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    Quote Originally Posted by anglesqueville View Post
    Here comes JMcB:
    Attachment 43734

    JMcB's individual MDS, and the global map updated:
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    Thank you Angles!

    I’ve enjoyed following what you’re doing here and it’s nice to be in the mix. If I’m reading it correctly, it looks just as I would have suspected. GBR shifted towards the Continent.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Thank you Angles!

    I’ve enjoyed following what you’re doing here and it’s nice to be in the mix. If I’m reading it correctly, it looks just as I would have suspected. GBR shifted towards the Continent.
    Yes, exactly. The squared region where you're located is mostly full of people from UK (likely English), Dieppe, CEU, and some Bretons (including Kerbouet). Clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anglesqueville View Post
    Linguistic problem, or my post was confusing. The Hungarian woman is coded "Od_Hung_rel", she is inside the Hungarian cluster, as expected. The three individuals coded "sar" are from "Val de Saire" (SARnes in old Nordic language), Cotentin peninsula, NW Normandy.
    What your excersition already delivers IMO is that Val de Saire has the name "La Côte des Vikings" still rightfully.
    And that those Vikings and modern Norwegians, Orcadians, Icelanders and North Dutch all fall into a North Sea cline. It confirms what the most of us have in mind I guess. Imo not unimportant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    What your excersition already delivers IMO is that Val de Saire has the name "La Côte des Vikings" still rightfully.
    And that those Vikings and modern Norwegians, Orcadians, Icelanders and North Dutch all fall into a North Sea cline. It confirms what the most of us have in mind I guess. Imo not unimportant!
    Just a little recall: the three "Sarnes" are from the same nuclear family, therefore they obviously don't constitute a scientific sample. But on another hand, they didn't fall from Mars! I completely agree with your conclusion.
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    Been following this thread for a while and I'll happily contribute with my data as well, if it's of any interest. From what I know the Norwegians in the Reich HO-dataset are from Bergen(?), and in the G25 PCA's I plot a bit more "eastern" than them, so it would be interesting to see if that pattern is reproduced with this approach. I don't really have a DNA.land-account though, do I still need it or do you have an imputation-pipeline up and running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bygdedweller View Post
    Been following this thread for a while and I'll happily contribute with my data as well, if it's of any interest. From what I know the Norwegians in the Reich HO-dataset are from Bergen(?), and in the G25 PCA's I plot a bit more "eastern" than them, so it would be interesting to see if that pattern is reproduced with this approach. I don't really have a DNA.land-account though, do I still need it or do you have an imputation-pipeline up and running?
    I would be no surprise if they are from West-Norway from what I have seen West-Norway is especially affiliated with the North Sea cline.
    Nevertheless I'm curious were an East-Norwegian would end (more towards Sweden?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bygdedweller View Post
    Been following this thread for a while and I'll happily contribute with my data as well, if it's of any interest. From what I know the Norwegians in the Reich HO-dataset are from Bergen(?), and in the G25 PCA's I plot a bit more "eastern" than them, so it would be interesting to see if that pattern is reproduced with this approach. I don't really have a DNA.land-account though, do I still need it or do you have an imputation-pipeline up and running?
    Yes, I now impute the data myself. There's some work, but we have no choice because dna.land seems to be frozen (servers or covid, don't know). Which company do your data come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    I would be no surprise if they are from West-Norway from what I have seen West-Norway is especially affiliated with the North Sea cline.
    Nevertheless I'm curious were an East-Norwegian would end (more towards Sweden?).
    I agree, it explains the very close affinity towards the other North Sea-populations. The annotations-file says that's the locality of the samples, so whether or not all of them are 100% western Norwegian in ancestry it is clearly the major component of their ancestry. Eastern Norwegians look more or less like Swedes indeed, but also sharing a great deal of overlap with continental Germanics and Icelanders. I might be a bit extreme though, because most of my ancestry is from the Southeast, near the border to Sweden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anglesqueville View Post
    Yes, I now impute the data myself. There's some work, but we have no choice because dna.land seems to be frozen (servers or covid, don't know). Which company do your data come from?
    I see. I have data from both AncestryDNA and 23andme, so whichever your prefer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bygdedweller View Post
    I see. I have data from both AncestryDNA and 23andme, so whichever your prefer
    I have no experience with AncestryDNA, send me your 23andme. You can send me a link by PM with wetransfer. If you need my personal email, send me first a PM.
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