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    European/Middle Eastern ancestry, REALLY need help interpreting autosomal DNA tests

    Hey! Iíve been trying to do some analysis on my DNA with GedMatch, but Iím having trouble interpreting the results using the admixture tool.

    For context, I know that my momís ancestors come from the British Isles, Alsace-Lorraine, Italy, and Eastern Europe (the first two constitute a larger portion though). The thing is, I donít know as much about my dadís side, and I havenít found any close matches that could be related to his side of the family. What I know for sure: that side of the family speaks Persian, considers themselves Persian, and is from southwestern Iran.

    However, with the majority of ancestry tests Iíve taken, other ethnicities located in the MENA region also appear, including significant percentages of Levantine, as well as smaller percentages of Arab and Yemenite Jewish. I know that ancestry admixture tests are educated guesses and have to be taken with a grain of salt, but could anyone help me interpret the results specifically on my dadís side? Since itís difficult to find matches, one of the only ways I can piece together an understanding of my fatherís ancestry is through these analyses, so any insight on interpreting these tests is really appreciated, especially considering my beginner-status with genealogy.

    Iím including the results for the GedMatch tests with the closest to zero z-scores ó Dodecad K7b and World 9, plus HarappaWorld ó as well as the results of my first DNA test with MyHeritage and the results I got from uploading my data to Living DNA and Family Tree DNA. (Here is a link to screenshots of those results: https://imgur.com/a/ozRPecC)

    I noticed that very trace instances of Yemenite Jewish ancestry were identified by FTDNA, but that Dodecad K7b identified Yemenite Jewish ancestry within nearly all of the four-population groupings listed. All of these groupings were also associated with z-scores of <1 as well as the Dodecad World9 test, which identified Sephardic Jewish ancestry in several of the 4-population groupings, all of which had z-scores of <1 as well. (A low z-score indicates the closest distance to your DNA right?) Iím wondering if Iranians who didnít know previously of any Jewish ancestry and have taken these tests have found a significant presence of Yemenite or Sephardic Jewish heritage as well? Is seeing Levantine or Balochi origins common? It's possible that there could be Jewish ancestry on my dadís side as well, but we just don't know. As far as I know on my momís side, there isnít any Jewish ancestry.

    Any insight is really appreciated!

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    Dodecad K7b 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    Atlantic_Baltic: 42.29
    West_Asian: 28.29
    Southern: 20.98
    South_Asian: 7.24
    African: 1.15

    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found. 7 components mode.

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:

    1 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 14.625876
    2 Greek_Dodecad @ 15.299839
    3 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 15.759023
    4 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.830201
    5 Romanians_Behar @ 16.025341
    6 Tuscan_HGDP @ 16.396484
    7 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.627274
    8 TSI30_Metspalu @ 17.704720
    9 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 19.643293
    10 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.488592
    11 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.210056
    12 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 21.293232
    13 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 21.634384
    14 North_Italian_HGDP @ 22.802731
    15 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 27.746140
    16 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 28.795414
    17 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 29.011086
    18 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 29.762405
    19 Murcia_1000Genomes @ 29.859592
    20 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 29.921808

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% British_Isles_Dodecad +50% Iranians_Behar @ 4.007484

    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% Argyll_1000Genomes +25% Balochi_HGDP +25% Bedouin_HGDP @ 1.530477

    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 Brahui_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.654102
    2 Brahui_HGDP + Irish_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.719100
    3 Brahui_HGDP + British_Isles_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.722028
    4 Balochi_HGDP + CEU30_1000Genomes + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.765373
    5 Brahui_HGDP + British_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.766577
    6 Brahui_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.767848
    7 Argyll_1000Genomes + Brahui_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.797897
    8 Balochi_HGDP + Dutch_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.865118
    9 Balochi_HGDP + Lebanese_Behar + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Polish_Dodecad @ 0.887566
    10 Balochi_HGDP + Irish_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.905280
    11 Balochi_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.916398
    12 Brahui_HGDP + CEU30_1000Genomes + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.916538
    13 Argyll_1000Genomes + Balochi_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.921004
    14 Balochi_HGDP + British_Isles_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.928307
    15 Brahui_HGDP + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.939469
    16 Belorussian_Behar + Brahui_HGDP + Lebanese_Behar + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 0.940194
    17 Balochi_HGDP + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.949567
    18 Brahui_HGDP + English_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.951767
    19 Argyll_1000Genomes + Brahui_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar + Saudis_Behar @ 0.959316
    20 Balochi_HGDP + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 0.961587

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    World9 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    Atlantic_Baltic: 41.51
    Caucasus_Gedrosia: 28.15
    Southern: 21.53
    South_Asian: 7.15
    African: 1.17

    Finished reading population data. 250 populations found. 9 components mode.

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:

    1 Romanians_Behar @ 12.973016
    2 Greek_Dodecad @ 14.633751
    3 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.009335
    4 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 15.335927
    5 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.876667
    6 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 16.456430
    7 Tuscan_HGDP @ 17.012999
    8 TSI30_Metspalu @ 17.461426
    9 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 18.223814
    10 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 19.001728
    11 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 19.190033
    12 S_Italian_Dodecad @ 19.334263
    13 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 19.876534
    14 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 22.221508
    15 North_Italian_HGDP @ 23.162680
    16 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 25.902588
    17 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 26.470539
    18 Turkish_Dodecad @ 26.480148
    19 Brazilian_Dodecad @ 27.503674
    20 Baleares_1000 Genomes @ 28.195267

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% British_Isles_Dodecad +50% Iranians_Behar @ 3.518006

    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% C_Italian_Dodecad +25% Balochi_HGDP +25% Argyll_1000 Genomes @ 0.950789

    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 C_Italian_Dodecad + Brahui_HGDP + French_HGDP + Romanians_Behar @ 0.556627
    2 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Murcia_1000 Genomes @ 0.672661
    3 French_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Brahui_HGDP + Romanians_Behar @ 0.735678
    4 Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanians + Murcia_1000 Genomes @ 0.771595
    5 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + TSI30_Metspalu + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 0.772835
    6 Balochi_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Belorussian_Behar + Pais_Vasco_1000 Genomes @ 0.773036
    7 Polish_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + TSI30_Metspalu @ 0.783628
    8 Sicilian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + TSI30_Metspalu + Belorussian_Behar @ 0.806569
    9 Polish_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Cataluna_1000 Genomes @ 0.819054
    10 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Cantabria_1000 Genomes @ 0.821421
    11 Swedish_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP @ 0.823419
    12 Balochi_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + French_Basque + Belorussian_Behar @ 0.843939
    13 French_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + CEU30_1000Genomes + Cypriots_Behar @ 0.848688
    14 Swedish_Dodecad + S_Italian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Tuscan_HGDP @ 0.849203
    15 N_Italian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Belorussian_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 0.853574
    16 Balochi_HGDP + Belorussian_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Cataluna_1000 Genomes @ 0.855183
    17 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Andalucia_1000 Genomes @ 0.860886
    18 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Baleares_1000 Genomes @ 0.864226
    19 Sicilian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Tuscan_HGDP + Belorussian_Behar @ 0.864625
    20 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Aragon_1000 Genomes @ 0.864893

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    HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    NE-Euro: 27.44
    Caucasian: 20.61
    Mediterranean: 19.41
    Baloch: 16.60
    SW-Asian: 8.96
    S-Indian: 4.64

    Finished reading population data. 377 populations found. 16 components mode.

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:

    1 romanian-a_behar @ 15.939356
    2 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 17.275614
    3 serbian_harappa @ 19.127480
    4 tuscan_1000genomes @ 19.775240
    5 tuscan_hgdp @ 19.820452
    6 tuscan_hapmap @ 20.081743
    7 ashkenazi_harappa @ 20.639297
    8 italian_hgdp @ 22.042849
    9 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 22.490477
    10 romanian-b_behar @ 23.437105
    11 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 24.597670
    12 hungarian_behar @ 25.921144
    13 tajik_yunusbayev @ 27.331060
    14 slovenian_xing @ 27.439108
    15 french_hgdp @ 27.628269
    16 morocco-jew_behar @ 28.690777
    17 sephardic-jew_behar @ 28.712584
    18 stalskoe_xing @ 28.802933
    19 turkmen_yunusbayev @ 28.817411
    20 spaniard_behar @ 29.390030

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% iranian_behar +50% utahn-white_1000genomes @ 4.033646

    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% hungarian_behar +25% makrani_hgdp +25% sephardic-jew_behar @ 2.924463

    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 french_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + n-european_xing + samaritian_behar @ 1.982285
    2 balochi_hgdp + italian_hgdp + morocco-jew_behar + russian_behar @ 2.034750
    3 balochi_hgdp + italian_hgdp + russian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar @ 2.038030
    4 french_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + samaritian_behar + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.066397
    5 balochi_hgdp + belorussian_behar + italian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar @ 2.070359
    6 balochi_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + tuscan_1000genomes @ 2.135324
    7 balochi_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 2.136723
    8 balochi_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 2.177019
    9 balochi_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 2.179711
    10 balochi_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 2.184094
    11 balochi_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_1000genomes @ 2.206536
    12 ashkenazi_harappa + balochi_hgdp + italian_hgdp + ukranian_yunusbayev @ 2.235037
    13 french_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar + n-european_xing + pashtun_harappa @ 2.245272
    14 ashkenazi_harappa + balochi_hgdp + belorussian_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 2.259834
    15 ashkenazy-jew_behar + balochi_hgdp + italian_hgdp + russian_behar @ 2.280638
    16 ashkenazy-jew_behar + balochi_hgdp + belorussian_behar + italian_hgdp @ 2.282681
    17 ashkenazi_harappa + balochi_hgdp + belorussian_behar + tuscan_1000genomes @ 2.299476
    18 french_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar + pashtun_harappa + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.300905
    19 british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + kalash_hgdp + samaritian_behar @ 2.313198
    20 ashkenazi_harappa + balochi_hgdp + belorussian_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 2.319839

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    has your mom a gedmatch number ? has she been tested ?

    your dad could be an iranian bandari from south iran maybe

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