northwest Africa by L. Cabot Briggs,1955


    Here some examples of berbers with such traits :







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    People in the first, second and fifth picture could easily pass in SE/E Asia imo. Not sure what is going on. Usually Europeans with these folds still look European. Why is it different for Berbers in these pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davit View Post
    People in the first, second and fifth picture could easily pass in SE/E Asia imo. Not sure what is going on. Usually Europeans with these folds still look European. Why is it different for Berbers in these pics?
    probably skin pigmentation and hair color more similar to what can be found in Asia but I might be wrong

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    I've noticed this phenomenon and an ex told me that it was common in the south [of Morocco] but got no idea if that's true or not. It's pretty cool imo , the diversity we express as humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaYamamoto View Post
    I've noticed this phenomenon and an ex told me that it was common in the south [of Morocco] but got no idea if that's true or not. It's pretty cool imo , the diversity we express as humans.
    C.Coon said that chleuh in south morocco have a 12 % incidence of epicanthic fold. We also know that these people tend to score the highest amount of IBM ancestry in all North Africa so maybe there is a link with those paleolithic populations.

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    Indochina: When 85 Moroccan deserters were repatriated from Vietnam to Morocco

    ...Suite : https://www.yabiladi.com/articles/de...rapatries.html

    "Some got married to Vietnamese women, had children. 65 Vietnamese women decided to come to Morocco with their husbands and children."

    and a youtube video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeFRsV-IVTY
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    These people seem influenced by the Asiatic race somehow.
    Doesn't seem isolate like Khoisan people.

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