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    Quote Originally Posted by Squad View Post
    It's because PF2431 accounts for almost all L19 that are not M81. It doesn't mean that this isolated kenyan cluster can't be L19(xM81, xPF2431)
    Yes but there is a high chance that it's E-PF2431 , like in the case of sample ERS2065737
    37.2 Iberomaurusian
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    Paternal Haplogroup == Hidden Content == YF80557

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imesmouden View Post
    Yes but there is a high chance that it's E-PF2431 , like in the case of sample ERS2065737
    The haplotype is clearly far from PF2431, unless PF2431 is an early SNP in the trail of SNPs that led to the TMRCA of the subclade, in which case it would significantly increase the age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capsian View Post
    north africa
    alright

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    Quote Originally Posted by capsian View Post
    sample frpm kenya it s Negative E-M81 and positive E-V257 * (aka E-PF2431)
    Which ethnic group does he belong too? That lineage was probably brought recently by a Berber immigrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Which ethnic group does he belong too? That lineage was probably brought recently by a Berber immigrant
    ethnic group Borana

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Which ethnic group does he belong too? That lineage was probably brought recently by a Berber immigrant
    Bro the haplotype is very unique I've never seen anything like it in more than thousands and thousands of samples from North Africa and other regions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squad View Post
    Bro the haplotype is very unique I've never seen anything like it in more than thousands and thousands of samples from North Africa and other regions
    How do you think it got there then? The proto-Cushites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    How do you think it got there then? The proto-Cushites?
    Either from Egypt most likely with the proto-kushites or M35 originated in the Horn. Thr sample has to be further analyzed. It may push back the TMRCA of either M81, PF2431 or even L19 as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squad View Post
    Either from Egypt most likely with the proto-kushites or M35 originated in the Horn. Thr sample has to be further analyzed. It may push back the TMRCA of either M81, PF2431 or even L19 as a whole.
    The Borana could be an assimilated Ajuuraan Somali male.The Ajuuraan controlled Southern Somalia which was very cosmopolitan.I'm leaning toward a medieval Maghrebi ancestor for this Borana individual since there doesn't seem to be any evidence that this lineage arrived with the proto-cushites

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    The Borana could be an assimilated Ajuuraan Somali male.The Ajuuraan controlled Southern Somalia which was very cosmopolitan.I'm leaning toward a medieval Maghrebi ancestor for this Borana individual since there doesn't seem to be any evidence that this lineage arrived with the proto-cushites
    Fact is, this is a very unique haplotype, which would probably indicate that it's a local variant. A medieval maghrebi origin is highly unlikely, it is very deviant with no other sample in the world that belongs to this cluster. It is probably an endemic but very rare horner haplogroup.

    And what's up with the somali M81 guy in the ftDNA project, any news haha?

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